Topic : 01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Created on : Saturday, September 29, 2007, 09:23:47 am
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How well do you think you know your neighbors, your friends and even your child's teacher? It is estimated that four to eight million people in North America are swinging in the suburbs -- mostly middle-class folks from all walks of life. Dr. Phil gives you a closer look at who these couples are who engage in sex with other twosomes. First up, Nita and Walter have been swinging for the last 12 years. They say they are happy in the lifestyle, so why does it cause tension in their relationship? Then, Brent says he has a strong yearning for he and his wife, Renee, to participate in a threesome. Renee says the idea disgusts her, but worries that if she refuses to join in, Brent will leave her. They fight constantly, often dragging their 17-year-old son into the middle of their chaos. Brent says he thinks about having threesomes every other day, but says that his desire is normal. What does Dr. Phil think? And, Dr. Phil viewers weigh in and share their thoughts about the swinging lifestyle. Join the discussion.

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January 30, 2008, 2:31 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

Quote From: ramair

Renee is afraid, if she doesn't cave into Brent's demands that she join him in a threesome, he'll leave her. Is hanging onto that sicko pervert worth engaging in something that so obviously digusts her? She ought to stand her ground. If  Brent leaves Renee, he'll be doing her a favor. She ought to do herself the favor. By throwing that rotten fish back into the cess-pool.

 

 

He will be leaving her even if she does say yes... She will be miserable and subconsciously do things to make the marriage terrible at no fault of her own.

 

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January 30, 2008, 2:48 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

swingers are addicted to sex, it is as simple as that.  My friend is 26 now, but from age 5 to 11, she was molested and druged by her father.  She is now a swinger, and bi-sexual, and think she likes it.  Not, she kicks holes in walls on a weekly basic.  God I wish I could help her see THE LIGHT! 

 
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January 30, 2008, 2:49 pm PST

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This situation happened to unfold itself in our "family". Thankfully she divorced herself from the lying, cheating, sick man and let him spiral out of control by himself. But comes the point of all the chaos being brought into the home amongst the children. How do you explain the lifestyle to the children and also justify the expenses taken away from the family. It seems so selfish when you are a parent to put someone else through this, when they didn't ask for this shame of your lifestyle choices. Just how deep persay is your fixation with this "lifestyle" willing to go? Online advertising, group chat rooms, random dates out of personal ads... are you willing to be busted by an undercover agent? This fool did and that is how his life became aparent to his new bride/new mother and family who never saw the signs of his addictions. Is this really a personality disorder or are you just fulfulling some deeper need within your self?

I mean no disrespect but that was one man and the "lifestyle" didn't make him the jerk... He was already that way before hand.  I don't think that swinging is a personality disorder. 

 

People need to stop putting blame on events or things in life and take responsibility for their own actions.

 

What your ex brother in law did was wrong but one can't blame it on other people.

 

There are men that beat their wives.. who do you blame?

 

There are men that gamble their life savings away... who do you blame?

 

There are men that love to have sex with other men... who do you blame? Is this a fault? lol I don't think so but a lot of other close minded people probably do.

 

You should be looking at his character instead of what his sexual preferences were. It's not the fault of the lifestyle it's the man himself.

 
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January 30, 2008, 2:56 pm PST

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I am sure they don't have problems.  I am not sure why you assume they do.  Do you know them?
I'm not assuming they do have problems, just pointing out that you shouldn't assume they don't have problems, every couple has there problems, and since you didn't know about them being swingers how can you know thy have the perfect marriage?
 
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January 30, 2008, 3:04 pm PST

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Last Saturday night my wife and I went to dinner with another couple in the lifestyle. We ate, and danced and then went to their house. He is a retired, decorated veteran who was in the US Air Force for 25 years and earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star.

 

While the ladies were playing with each other he and I shot some pool and talked.

