Topic : 07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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Created on : Monday, October 08, 2007, 04:49:49 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/15/08) The speculation surrounding O.J. Simpson has never stopped since his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman were tragically murdered 13 years ago. Millions watched O.J.'s infamous white Bronco chase on TV. The murder trial, which lasted 10 months, is often called the trial of the century and was the most watched in history. Simpson stirred the controversy again by attempting to publish a book called, If I Did It. While he says it's a work of fiction, the family of Ron Goldman believes If I Did It is his confession, and that he got caught up in the interview process for the book and forgot that he was supposed to be speculating rather than reporting. Now, the Goldmans are the focus of a huge controversy as they take over publishing the tome. Are they justified in taking the profits away from the man they believe to have killed their loved one? And, meet the ghostwriter of If I Did It, Pablo Fenjves, a man who sat across the table from O.J. for over three months as the former football star told him how it would have happened -- if he had been the killer. Join Fenjves as he goes back to the crime scene and reveals compelling details from his conversations with Simpson. Plus, Dr. Phil offers his take on O.J. and this now best-selling book. Was it a confession, or is it truly just a hypothetical account? Tell us what you think!

Find out what happened on the show.


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July 4, 2008, 7:02 pm PDT

07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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Pam, how do you know so much about his, OJ's, son?  Did you date him?
I believe that this post is from the year 2007, and is old. I don't know how it turned up in the current messages.
 
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July 4, 2008, 7:02 pm PDT

OJ Book

Both of my daughters were killed together in 2004.One was 20 and one was 24. I cannot tell you how painful every day is without them. My heart goes out to the Goldmans for their loss. Life is unfair and unfortunatly horrible people get away with murder. I am so sorry you have had to suffer the details of the final moments of your childs life over and over again. How dare anyone criticize your grief or your pain or your dedication to chase the murderer of your brother and son. I honor your commitement and perceverance to take anything you can from OJ Simpson. My daughters and I watched this trial and were shocked at the outcome. 

I understand the pain you go through every moment of every day wondering what Ron may have become, who he would have married, and what children he would have had, Every holiday, etc. It is horrible being part of the parents who have outlived their children. My son has to feel the same kind of pain your daughter goes through every day. I try to remain as his father and work through this, I don't want him to feel I died when his sisters did. My God, to have had your child murdered fighting for his life is beyond belief. God bless your family. God bless your son. He is a true hero and you raised a good man.

 
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July 4, 2008, 8:32 pm PDT

07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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I feel like the Goldmans are wrong, OJ was found not guilty in the court system and the Goldmans are just

GOLDDIGGERS. As far as I'm concerned the Goldmans probably hired someone to steal OJ's items from

his home because he appears to be that type of a person. I was the trial and had I been on the jury I would

have voted to rule the same way. The evidents didn't lead me to believe that he did it. They are like llittle kids when you just keep picking at people because you believe he did it, but you don't have any evidents that he did. Dr, Phil you  usually stand nuetral but this time you showed your true colors

This is just malicious gossip.  He looked like the type of person that would hire someone to steal OJ's stuff is hilarious.  Also, others could read your posts much easier if you would use spell check.
 
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July 4, 2008, 8:49 pm PDT

07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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My son died from cancer at age 8.  My mother died at age 55 from cancer.  I've had loss. I'm not an automaton.  I know that if someone does not move on from loss, that grief and anger will eat you up.  They seem to have made their life's ambition reliving the murder of Ron.  OJ Simpson owes them money and he should be made to pay.  Is he guilty?  I believe so, yes.  Not arguing any of those points. 

I am not making light of your loses in any way. I also have lost family members to cancer.  It is a scary and horrible disease.   I think this lose was different, because someone brutually caused this.  OJ felt he had the right to take the lives of these two people. It makes me sick to imagine the fear of Ron and Nicole as they had to physically fight for their lives against this man ( and probably someone with him).  As a parent, I know I would continue to feel the anger and hate against the person that killed my child.  The Bible says to forgive, but I truly don't know if I would be able to do it.  When a death is caused by cancer it is also horrible, but you don't have to look at the person who caused it going scot free and living it up.
 
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July 4, 2008, 11:29 pm PDT

Unbelievable...............................

