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Created on : Friday, October 05, 2007, 11:29:23 am

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Celebrities like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Richie are known for wearing skimpy clothes, but does that mean midriffs and micro-minis are right for your daughter? A new debate is brewing over whether women should go mild or wild. First up, Brenda Sharman, the national director of Pure Fashion, believes young ladies should dress modestly. She faces off with four women from the audience who say there’s nothing wrong with showing a little skin. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, Terri says her 8-year-old daughter has never had a Bratz doll and never will, but Melissa has no problem with her 6-year-old twins playing with the provocative pre-teens of plastic. Are Bratz just harmless toys or a negative influence? Plus, Lilly says her 19-year-old daughter, Cassie, dresses like a slut and a hooker, and even walks the dog in high heels! What can Lilly do to get Cassie to cover up, or should she? And, meet an 11-year-old who says her parents are too old-fashioned when it comes to her clothes, and they just need to get with the times. Share your thoughts here.

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camdenchick

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November 23, 2007, 7:24 pm PST

That is crazy!

I think that it is crazy for people to blame the way there kids dress on BRATZ Dolls. That may influence there way of dress in a way, but it is the parents chose to ether buy the cloths for there children or let them out of the house. Honestly, I believe that if they want themselves looking like trash them let them. With that statement if you feel like there well being is in dangered then make a change. i agree with guys these days are very degrading and rude, not to mention perverted but if the guys aren't going out of there way to look there is no hard. Me being as opionated as I am; I don't personally think that the last guest, the 11 year old girl, that her cloths where that bad. In a way they were extremely cute. Now, with those girl that wanted EVERYTHING to hang out that was a little over board. Also, that was what she liked. Some people only look on one side of the story. Sometimes if you look on both sides of the story you understand better of why they do what they do.

sincerly,

Jessica

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lovesgrandkids

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November 23, 2007, 7:25 pm PST

Why girls end up so hurt and disillusioned...

Like it or not, it has always been the the women that civilized men. In past generations, women forced men to a higher standard.

Now girls have sunk to the low standards and lack of decency of boys. The sad part is they think this is creating equality.

By attracting men who are looking for nice girls they have a better chance of ending up being respected and fulfilled in good relationships.

Showing skin and tight clothing is visual pollution. I am revolted by women of all ages and shapes showing to much of their bodies.

A girl should not wear makeup or revealing clothing. Our society is putting young girls and women at risk by encouraging a provocative appearance.

Modesty is a value that needs to be taught to girls. They need to learn beauty is not cleavage and tight short skirts.

I would never allow my daughter to walk around looking cheap and promiscuous, nor would she want to.

It is easier to allow the girls to fit in and "look like all the other girls", but it is not being a good parent. High grades are nice, but decency and presentation come higher in my book.

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mbybee

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November 23, 2007, 7:29 pm PST

Very lucky

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Dr Phil just walk into any middle school or high school in the US and you can judge for yourself. Read the dress codes in the schools and walk the halls and you may be surprised by what you see. The dress codes are there but they are not always followed by the students, making it just as difficult for staff members along with the parents that have the same concerns. I'm sure that there are parents who do not care how their child dresses or they are not aware of what their child looks like once they have arrived at school in the morning. This has always been an ongoing concern for some staff members at the high school where I work. I have been there 20 years and I can tell you I do believe that it is a problem. I also have a daughter, we have struggled in the early years about dress concerns but we got thru it. I wore black lipstick shopping just to make a point while shopping with my daughter one day...the point was made and we went out and purchased pink lip gloss to replace the black lipstick she was taking to middle school. Apparently I did not look to hot in the black lipstick...Thank God for small favors. And at the age of 24 yrs old she is a great young lady and I'm very proud of her and the choices that she has made. This did not happen without some struggle as I sure you know...It is about parenting and being there all the time for your children.. be involved...maybe on the sidelines ...but always be there. It is not an easy job at times but the rewards are there. I look back about 35 years and I can tell you my mom rolled her eyes a few times and made a few suggestions before I left to go out on a date. I'm sure she was thankful for school uniforms. Thank you

I feel very blessed and lucky that my daughter attends a school that makes it a point to not only have good dress codes but enforces it on a daily basis. Every morning, in middle school, ALL students are required to stand up and raise their arms. If any part of the stomach is showing, they are requred to wear a shirt provided by the school all day or the parents are called and they are sent home to change. The shirts they are provided to wear are also not at all a fashion stmt. So, for those girls who want to be fashionable, this is definitely punishment. My daughter's body torso is very long so with the shirts sold in stores these days it was very difficult to find shirts that were long enough for her that when she raised her arms, her stomach did not show. I feel very thankful and blessed that she is a part of a school where they really care enough to enforce the school policies and rules. And this school is NOT a SMALL school, but it is not one of the biggest around either.

