Topic : 11/23 Mild vs. Wild

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Created on : Friday, October 05, 2007, 11:29:23 am
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Celebrities like Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan and Nicole Richie are known for wearing skimpy clothes, but does that mean midriffs and micro-minis are right for your daughter? A new debate is brewing over whether women should go mild or wild. First up, Brenda Sharman, the national director of Pure Fashion, believes young ladies should dress modestly. She faces off with four women from the audience who say there’s nothing wrong with showing a little skin. What does Dr. Phil think? Then, Terri says her 8-year-old daughter has never had a Bratz doll and never will, but Melissa has no problem with her 6-year-old twins playing with the provocative pre-teens of plastic. Are Bratz just harmless toys or a negative influence? Plus, Lilly says her 19-year-old daughter, Cassie, dresses like a slut and a hooker, and even walks the dog in high heels! What can Lilly do to get Cassie to cover up, or should she? And, meet an 11-year-old who says her parents are too old-fashioned when it comes to her clothes, and they just need to get with the times. Share your thoughts here.

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November 30, 2007, 9:42 am PST

Seriously???

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If you had seen the Bratz Babies I saw, you wouldn't be calling those tight, nylon knit panties "diapers".  you'd get an awfully wet lap if you if a pee-ing baby were sitting there, wearing them.
It is a doll for God's Sake! It isn't like they are supposed to be real people wearing to scale size clothing? It is pretend that is what people like you need to realize! Do boys who play with spider man or transformers go and dress like them in tights? Don't think so neither are girls playing with simple dolls! My girls who were on the show have everything bratz and don't ever ask to dress like them! They have brief size under-ware! Not THONGS! Get Real!
 
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November 30, 2007, 11:57 am PST

11/23 Mild vs. Wild

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It is a doll for God's Sake! It isn't like they are supposed to be real people wearing to scale size clothing? It is pretend that is what people like you need to realize! Do boys who play with spider man or transformers go and dress like them in tights? Don't think so neither are girls playing with simple dolls! My girls who were on the show have everything bratz and don't ever ask to dress like them! They have brief size under-ware! Not THONGS! Get Real!
 As I've already posted, your girls are too young. They're only six! Peer pressure at their age is nothing like it will be in another five years. Wait until they're the age Dr phil's other guests, Cassie was and Megan is. 11! The age when Cassie started dressing like a Bratz doll.  And, Megan wants to. Dr phil has had other guests who dressed that way. Or, at least wanted to. The common denominator? They were all 11! The age your twins will be in five years. By then, you might wish you could take back your post. And, listened to Dr Phil. He shared some pretty extensive reseach about the influence toys have on chidren. Did it make no impression on you at all?
 
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November 30, 2007, 12:15 pm PST

They grow out of the Bratz.

I just watched this episode from last week, and I couldn't help but laugh. These Bratz dolls are no big deal. My daughter has gotten quite a few Bratz dolls over the years. She is now 10 1/2, and you know what happened to the dolls? They are in a plastic container collecting dust! The negative influences on my daughter's life are lying in containers with their hair all matted from hours of brushing and styling, half naked because something else caught her attention before she fully dressed it,  and amputated because she never had two shoes that matched. They look just like my Barbies did when I was her age. She doesn't dress like a Bratz doll, or wear makeup like a Bratz doll. She acutally could care less.
 
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November 30, 2007, 12:15 pm PST

11/23 Mild vs. Wild

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Yes Bratz have made the #1 Selling doll for the 4th year in a row if they were so bad then why are people buying them like crazy?????????
So, people are buying Bratz dolls like crazy? Why be part of the crowd? A time may come when you don't want your twins to be a part of the crowd. Kudos to those mothers who stand out from the crowd and don't buy Bratz dolls.
 

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November 30, 2007, 1:16 pm PST

11/23 Mild vs. Wild

I honestly wish that Dr. Phil did not minimilize the Christian Advocate's (I am sorry I forgot her name) comment about women feeling responsible for the purity of thought of men around them.

 

My fiance' and I are going through very rocky times because of his confession to me about continually finding himself looking at women's breasts. He works with the public and is baraged all day long by scantily dressed women, Being a man who wants to please God he is unhapy with being forced to view things he does not want to see. And I myself feel that he should just 'not look'.

 

I hear the young ladies say they have a right to be comfortable and dress like the times but I see no one, in any situation these days, feeling the responsibility of respecting those around them. In this Me generation there does not seem to be a conciousness about the happiness and well being of our fellow man.

 

 
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November 30, 2007, 1:19 pm PST

It's OK to be mild

I am 30 years old and I just watched the show "Mild vs. Wild" today. I have to say that I grew up in a home where my parents did have the influence on the clothes I wore.  I have always dressed conservatively, yet have been interested in fashion.  I feel that in a way "you are what you wear".  People perceive you by how you present yourself.  Just because one chooses to dress more conservatively does not mean it gives a license for sloppiness.  I can say that my Christian beliefs do persuade how I dress.  I believe that my outward appearance is an inward representation of what I believe and the God I serve.  I do not judge those who do not share my beliefs but I feel that there is a certain amount of respect that a person should have.  My  husband is the only one who sees my cleavage/breasts or my legs above my knees.   My body is God's temple and I choose to dress it beautifully and fashionably without compromising modesty. 
 
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November 30, 2007, 1:26 pm PST

So true

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I honestly wish that Dr. Phil did not minimilize the Christian Advocate's (I am sorry I forgot her name) comment about women feeling responsible for the purity of thought of men around them.