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Both of my daughters were killed together in 2004.One was 20 and one was 24. I cannot tell you how painful every day is without them. My heart goes out to the Goldmans for their loss. Life is unfair and unfortunatly horrible people get away with murder. I am so sorry you have had to suffer the details of the final moments of your childs life over and over again. How dare anyone criticize your grief or your pain or your dedication to chase the murderer of your brother and son. I honor your commitement and perceverance to take anything you can from OJ Simpson. My daughters and I watched this trial and were shocked at the outcome. 

I understand the pain you go through every moment of every day wondering what Ron may have become, who he would have married, and what children he would have had, Every holiday, etc. It is horrible being part of the parents who have outlived their children. My son has to feel the same kind of pain your daughter goes through every day. I try to remain as his father and work through this, I don't want him to feel I died when his sisters did. My God, to have had your child murdered fighting for his life is beyond belief. God bless your family. God bless your son. He is a true hero and you raised a good man.

Dear Chuck,

   Reading your post made me cry. First of all because of the fact that you lost 2 children instead of just one, twice the pain. Not knowing but assuming that they were your only daughters. I was able to relate to the things you said about always wondering who they would have married, not ever being able to see their future children, who they were going to be. Everything,

   I don't know if you have ever read any of my posts but I have talked about the loss of my 20 year old step son, my husbands beloved son. I don't look at any of my step children as "step". I call them my own children even though the age difference isn't that far apart. It doesn't matter that I didn't give birth to them, I love them with my whole heart and would give my life for any of them. I also love my husband so deeply that I cannot even put it into words. So having to watch my husband as he has silently grieved over the last 17 years just rips my heart out. He never talks about, never has since it happened. That is one of the reasons why I feel so passionate about how a person mourns the loss of a loved one. They have to do it in their own way, in their own time.

   To this day I still cry over him. This son in particular had my husbands exact personality and loving, gentle heart. His death was rather tragic, all of them are but I'm talking about the circumstances and the fact that my husband actually saw him at the scene. I had to be taken back home before we got there because I got sick and also started passing out. It was the typical scenario that you always fear, the phone call at 2am. Their are details that we know about that are not proper to post here, nor would I be comfortable in discussing them. Needless to say, it's just something that you can never forget.

   You're right when you say that life is unfair. When I think about all of the cold hearted and cruel people that seem to get through anything and the wonderful, loving, generous hearted people that are taken away way too early, that is unfair. That may sound cold but my heart is breaking and I'm only being honest with my feelings. The one thing that my husband was determined to do was to continue to be there for his other 2 children who still needed him. I know that a part of my husband died that night, but life has indeed gone on.

   Now, 17 years later, last night at 11pm he just became a grandfather to his first grandson. God has blessed him with 3 granddaughters and finally gave him a boy to add to his joy. The pain is still new for you. I can promise you one thing, it will get easier with time. I don't know if you have any grandchildren yet but when that day comes, I can't even begin to tell you the joy that will fill you're heart. My husband has such a sparkle in his eyes when he sees them. It's absolutely beautiful!

   I'm down with the flu right now and wouldn't have bothered with posting a message, I am not really up to this. But, after reading your post I had too. My heart goes out to you. I just wanted to let you know that there are other's who have been in your shoes, not that it really helps to make you feel any better, I know. But I also wanted you to know that their will be joy in your life again. I promise.

God Bless You and Your Family,

Jewels

 
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July 4, 2008, 11:46 pm PDT

Food for thought?

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I think it is tragec how people presume that OJ is guilty.  After all, he was aquitted in the criminal trial.  Everyone assumes that OJ went there to kill his wife and that poor Ron Goldman happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.  I think that Ron was the intended victim and that OJ's wife opened the door at the wrong time.  I think it was a drug related killing.  Wasn't Ron's roommate, also, killed just shortly afterward?  Food for thought people.  How could OJ have committed such a bloody crime and not be covered in blood himself?  In the civil trial no one had to prove that he really committed the crime, only that he could have.  A lot of innocent victims are in prison today because no one had to prove that they were guilty.
I can't believe that you are actually implying that this is Ron Goldman fault! I guess that you have never heard of "not speaking ill of the dead"? Especially when you have absolutely no foundation for this accusation. This is downright disgusting, you are disgusting! And BTW, I've never even heard of a drug hit going down like this. What, it's easier to do it at someone else's house, a complete stranger, a potential witness if she had lived, not knowing who else could be in the house, instead of a nice, quiet, murder that would have taken place at his own house or outside of town?  I could go on and on about how stupid this idea is. I'm not even into the drug scene but I would be smarter than that if I was going to knock someone off due to drugs! I'm not going to bother with the rest of your post, the whole thing is nothing but a bunch of idiotic drivel. I just have one last thing to say. Learn some manners and get some common sense!
 

