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Created on : Monday, October 08, 2007, 04:49:49 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/15/08) The speculation surrounding O.J. Simpson has never stopped since his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman were tragically murdered 13 years ago. Millions watched O.J.'s infamous white Bronco chase on TV. The murder trial, which lasted 10 months, is often called the trial of the century and was the most watched in history. Simpson stirred the controversy again by attempting to publish a book called, If I Did It. While he says it's a work of fiction, the family of Ron Goldman believes If I Did It is his confession, and that he got caught up in the interview process for the book and forgot that he was supposed to be speculating rather than reporting. Now, the Goldmans are the focus of a huge controversy as they take over publishing the tome. Are they justified in taking the profits away from the man they believe to have killed their loved one? And, meet the ghostwriter of If I Did It, Pablo Fenjves, a man who sat across the table from O.J. for over three months as the former football star told him how it would have happened -- if he had been the killer. Join Fenjves as he goes back to the crime scene and reveals compelling details from his conversations with Simpson. Plus, Dr. Phil offers his take on O.J. and this now best-selling book. Was it a confession, or is it truly just a hypothetical account? Tell us what you think!

Find out what happened on the show.


 
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July 4, 2008, 10:21 am PDT

OJ Book Battle/response to Jewels/Grieving

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   This is something that I have to get off of my chest. To those of you who are not aware of this, there are NO RULES for grieving. This is not my opinion, this is a fact. No one can dare presume to tell another when it's time for them to stop and get over it. Nor can they tell them how to grieve, how long to grieve, how long to hold on to their anger, when it is time to forgive, how long they can cry, how long they can think of their loved one with sorrow, nothing, There are no rules for grieving!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

   My husband lost his son at the age of 20 in a horrible car accident. He also saw his son at the scene. I would or could never dare to presume to tell my husband how he is supposed to grieve his tragic loss. This is as individual of a process as individual as each person is. Is this really that hard to understand? I get it, am I just more enlightened than many of you out there? As I said, this is not my opinion but indeed a FACT! There is not a rule book that you run down to the nearest Barne's & Noble and buy when you lose a loved one.  A person has to take this journey on their own, in their own way, and on their own time. Just because some of you out there have managed (quite luckily) to be able to deal with this easier than others does not mean that you can tell another how it is supposed to be done. Grieving is each individuals own right!

Brilliant, Right On!  Perfection!  Awesome!  Jewels, I couldn't have said it any better myself.  You hit the nail right on the head with this post and your others.

 

I love what you wrote, I get it.......now I think there's at least a "few" of us enlightened.  I'm sure in actuality, there's MILLIONS of us, but obviously not on these boards in respect to this O.J. debate.

 

Each person is fully entitled to grieve in their own personal way.  You are 100%, no you are 1,000,000,000% RIGHT!

 

Unfortunately Jewels, until it happens in "THEIR" family or life, they just won't ever get it.  We are indeed a very self-centered society of people, but some of us have compassion, like you and me.

 

 
 
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July 4, 2008, 11:52 am PDT

O.J. Book Battle

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He deserve's everything oj owns including the bathroom tissue oj wipes his butt with!!  He is trying to cash in on money owed him by the slasher that killed his son!  Since the psychotic murderer hid his money in illegal off shore accounts and hides in a state that protects people who owe debts of this sort.  Let's all try to remember a very important point here..........he was tried in a civil court and ordered to pay Millions to the Goldman's!  oj simpson is the poor excuse for a human being!  writing a confession book after slashing two people in hopes of making money off it. 

God please open the eyes of the blind!!!!!

p.s. I'm sure Mr. Goldman wishes every single day of his life he had his son back, and not to be in the public eye, or as you would put it so eloquently a nobody!

 

I agree with every single word you said, you are right....................

 

There's a few of us who keep posting about the horror of it all, but the resistance from those who believe this psychotic piece of crap O.J. is innocent are truly blind and I too wish someone could get through to them all.
 
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July 4, 2008, 12:00 pm PDT

Are you kidding me?

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I think it is tragec how people presume that OJ is guilty.  After all, he was aquitted in the criminal trial.  Everyone assumes that OJ went there to kill his wife and that poor Ron Goldman happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  I think that Ron was the intended victim and that OJ's wife opened the door at the wrong time.  I think it was a drug related killing.  Wasn't Ron's roommate, also, killed just shortly afterward?  Food for thought people.  How could OJ have committed such a bloody crime and not be covered in blood himself?  In the civil trial no one had to prove that he really committed the crime, only that he could have.  A lot of innocent victims are in prison today because no one had to prove that they were guilty.
I can't understand these people that think there is even a glimmer of hope that OJ is not a killer, let alone the ones like this that flat out say hes not.  And you bring up the shame of the trail that aquitted him?  It no use questioning people like this, so...  Whatever...
 
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July 4, 2008, 12:03 pm PDT

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I have never been as disapponted in you Dr Phil as I am after this show.  I can not even begin to have any clue as to how hard it must be for the Goldmans.  OJ is trash and is a insensitive monster.  But, why Dr Phil are you promoting these two of devoting their lives to harrassing this man?  Didn't you once tell a woman to celebrate her daughters life instead mourning her death?  You told them that Ron would be proud of them?  Was Christ in his heart when he died?  Did his father tell his son about Christ before he died?  If not his father is to blame also as his son has been condemned to hell.  If thats the case I doubt his son is very proud of anything his father did as he is burning and being tormented for eternity.  Would Jesus want OJ to be punished... ofcourse.  But, would He get the rights of OJ's book and then republish it for His own profit?  I doubt it.  Ron's father is trying to say that the money OJ got is blood money, but the money he is getting is not?  C'mon?  I'm tired of excusing the Goldman's behavior because they had a such a loss. 
 