 

My fiance' and I are going through very rocky times because of his confession to me about continually finding himself looking at women's breasts. He works with the public and is baraged all day long by scantily dressed women, Being a man who wants to please God he is unhapy with being forced to view things he does not want to see. And I myself feel that he should just 'not look'.

 

I hear the young ladies say they have a right to be comfortable and dress like the times but I see no one, in any situation these days, feeling the responsibility of respecting those around them. In this Me generation there does not seem to be a conciousness about the happiness and well being of our fellow man.

 

It is true, the Bible says that if any man looks on a woman with lust in his heart, it's the same as committing adultry.  Any woman who dresses to lure a man is causing him to sin.  It may not be in black & whiite print, but it's in RED print.  Last I knew, those were the words of Jesus.

 
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November 30, 2007, 1:37 pm PST

mild vs wild

I would like to say that as a mother of a 13 year old daughter I think that on this show they were comparing apples to oranges! It is completely different when you have boys, when these young girls dress provacative grown men do not look at them and say oh wow look at her shes only 13, They look at them like they are a piece of meat! Especially because they don't wear their age on their shirts when they dress like that!

What I am referring to is:

 

Dr. Phil describes the style of his two sons: Jay is preppy, and Jordan is a rebel. "[Jordan] plays lead guitar in a rock band in L.A. He'll come in and what did he have last?" he asks, turning to Robin. "A Mohawk?"

"Yes, and it was purple," she replies, grinning broadly.

 

"Didn't he have polka dot hair one time?" Dr. Phil asks.

 

"Yes, he did dot it one time, but I thought he was adorable," Robin answers.

You have to understand he's the same kid, whether he has a Mohawk or pink dots in his hair," Dr. Phil explains to Diane and Don. "He's still respectful; he still does all the things he's supposed to do."

 

Diane lists the things about Megan that make her proud. "She is a straight-A student. She’s also a Type I diabetic, and what she’s done for seven years, she takes care of her health," she explains. "All the other aspects about her are wonderful, and that's why we are saying to ourselves, 'This one issue that she is so passionate about, should we be giving her a little more leeway?'"

 

"The answer is yes. You should be giving her more leeway because she is a good citizen. She is a straight-A student. She manages her health," Dr. Phil remarks. "I think that earns some latitude in other areas. Not to the point that it compromises safety, not to the point that it compromises morality, not to the point that it compromises the core values that you embrace as a family."

 

Dr. Phil addresses Megan. "With privilege comes responsibility," he says. "Be creative, and find ways to do what you want staying within the bounds of where you need to be."

 

 

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I've never disagreed with Dr. Phil before until now. When you have daughter's especially when they already look older than what they are, It is completely different! My 16 year-old son is always defending his sister because no matter what she's wearing whether it be a t-shirt and jeans or a tight shirt and jeans, Men always tend to check her out!!!! And my baby girl is not a sex symbol.I guess what I'm trying to say is that these girls don't wear their personalities on their clothes!So it doesn't matter if they are a straight A student or not, when they dress provacative they are looked at as slutty or easy no matter who they are underneath that clothing!

 
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November 30, 2007, 1:44 pm PST

Young Girls Wear

As for me, I am a 21 year old woman. As I recall in school, there were rules on clothing wear. 'Girls:Your shorts/skirt had to be at finger-tip length or longer, pants couldn't show underwear when bent over or at all, shirts had to be stay at the pant line when arms are raised. Boys: Your pants are to stay at your waist, can not show boxers and wear a belt to help.'  Those rules are the best thing that a school can do. Honestly, parents show have around the same rules, but I think as far a the shirts for girls, as long not a whole lot of skin shows its fine. Now for the boys, let them wear what they want how they want unless their boxers are showing. For the parents out there...You want your kids happy? Let them do what makes them happy...as long as it is safe. As I was growing up, my parents let me dress the way I wanted as long as I was happy. I'm a "Tom-Boy" so I would wear what made me happy...boys clothes. I moved in with my Aunt and Uncle when I was 12 and they wanted me to wear girls clothes, which didn't make me happy at all. I eventually moved in with my Dad and he wanted me happy so he went out and bought me what I wanted to wear. I had moved to my Grandmother's for my Senior year in High School and she had put restrictions on what I could wear but still allowed me to wear what I wanted. As long a the child is doing good in general (i.e. school, health wise, etc.) let them be happy, even if its what they want to wear even if you (the parents) don't care for it.
 
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November 30, 2007, 2:34 pm PST

I'm going to have to disagree

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Let me ask you this If you had a shape like Haley Barry would you cover up? Anywhere you look sex sells it is part of the times! If you looked like Eva Longoria would you cover up? I think you can dress classy & sexy if you have it flaunt it. The people that complain are usually not in shape, overweight, and older.  Some "Fantasy night" clothes are trendy & cute. I don't think it is appropriate for someone 300lbs or out of shape to wear a micro mini but someone like Paris I think she looks great! Some things aren't appropriate to wear  to church or a school function but pleeze lighten up and get with the times you dress how you feel comfortable and sexy whether it is leaving things to the imagination or not!
I could not disagree more with this viewpoint. As an 18 year old and in great physical shape. I am also sick and tired of the generation I am growing up in. I am tired of seeing girls and women exploit themselves to gain self worth. And where is "getting with the times" going to get us in another twenty years? As we see rising statistics of young kids having sex in schools as well as rising rape and sexual abuse victims, when on earth are we going to take a look at where that starts and what we should do about it. How we dress, especially as women, plays an enormous role in the way our society operates today. What role models do parents allow their young daughters to emulate? Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, Lindsay Lohan and etc. All of these women have a couple things in common....an extremely revealing style in clothing, and prison records. Not exactly what I want for my future children.
 

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