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July 5, 2008, 1:36 pm PDT

Simpson

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He murdered them and got away with it. He thinks he is above all else and cannot be punished. The man has a definite mental problem. I feel for his children. They also know he's a killer.
There is something wrong with people that can't leave OJ alone and keep on prodding claiming he did it when in fact, we do not know if he did or who did, right folks???  This is just conjecture and someone's opinion.  Frankly, as an American I believe we have to support our legal system as best we can UNLESS we have concrete evidence to the contrary.  Further as a Christian, it is wrong to continue to blame OJ like the Goldmans are doing.  Why don't they get on with their life?  What difference does it make it doesn't change what happened.  How can someone like the Goldmans find peace when they have made claims against OJ all this time even if he is found guilty.  Look what they have done with their life, spent all this time in a hate compaign.  Do they honestly believe that when it is all over, one way or another they can be proud of what they did?  And what if OJ is innocent, then how are the Goldmans going to feel about what they have done with their life.  I think Dr. Phil was wrong in his advice and complimenting them to continue to persecute OJ.  He should have advised them to drop it and get on with their life.  After all, if OJ did do it - guess who is in complete misery all the time, OJ. you can be sure of that.  There is a reason why Christian ethic suggests that vengeance is the Lord's and unrighteous judgement is wicked.   
 
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July 5, 2008, 2:50 pm PDT

give me a break

HE DID IT! I can't believe there are STILL people who think otherwise.  He killed two people, got away with it, raised NICOLE'S children after he hacked her neck  in half and is a stone cold bastard who only cares about golf.

 

Poor Ron................I hope the Goldman's make money on the sale (I bought the book today). I hope OJ is seething at the thought of money in THEIR pockets!

 

 

 
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July 5, 2008, 2:51 pm PDT

07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

Quote From: lnoles

I am not making light of your loses in any way. I also have lost family members to cancer.  It is a scary and horrible disease.   I think this lose was different, because someone brutually caused this.  OJ felt he had the right to take the lives of these two people. It makes me sick to imagine the fear of Ron and Nicole as they had to physically fight for their lives against this man ( and probably someone with him).  As a parent, I know I would continue to feel the anger and hate against the person that killed my child.  The Bible says to forgive, but I truly don't know if I would be able to do it.  When a death is caused by cancer it is also horrible, but you don't have to look at the person who caused it going scot free and living it up.
Good for the GOldman's and good for Dr. Phil.
 
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July 5, 2008, 3:51 pm PDT

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There is something wrong with people that can't leave OJ alone and keep on prodding claiming he did it when in fact, we do not know if he did or who did, right folks???  This is just conjecture and someone's opinion.  Frankly, as an American I believe we have to support our legal system as best we can UNLESS we have concrete evidence to the contrary.  Further as a Christian, it is wrong to continue to blame OJ like the Goldmans are doing.  Why don't they get on with their life?  What difference does it make it doesn't change what happened.  How can someone like the Goldmans find peace when they have made claims against OJ all this time even if he is found guilty.  Look what they have done with their life, spent all this time in a hate compaign.  Do they honestly believe that when it is all over, one way or another they can be proud of what they did?  And what if OJ is innocent, then how are the Goldmans going to feel about what they have done with their life.  I think Dr. Phil was wrong in his advice and complimenting them to continue to persecute OJ.  He should have advised them to drop it and get on with their life.  After all, if OJ did do it - guess who is in complete misery all the time, OJ. you can be sure of that.  There is a reason why Christian ethic suggests that vengeance is the Lord's and unrighteous judgement is wicked.   
You actually believe that OJ is capable of feeling misery all of the time, if he is guilty? Did Ted Bundy feel misery? No! Sociopaths are not capable of feeling guilt. They are not capable of any feelings at all except narcissism. And why do people continue to try and tell the Goldman's how they need to live their life? It is their life after all. If they choose to pursue what is rightfully theirs then I say "GO for it!"
 

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