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Topic : 10/11 Munchausen Mom

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Created on : Friday, October 05, 2007, 11:28:17 am
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Dr. Phil takes a look at the unthinkable: making your own child sick to fulfill a disturbing need to get medicine, sympathy and attention. The idea might sound unimaginable, but for people with a psychological disorder called Munchausen by Proxy, it’s irresistible. First, see disturbing footage of parents caught on tape actually causing harm to their children. Then, Dr. Phil looks into the mind of one woman, Tracy, convicted of trying to harm her youngest daughter by constantly keeping her sick. Hear from Tracy's oldest daughter, Heather, who survived years of her mother’s abuse. She says her mom forced her into a wheelchair unnecessarily, took her to almost 400 medical visits, and caused her to spend over 100 days of her life in hospital beds -- needlessly. Most disturbing of all is the secret Heather revealed to police about what her mother buried in their back yard. When Dr. Phil makes a phone call to Tracy in prison, will she acknowledge the problem with her parenting? And could she be preparing to have another child? Hear Dr. Phil’s strong words for this Munchausen mom. Plus, how are Tracy’s children doing now that she is out of their lives? Note: Viewer discretion is advised. Join the discussion.

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October 11, 2007, 4:59 pm PDT

Thank you to Dr. Phil

Thank you Dr. Phil for bringing this Disease to the forefront and letting us in on the horrors this disease can cause. My heart goes out to those children and I hope that with therapy and love they can make it through this ordeal. I also applaud the families that have taken these children in and shown them what true and honest love is.
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:04 pm PDT

I Feel Your Pain

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This last summer I was falesly accused of exagerating my daughter's symptoms.  They put her in the hospital and a video camera in her room.   She has had mild issues which span across several body systems and has a feeding tube and had stomach  and eye surgery (all of doctors recommendation).  Her symptoms have always been incosistent and after seeing several specialists with no diagosis they decided to investigate me.  After seeing this show I do understand why becuase there are some sick poeple in the world.  But after several weeks in the hospital under investigation, they determined it had nothing to do with me or her home environment but still had no idea why she was so sick before or why right now she is doing do much better.  It's a shame there are people like this mother who make things so much harder for parents like me.  There are things which medicine will not find an answer to but having to go through all the questioig and suspicion was a terrible terrible experience.  I love my child so much ad wat so much for her to have the fullest, most normal life possible.  What is worse is that in the end they did not even apologize for putting our family through all that when they became covinced they were wrong about their suspicions.  I'm not sure I can ever trust any of those doctors ever again.

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I am so sorry you experienced this pain. I know you will never forget, I know I will never forget. My husband also knows my pain as he has his own. I have two older children without incodent for anyones concern. Because my third child fell mysteriously ill..."I" was suspect? I am not aware of a support group or network for families such as ours. If anyone does, please advise. Thank you for sharing your story. I hope your family is well.

 
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October 11, 2007, 5:06 pm PDT

Any caregiver can be Munchy

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Sue, I'm sorry for what happened. Fortunately, you intervened where you thought was necessary.  I'm SO glad Dr. Phil had this subject on his show!  *I often think about this situation regarding a former client, and

wonder if I should alert someone:*

I am a Home health aide, and have seen a man who attends to his wife with M.D.  , EX:  What she has is progressive, and he often said she's beyond where she should be with the disease.  IN FRONT OF HER.I suggested little things that may help her, and he insisted she couldn't do it.  He gave herbal remedies along with her meds.  He spoke like he knew a lot about herbs, I just listened.  I did ask him to remind the Dr. of the herbs, just in case they would not work with her RX meds.

 I have posted a similar question, with the above message title.

I hope Dr. Phil will answer our questions and concerns regarding adults, VS children !!!!!!!

Take Care!  Blessings to you and yours.......               shortT   F,  51 yo.