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July 4, 2008, 12:24 pm PDT

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Brilliant, Right On!  Perfection!  Awesome!  Jewels, I couldn't have said it any better myself.  You hit the nail right on the head with this post and your others.

 

I love what you wrote, I get it.......now I think there's at least a "few" of us enlightened.  I'm sure in actuality, there's MILLIONS of us, but obviously not on these boards in respect to this O.J. debate.

 

Each person is fully entitled to grieve in their own personal way.  You are 100%, no you are 1,000,000,000% RIGHT!

 

Unfortunately Jewels, until it happens in "THEIR" family or life, they just won't ever get it.  We are indeed a very self-centered society of people, but some of us have compassion, like you and me.

 

 

Jewels, I do agree that the greaving process can be long.  It may never end.  No, I do not think you are more enlighten the everyone else.  Not in the least.  You have this person here telling you how brilliant you are.  I won't do that.  I have lost someone 15 years ago that rocked me off my foundation.  For a long time I could not even function normally.  I still break down when the memories get to intense.  I do understand the greaving process and will do so for the rest of my days.  I am not willing to put my life on hold to do this full time though.  Your words coming after this show make me think that  you are saying this unhealthy behaivior is ok.  No rules right?  Your right, there are no rules.  God has no rules either.  But He says that if we pick wrong path it WILL lead to certain destruction.  I mourn my brother and best friends death everyday... sometimes with tears.  I also remember how incredible he was and KNOW that he would want me to live the best life I can live.  This actually makes me want to be better than I would have before, because I know he would want that. 
 
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July 4, 2008, 3:51 pm PDT

Simpson Jurors

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People who continue to say that O.J. Simpson murdered Nicole and Ron continue to play double standards. They continue to persecute the man after the court cleared him of criminal responsibility. This indicates that they don't believe in the justice system, and that make it very dangerous. What information do they have that wasn't presented in the trial that makes them more right than the jurors who decided on the case? Hypocrites!

 

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What is the double standard here?  The "court" did not clear him, the jury did.  The women on the jury were as ignorant as the defendant.     Women that get hit by a man, and stay with him, get hit again, get threatened to be killed, will most likely wind up dead by that exact man.  It's called spousal abuse.

In some cultures, woman think this is a way of life.

She should have had someone beat the living ...... out of him the first time he laid his hand on her.....maybe they both would still be alive today.

 
 
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July 4, 2008, 4:02 pm PDT

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Pam, how do you know so much about his, OJ's, son?  Did you date him?
Are you kidding me with this theory?  Get a grip....
 
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July 4, 2008, 4:07 pm PDT

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I was not going to buy this book since I wanted no part in giving money to "the murderer".  Now that I know the Goldman's will benefit I will definitely be getting it this weekend.  May God Bless the Goldman's, and the Brown family, in their continuing fight for justice.
me too!
 
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July 4, 2008, 6:41 pm PDT

OJ Simpson Book Show

I am Totally supportive of the Goldmans. I want to buy the book so OJ cannoy profit from it and hope the proceeds will help their cause against the person I believe murdered their son and brother.
 
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July 4, 2008, 6:47 pm PDT

Hard to get through to some....................

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Jewels, I do agree that the greaving process can be long.  It may never end.  No, I do not think you are more enlighten the everyone else.  Not in the least.  You have this person here telling you how brilliant you are.  I won't do that.  I have lost someone 15 years ago that rocked me off my foundation.  For a long time I could not even function normally.  I still break down when the memories get to intense.  I do understand the greaving process and will do so for the rest of my days.  I am not willing to put my life on hold to do this full time though.  Your words coming after this show make me think that  you are saying this unhealthy behaivior is ok.  No rules right?  Your right, there are no rules.  God has no rules either.  But He says that if we pick wrong path it WILL lead to certain destruction.  I mourn my brother and best friends death everyday... sometimes with tears.  I also remember how incredible he was and KNOW that he would want me to live the best life I can live.  This actually makes me want to be better than I would have before, because I know he would want that. 

   I get so frustrated on the message boards because it is so hard to be able to get through to people. I am not the one who has made the so called "rules of grieving", what I am doing is stating a fact. I can't tell anybody how to grieve over a loved one any more than you or anybody else on earth can. The whole point that I was trying to make is that it is a FACT that every single person is as individual as a snowflake and it is also a FACT that the grieving process for each individual is as individual as they are.

   I do not really care what your opinion of me is, but when it comes to being more enlightened than others? I know that I am! I'm not suggesting that I am more "enlightened" than everybody, but, compared to many of the people that have posted on this particular subject it's obvious that I am in the minority of the enlightened ones! I do not understand how other people can tell the Goldman's to "just let it go, it's been 13 years" or to call the Goldman's gold diggers and other hateful, venomous, and cruel names. Do you condone that abhorrent behavior?

   I too have experienced earth shattering loss! I too have had to go through the grieving process! There isn't a person alive that will ever be able to tell me how I am allowed to grieve. My husband has suffered even worse than I have, I would never presume to tell him how to handle his own grieving process. But , just like you, we have not put our lives on hold either. However the Goldman's choose to grieve is their own business, not ours or anybody else's and it is wrong for others to push their own beliefs or opinions on them. It is in fact their own right!
 
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