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November 23, 2007, 7:33 pm PST

my opinion

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marymay18

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November 23, 2007, 7:43 pm PST

my reverse pyschology

I am 18 and not in bad shape, but i have always dressed modestly, i think tummys and upper thighs are something a little more personal than your knees. Growing up both parents were always trying to get me to dress older (mother tried to dye my hair pink at 7, and dad said i must have some sort of "body shame" for not wanting to show off my body). thinking back on those things and always wanting to go the complete opposit of what they told me, i think i became more modest and willing to cover up because they were always messing around and trying to get me to dress diferently. this just might be the best reverse physcology ever because i was never sent to the deans office once for a dress code violation all during school.

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November 23, 2007, 8:14 pm PST

Hello from Melissa the twin mama!!

Hi everyone I just wanted to say thanks to all of you who support what I said about the parents being the influence not the dolls. I had a great time on the show and enjoyed sharing my thoughts and viewpoints about the Bratz. My girls are very well behaved and act nothing like a Brat!! I instill good values in them that a plastic toy can't.

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kmeyer12345

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November 23, 2007, 8:17 pm PST

if only they could seem them selfs

i am a 20 yr old college student who works in the local mall. like many Americans i am an avid people watcher on my breaks. I've noticed so many girls, my age and younger who dress in an "uncalled for fashion". this christmas season i've noticed the outer wear for the cold evenings include short shorts or skirts accompanied by tanktops covered by an ultrathin layer of a long sleve shirt, with there toasty ugg shoes. don't get me wrong, i beleve i saw the same outfet in a steve madden ad, and sure i thought to my self, hey that doesnt look all that bad.. but waite.. i can see her butt hanging and its under 50 degrees out.. and oh yea, shes probaly not a model, so she really has no reason to wear it. or there was this girl, in a nice short sleve shirt and jeans, not bad.. but why were ther holes under each but cheek... she didn't have a but to wear out a spot in her pants.. and can she really say "boy even though i cant see it, i bet all my friends think my butt and i look cute.. and i doubt boys notice it, beacuse i just want to look sexy, and not get atraction from a male." as i watch all heads turn, and hear whispers of "what the? what happened to her pants?" awakward.

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djanimaequeen

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November 23, 2007, 8:28 pm PST

Mild vs Wild

I agree that young children should not dress provocatively but to censor what grown women do is absurd. You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to push your opinions on others. I do feel that the women who have an issue with body conscious clothes tend to be overweight and unhappy with their figures.
Also, the statements made by the pregnant women about women being responsible for the thoughts that go through mens head I found to be the most offensive and counterproductive statements I have ever heard. So then when a rich person is driving their BMW and I steal it, it's the rich person's fault for teasing me? Please! My dress being too short is not a green light for me to be raped. What goes through a man's mind is his business and he is the ONLY person that is responsible for the consequences should he choose to act on his impulses. PERIOD.

I do however feel that young girls should dress the way their parents feel is appropriate. If the kids don't like it, they can dress the way they please when they move out and get a job. However, all of you women who had one too many bon-bons and are not happy about the outcome need to layoff the lucky ones and worry about how you influence your children instead. Stop trying to control what everyone else wants to wear. If the police aren't picking them up for indecent exposure, it really isn't any of your business. Just like no one can control your choice to have children, you cannot control what your children see. You can however teach your children that there are things that adults do, and there are things that children do.

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lafromla

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November 23, 2007, 8:48 pm PST

11/23 Mild vs. Wild

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I agree that young children should not dress provocatively but to censor what grown women do is absurd. You are entitled to your opinion but you are not entitled to push your opinions on others. I do feel that the women who have an issue with body conscious clothes tend to be overweight and unhappy with their figures.
Also, the statements made by the pregnant women about women being responsible for the thoughts that go through mens head I found to be the most offensive and counterproductive statements I have ever heard. So then when a rich person is driving their BMW and I steal it, it's the rich person's fault for teasing me? Please! My dress being too short is not a green light for me to be raped. What goes through a man's mind is his business and he is the ONLY person that is responsible for the consequences should he choose to act on his impulses. PERIOD.

I do however feel that young girls should dress the way their parents feel is appropriate. If the kids don't like it, they can dress the way they please when they move out and get a job. However, all of you women who had one too many bon-bons and are not happy about the outcome need to layoff the lucky ones and worry about how you influence your children instead. Stop trying to control what everyone else wants to wear. If the police aren't picking them up for indecent exposure, it really isn't any of your business. Just like no one can control your choice to have children, you cannot control what your children see. You can however teach your children that there are things that adults do, and there are things that children do.

Re: "You can however teach your children that there are things that adults do, and there are things that children do. "

I'm sorry but I must disagree. Just because you turn 18 or 21 does not give a person the green light to do what was inappropriate when they were underage. An immoral or innappriate act is still immoral or inappropriate regardless of your age.

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walkindead

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November 23, 2007, 8:55 pm PST

Call me old fashioned...

but the whole thing with the 11 year old just teed me off. SHE IS 11 YEARS OLD... not even a teenager! my question to her would be: what job do you have? who pays for your clothes? how dare some child (and yes, she is a CHILD) tell her mortgage paying parents what she is going to wear.

i am telling you. our society is going the way of the Roman emppire. They were all high and mighty and wanted to do things their own way. They were the world power of their day, but when their morals and family structure broke down, the mighty power fell like leaves blowing in the wind.

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