Muchahusen by proxy has to do with power and attention. Any caregiver including an adult child with an aging parent can use the sickened patient as an ego tool. It is a sick relationship where the sickened relies upon the caregiver for love, support, food..everything. They may call it elder abuse, but the dynamic goes deeper.
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:10 pm PDT

10/11 Munchausen Mom

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My sister and I survived MSBP as children. It is like a childhood in the "twilight zone." For 20 years, our mother has denied what she did to us even in the face of our telling her that we were not sick. Even more painful than the abuse is the reaction of other family members who negate the harm and pressure us to basically stick to the family script.

My mother nearly killed me. I still fear that I'll become incompacitated and my mother will be allowed to visit my hospital room, charm the nursing staff, impress everyone with her competence and commitment as a parent and then kill me.

I would like to find an online support group for survivors of MSBP. I've always wanted to process some of my memories, but am not sure where to find someone who would really understand.

GOD BLESS YOU and 'SIS" IN SURVIVING, and speaking out about MSBP!

   And, for famiIly to suggest that you supress what happened is aweful.  I surely  understand  your concern for your future care if necessary.  Just  Make Sure you have it Written in a 'living will' to exempt your mother of your care!  Take care, and  LIVE, LOVE, LAUGH.......... 

 
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October 11, 2007, 5:24 pm PDT

I don't get it.

I am completley a person that is normally very empathetic, but I just can't put myself in this woman shoes to understand what someone could possibly get out of the morbid abuse of their own child. I pray she never has another child. On the other had....is there another side to this? Do mother ever keep thier child from getting medical treatment for any reason. My mother never believed I was sick or hurt. She never took me to the doctor when I knew I needed it.
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:27 pm PDT

Disgust

I am completely and utterly  disgusted by the people in this episode. I was shocked and sincerely  devistated to see the video footage of this. Being a mother myself, I found that I was emotionally wrecked and actually crying, seeing this. I felt hatred and actually felt the need to hurt one of those people myself. I'm not a violent person but how in the WORLD could someone have a child and then do that to their OWN CHILD. I can deal with child molesters better than I can emotionally deal with seeing that. I guess I can't really express my feeling towards this. But i'm sure that alot of mothers feel the same way. I had to voice my opinion and.. well disgust towards this topic. I love Dr. Phil but I could not handle watching any more of the episode after seeing a mother try to smother her child.. and watching the helpless infant struggle for its life and... okay i'm going to get myself crying again....
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:31 pm PDT

james and jessie and children

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/sptimes/access/1340244381.html?dids=1340244381:1340244381&FMT=FT&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+23%2C+2007&author=LEONORA+LAPETER+ANTON&pub=St.+Petersburg+Times&edition=&startpage=1.A&desc=PAIN+AND+PARENTHOOD 
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:37 pm PDT

Munchausen mom

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   I believe that this woman should be ordered to have a  hysterectomy she should not be able to have anymore children or adopt any she is very ill and i feel that the  courts should order her to have this procedure done
I completely agree.  She is a danger to any child she gets her hands on.  It would be a real let down if the courts allowed her to ever have a child in her possession
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:41 pm PDT

Where's the father(s)?

I don't know if anyone noticed but where were the father or fathers of these children? Not only does their Mother abuse them they seem to have an absent parent as well. Also the sister in law should have reported the crime waaaay before the authorities found out. As a citizen you are not required to provide "proof" of suspected abuse. It is the job of detectives to find the proof, which I believe wouldn't have been that hard.
 
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October 11, 2007, 5:46 pm PDT

HOW?

I would like to know HOW you can prove that a mother has this disorder..for a while I have suspected my boyfriends ex-wife hs munchausens. The internet has alot of information, but there is nothing about what can be done to prove it...His children are allways going to the doctor for one thing or another..she is calling telling him this or that is wrong with the kids..the last time we had the children my daughter (who is 17) was talking to the girls (they are 6 and 7) because they looked sooo skinny..the 7yr old told her that her mother doesnt cook and will not make anything for them and tells them to "get it theirselves". My daughter was very upset and asked if she does this often and was told yes..I would like someone to help me prove this and get help to those children before she does something to hurt them..
 
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