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Created on : Friday, October 05, 2007, 11:28:17 am
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Dr. Phil takes a look at the unthinkable: making your own child sick to fulfill a disturbing need to get medicine, sympathy and attention. The idea might sound unimaginable, but for people with a psychological disorder called Munchausen by Proxy, it’s irresistible. First, see disturbing footage of parents caught on tape actually causing harm to their children. Then, Dr. Phil looks into the mind of one woman, Tracy, convicted of trying to harm her youngest daughter by constantly keeping her sick. Hear from Tracy's oldest daughter, Heather, who survived years of her mother’s abuse. She says her mom forced her into a wheelchair unnecessarily, took her to almost 400 medical visits, and caused her to spend over 100 days of her life in hospital beds -- needlessly. Most disturbing of all is the secret Heather revealed to police about what her mother buried in their back yard. When Dr. Phil makes a phone call to Tracy in prison, will she acknowledge the problem with her parenting? And could she be preparing to have another child? Hear Dr. Phil’s strong words for this Munchausen mom. Plus, how are Tracy’s children doing now that she is out of their lives? Note: Viewer discretion is advised. Join the discussion.

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October 11, 2007, 7:24 pm PDT

10/11 Munchausen Mom

To all that is asking. Here are some links to news stories.

http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/6-0&fp=470ea9a93a76f687&ei=ONoOR9r3JJWEaqC97MsM&url=http%3A//www.theledger.com/article/20070929/NEWS/709290460/1039&cid=0&sig2=3_bYoY4U322ejps-Qqwjpw
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/4-0&fp=470ea9a93a76f687&ei=ONoOR9r3JJWEaqC97MsM&url=http%3A//www.theledger.com/article/20070930/NEWS/709300454/1039&cid=0&sig2=7hLJpHgjm10exnirefn3Fg
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/2-0&fp=470ea9a93a76f687&ei=ONoOR9r3JJWEaqC97MsM&url=http%3A//www.theledger.com/article/20070928/BREAKING/70928001&cid=0&sig2=9lzumY8tVupRKdXv1RHRMQ
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/1-0&fp=470ea9a93a76f687&ei=ONoOR9r3JJWEaqC97MsM&url=http%3A//www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2563494.ece&cid=0&sig2=EZsbbK0CKYQ2k08-uR0Csg

Also to those who wondered. That baby was NOT buried alive. I don't know why heather says it was now..
 
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October 11, 2007, 7:25 pm PDT

you should never harm a baby

i dont care what anyone says harming a baby in any way is wrong and that persn should be gone for a long long time. im sure they wouldnt do it again if someone harmed them. expecialy if they killed a baby. they dont deserive to have children if they can not treat them right.
 
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October 11, 2007, 7:32 pm PDT

10/11 Munchausen Mom

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 Many years ago I saw a similar program of Mothers with Munchausen and it angered, upset me. How could they do this? This is how I knew the name of this disease when years later I became ill and one Doc because he couldn't figure out what was wrong with me accused me of having munchausen but to myself. I went and looked it up on the internet and I so distraught about the claim. I went and seen a psyc to rule his claim out. I was and am still to this day so angry about it and almost ashamed that he could of thought this or accused this of me. He didn't really even know me but I ws sick. So it brings me up to the topic on hand. I found the show to be quite disturbing on how the author says alot of these people deny they have it . This leaves not a whole lot of room for innonnce or proving someone who falsely accuses u or suggest such a horrible horible almost unimaginable disorder on you that you yourself are appalled. I was schocked to see other people had gone through this too. I'm not sure but who were the other monsters who buried her placenta and why are they not in jail. And why isn't she convicted of murder? And 300 visits is her dtr ill or not? How about the little girl how does the friend who reported her fit ino this circle. Sounds fishy to me and this is why someoned needs to put an end to this and clarify the truth with facts not accusations and heresay. This is a terrible disgusting crimnal insane thing and I know I am normal and it was suggested of me to myself when I never was ever hospitalized or had a surgery before I became so ill. They know and I know now what was wrong but do you think they will admitt to the wrong they committed. I still would like to sue. I do not wish them well. Just thought I speak out for us who really don't have this.

truthbetold  I don't know of a support group but you can start one yourself. U probably would be surprised the amount of people being accused falsely of mental health issues when they are truly sick.  I would start with calling my mental health state providers, tell them of your intent and most public places library etc will provide any slot of time in their office space. Many people will accomdate you just call and ask. Thanks, and Bless you. I hope your family is as well too. who are they
 
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October 11, 2007, 7:38 pm PDT

Where is the Father?

This woman had four children...where on earth was the father in all of this? Was he aware of what was going on? Why didn't he get help? I am curious why there was no mention of him on the show. He is at fault as much as the mother if he just sat by while his children were abused.  

 
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October 11, 2007, 7:45 pm PDT

kids can't speak

I know that some people may ask why the children don't tell the Dr's what there mother is doing. From my experience with my sister-in-law, she won't let her daughter or son  talk to the Dr's.  She does all the talking and  they are told not to talk.  She never leaves them alone with the Dr. and does all the talking for her kids.
 
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October 11, 2007, 7:48 pm PDT

Fathers

I was wondering if anyone (especially the neighbor who commented) knew anything about the father's of these multiple children? Do they all have the same father? Where was he (they?) when all this was happening?
 
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October 11, 2007, 7:52 pm PDT

sis in law

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This could also be a sick attempt to get attention from the children's absent fathers as well. Maybe even put blame on them for not being around during the times of the children's "illnesses!"
When reports were made the house were she was living had a phone call and they wre given 24 hour heads up that the house was being checked. They came and nothing was ever founded. I am the sister in law. The father of these children is my husbands brother. He believs his wife is a wonderfu mom and wife, he is standing by her.
 
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October 11, 2007, 7:59 pm PDT

heads up

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When reports were made the house were she was living had a phone call and they wre given 24 hour heads up that the house was being checked. They came and nothing was ever founded. I am the sister in law. The father of these children is my husbands brother. He believs his wife is a wonderfu mom and wife, he is standing by her.
you are right about the warning. I have child protective services on my sister-in-law and she always has a call letting her know that they are coming. We have even told them that they need to show up unexpected and they never have.
 
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October 11, 2007, 8:02 pm PDT

The fathr is ....

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I don't know if anyone noticed but where were the father or fathers of these children? Not only does their Mother abuse them they seem to have an absent parent as well. Also the sister in law should have reported the crime waaaay before the authorities found out. As a citizen you are not required to provide "proof" of suspected abuse. It is the job of detectives to find the proof, which I believe wouldn't have been that hard.
The fathe is standing by her side. He has fathered two that are born and one she is carring right now. He thinks she is inocent. He loves her.
 
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October 11, 2007, 8:05 pm PDT

Did the girls have legitimate medical issues?

Two specific medical problems (or 'diseases') were mentioned by the mother while she was talking to Dr. Phil. I found it rather surprising that they didn't confirm or deny that the kids actually were diagnosed with medical problems by qualified medical personnel. The mom said that she was taught how to perform some medical procedures, so the children must have been diagnosed and treated for something. If there was a positive test result done, who is to say that the children were just suffering from something that was very hard to diagnose? It happens every day all across North America that kids (and adults!) suffer from disorders that are improperly, or not at all, diagnosed until several hundred dr and hospital visits.

 
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