Topic : 06/20 Frankie and Gwen

oh my god you hit the nail right on the head. i was going to reply to that message because it was meant for me but i am glad you broke it down.  she 's talking about it is a pride thing. we women need to be empowered and have a little dignity and pride for ourselves. when we do not respect ourselves, our men, our children,even friends and family will not respect us. i can talk because  i have been there several times. you know at the age of 39 how i wish i had known what i know now. things would have been different. staying for the kids does more harm than good. you need not be in the same house to be good parents to your kids. some people divorce their spouse and children. the poor kids never or very rarly see dad or mom on a regular basis and that is sad. again she should let that man go. he wants out. SHE CANNOT MAKE HIM LOVE HER. people need to understand that. your right, the real divorce is when emotions fade or when he is she starts a new  life with someone else. back in the day there were no marriage "papers". i heard that in some places in the middle east all a man has to say is "i divorce you" 3 times to your face and the marriage is over. now isn't that special??

Allow me to elaborate. I say you make Frankie appear as a monster for the fact that you have obviously had time on YOUR hand to read these messages and reading these people's ideas about who you are, what you are (Hispanic not white) and even comparing Frankie to OJ. Don't you think that is appalling? Or do you not care? All you do is justify how you pulled you wicked scream over a young mans eyes. Gwen, just because Frankie and America know your faults and bad decision-making, does not mean your sorry excuses are right. When you live in an unrealistic world of your own (selfish) you can never become a real woman, wife and mother. You need to find out truly who you are and Frankie as well. We all do things in our lives that are not all favorable to ourselves and the ones we love. I am not perfect and you are not perfect, OK Gwen! Why did you not go to family (not your mom) or someone who you can truly trust with a non-bias opinion to help you? I say you because as I read your message this morning, I WAS STILL PISSED! But as I started writing this, all I now see is a person who needs to make some major changes for the good. With my experience and knowing what I know, what you are doing will only lead to more hurt sorrow, more pain and ever death of ones heart and soul. How do you expect to get through this? You meaning- you, Frankie and the kids? This is not the way to be Gwen! Appreciate the people who love you and look before you leap in the future.

Okay, so lemme just say how this relationship has train wreck written all over it.  It's one thing to occassionally argue with your significant other, but when it's every other day..... that's not only stressful, but extremely toxic.  Neither Gwen or Frankie seem like bad people.  They are just bad for each other.  There's only one life to live... try to make the best out of it. 

Either way, when Frankie decides to finally part with Gwen... gimme a holla.... lol ;)  Muaz!!

 

You go on national television you are exposed to being judged.  I really don't understand why he stayed with you.   You are a embrassement to women across america.  Sleeping with various men and claming not to know who the father was, what kind of role model are you?  You put the burden of your sleeping around on your husband and have the nerve to be anger because he doesn't want to marry you again.  Do you deserve to be treated with respect?  Why don't you get child support for the REAL father's of your childern to help out.

 

I wish you some clarity, I know you're young but you must wake up and realize you caused the drama.  Don't point the finger at him turn it around and point it at you.

Well It's been awhile since the show aired and there a lot of people who still me from the show and they all say hey stupid,Stupid !! Like it’s funny, but I take it all in stride. I have read all of the comments made on here and have really taken a step back and let it sink in.

 First I would like to say that I never thought Gwen was stupid, she did a lot of stupid things. I really called her those names because she hurt me a lot and I felt in some sick why by calling her those names it would hurt her back the way I was hurting. I never cheated on Gwen except for that one time after I knew about Aidan and I told her I was sorry and that I regretted it, but something’s are harder to get over then we think.

   Second, I would like to say that no one will ever probably read this since it’s been so long, but I want to get it out. I say how Gwen got so upset and started writing on here and I thought it was a pretty dumb thing to do, but she did it with out me knowing about it. Any way I just wanted to thank everyone for their support and there comments bad and good. Especially Mrs. Leslie Rivera, that meant a lot to me and thank you for your comments. Something’s in life and we have no control over them, but something’s we do. I can’t say  took the advice of anyone on her or Dr Phil, but to say it was not an eye opener would be lying. I have made to me what I think to be the right decision concerning me and Gwen and hopefully everything will work out with us later in a possible friendship. We all have our faults. God bless everyone and thank you again.

 

Hey Frankie, I still check in every now and then to this board.  I think that's great that you are moving forward and trying to learn from this whole experience.  I hope that Gwen does too.  I hope that you can continue to be a daddy to ALL of your babies!! You are the only daddy they know.  I wish you and your family the best!!

I just want to let you know who proud of you I am. I always think about you and always thought of you as a very important and special young man. YOU have so much life and love in you and I know that from the bottom of my heart. I want you to take this in stride, it will not be easy but know you have so much support from a lot of people who know and love you the most. That includes people across America.

"DO NOT EVER DOUBT YOUR FIRST INSTINCT!"

Eventhough I am not were you are, remember that you are always in my heart. Not everyone out there is evil. Please TAKE THE TIME to search inside yourself and find who YOU are as Frankie, a person. Sometimes in life we all go through hard times. But God made gravity so we can always learn to stand upright. When and if you fall, there is only one way to go and that is .......! I would not be able to give you this advise if I myself never fell on hard times. Pray to God for your strength because that is where IT comes from. I will always be there for you if you need me.

Remember, KEEP YOUR HEAD TO THE SKY!

I love you muchO!

Your Auntie,
Elena aka "Miss $$ Bags" LOL

Oh..it's a straight couple proving how special marriage is...joy.

And Doctor Frankie Gwen Phil. Where did I see this before? Maybe this year or last year. I donot recall that-

but it will be good to see this again. See you on Friday June 20th, 2008. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaander--

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I am 100% agree with the comment.

 

Gwen, What I have learned from my past incident in the same situation that I realize now that I could not change the "PEST" in to a "PET". No matter how much time and effort that I have done and contributed to make it work for the family in the past, It was completely wasted of time and energy. The Pest is always will be the Pest. No one could change others. This selfish person has no moral issue and is always in the move to sabotage and degraded your rights and good intention. The best to deal with it, is learn to forgive yourself and start to look after yourself first. Your commitment is a mother to your kids. And they are your priority as a parent. Adapt the supportive parents' system eg take turn in child minding, car pooling etc. Make it works for you the "WIN WIN" situation. Always think positive on any issue in life. You will feel better and more happier person. You will modelling your kids to be an assertive and happy kids who one day they will understand the good role model of good citizen by contributing their skills that they have learned back into the community. Good Luck.