 

When he was 20 he did a year in Viet Nam as a sniper sitting at the edge of air bases making sure no unfriendly folks snuck onto the air base. He killed about 100 enemy soldiers and was told by his Chaplin that God would forgive him because he was under orders to kill by the President of these United States.

 

He laughed long and hard when I told him that some people on the Dr Phil board thought he and I  would be going to Hell for having sex with each others wife.

 

He figures he has a lot more to important issues to talk to God about.

 

So the question is was the Chaplin wrong about breaking the *not kill* commandment and still be able to get God to forgive? Or will he be forgiven for the killings and then sent to Hell for having consensual sex with my 54 year old wife, he is 58

All I have to say is..............

 

 

GOD LOVE ya.... and Amen...

 

 

There couldn't have been a more real life story to put all  this into perspective . Oh "Thank you SO MUCH for saving our butts by going to war and killing all those folks so we could live free and safe but, by God, keep your hands off your friends wife even if they both say please take her"

 

 

 

 

 
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January 30, 2008, 3:29 pm PST

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My life everyone is talking about.

 

First and foremost.... I'm a human with feelings! I DO believe in God! I pray just like the rest of the God fearing AMERICA... I'm a mother of 5 and a grandmother of 4. A daughter of a disabled mother whom I take care of , a sister, a wife, a daughter -in- law, and so on.

 

I don't shout it from the roof tops to the world on a daily basis but, since it's the Hot Topic of the day here it is.... I'm a swinger! I just feel compelled to defend my cohorts.

 

 Four years ago my husband and I wanted to try something new. We were NOT having problems. We did NOT either one feel the need for "fresh meat". We did NOT and still do NOT want a divorce and it does NOT effect either one of us in ANY negative way. We are NOT insecure in our relationship. We are NOT unhappy with ourselves nor do we have a poor self esteem. We LOVE each other more each new day that we are living. Not because swinging brought us closer or because of any other reason other than we are truly IN LOVE with each other more and more each day. We came to the decision together to look after talking about fantasies like most American couples. The difference is,  that we followed through with them and others may not have. They simply remain a fantasy to them and not us.

 

 We did not tell anyone for a long time about what we liked to do behind PRIVATE doors. When the decision was made to talk with someone about it, this is what happened. One of my husband's sisters told our youngest daughter (15 at the time) and my husband's mother. It caused a huge fight and his entire family blamed me as if I was the one who initiated it. His Mother spouted the Bible and God in my face as if I am an evil doer of the devil. This is a woman that didn't step a foot in a church until a few years ago and raised her children from the other end of a bar phone. (cast the first stone?) All the same, it put me into a deep depression and I lost a few weeks of work because of what they said and did to me. Let alone the fact that they unleashed our " private sex lifestyle" to our young impressionable daughter. Does anyone in their right mind believe we want those visions and thoughts in her head? I still can't understand why anyone would tell our child this. ....

 

Moving on.....

 

Because my town is so small, I felt compelled to talk with my own Mother about my "lifestyle" choices before someone esle did. My father had recently passed away prior to my confession so it was just my mother. My beautiful open minded Mother... what a wonderful open armed answer she gave me ....... She called me by my name and said "If this is what you do, you are happy, and you love your husband then I support you" She hadn't one mean word to say to me. She was behind me and held me in her arms while I cried to her about the way my in-laws were treating me.

 

The news hit "the family" two years ago. We have five children ages 23,21,18,17, & 12. All but the 12 year old know. Did we tell them? We had to after my husbands family knew. His family spreads all over the State of Ohio and they all knew with in 24 hours so we had to tell them to "protect" them... Did we want them involved in our sex life? NO but we had no choice to tell them after we were "out of the closet" with hubby's family ..... How do they feel about us? They love us and support us no matter what we do. Must have raised them right  !

 

Since the "coming out party" just about everyone we know really well knows we are swingers. The only ones that don't know are my co-workers. I work for the local Hospital and my husband works for one of the most elite colleges here in Ohio. His co-workers know and love the idea. I'd simply die if my co-workers and boss knew. Why? Because they are all very Conservative and close minded people. I have enough issues, drama, chaos in my life to add this to the mix.

 

This seems to be new to most people but it's actually been around for centuries. I have to remind all those Baby boomer's of the KEY PARTIES!!!!!

 

 

And to all the minorities in the world.. I do feel a miniature amount of your pain.. If it's your skin color, religion, race, sexual preference that keeps you locked out of society then God be with you all. I've had a small taste of discrimination and it's a terrible feeling!

 

Sincerely,

open minded

 

 
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January 30, 2008, 3:34 pm PST

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Quote From: farmgirl7

swingers are addicted to sex, it is as simple as that.  My friend is 26 now, but from age 5 to 11, she was molested and druged by her father.  She is now a swinger, and bi-sexual, and think she likes it.  Not, she kicks holes in walls on a weekly basic.  God I wish I could help her see THE LIGHT! 

I'm a swinger and I'm not addicted... I wish that were the case, maybe I'd get sex more than a few times a month.... lol Sorry about your friend.

 
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January 30, 2008, 4:05 pm PST

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Quote From: farmgirl7

swingers are addicted to sex, it is as simple as that.  My friend is 26 now, but from age 5 to 11, she was molested and druged by her father.  She is now a swinger, and bi-sexual, and think she likes it.  Not, she kicks holes in walls on a weekly basic.  God I wish I could help her see THE LIGHT! 

I'm sure that as her friend it is painful for you to see you friend in pain.  I'm curious though, when you try to reach out to her and talk to her, how do you approach it?  I'm not criticizing.  Her being in the lifestype may or may not have anything to do with her past.  I say that because I've been there.  Not the same situation as her but I too was a victim of child sexual abuse by multiple members of my family.  I'm sure that alot of people would automatically say that explains why I am in the lifestyle.  It did but didn't have an impact on my decision.  It took me years to find and gain my self esteem.  That was something I did long before I chose to go into the lifestyle.  Prior to my finding a way to heal, there is no way I could have done this.  I actually enjoy sex now and yes I do enjoy sex with multiple people at one time, including women.  And incase anyone is thinking this, I will go ahead and clear something up, my husband did not talk me into going into the lifestyle.  I was the one that brought the subject up.  Alot of people on here have voiced an opinion that they basically thought that swingers were condemed to Hell and when I die, you maybe right but I can tell you one thing, I have already seen Hell, for 14 years out of the first 17 years of my life!  Sorry didn't mean to go on a tirate but if you want to help your friend, and if she is having outbursts like that then it sounds like she needs help, talk to her and listen to her but not about swinging, about what's going on inside her and be supportive not critical.
 
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January 30, 2008, 6:12 pm PST

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People who swing have ultra low self esteem and turn to activities that lower that esteem even more.

My wife and I have been in the "lifestyle" for 6 years now and we love each other very much and neither of us has a problem with the hieght of our self esteem and we have met many people in the lifestyle some we had sex with others we just became friends as there was no attraction sexually but they are good people.Yes there are people in the lifestyle who use swinging to try and repair a relationship or other reasons and those are the ones who don't enjoy it for what it is,and thats  people freely doing what they enjoy or even fulfilling a fantasy.Swingers are some of the nicest people you can know.

 
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January 30, 2008, 6:13 pm PST

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OMG I just finished watching the show on this topic. I DVR them. Nita and Walter gosh you look like you might have AIDS or some other STD. Are you people not afraid of this. I divorced due to his inability to be faithful an then ran to the Doctor to see if I had any diseases myself. Thank God I don't. God Help you all. Not my kinda life style. I like Dr. Phil said would rather be HEALTHY an alone then be sick with my X-Husband. IF I were you two I would get some testing Nita & Walter you do not look healthy, Get yourselves checked medical wise. You do not look good.
 

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