Topic : 07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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(Original Air Date: 10/15/08) The speculation surrounding O.J. Simpson has never stopped since his ex-wife, Nicole Brown Simpson, and Ron Goldman were tragically murdered 13 years ago. Millions watched O.J.'s infamous white Bronco chase on TV. The murder trial, which lasted 10 months, is often called the trial of the century and was the most watched in history. Simpson stirred the controversy again by attempting to publish a book called, If I Did It. While he says it's a work of fiction, the family of Ron Goldman believes If I Did It is his confession, and that he got caught up in the interview process for the book and forgot that he was supposed to be speculating rather than reporting. Now, the Goldmans are the focus of a huge controversy as they take over publishing the tome. Are they justified in taking the profits away from the man they believe to have killed their loved one? And, meet the ghostwriter of If I Did It, Pablo Fenjves, a man who sat across the table from O.J. for over three months as the former football star told him how it would have happened -- if he had been the killer. Join Fenjves as he goes back to the crime scene and reveals compelling details from his conversations with Simpson. Plus, Dr. Phil offers his take on O.J. and this now best-selling book. Was it a confession, or is it truly just a hypothetical account? Tell us what you think!

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July 6, 2008, 7:20 pm PDT

07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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O.J. DID IT. HE IS GUILTY. THE JURY ACQUITTED HIM FOR REASONS HAVING NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CRIME HE COMMITTED. THEY ACQUITTED HIM BECAUSE THEY COULD. THE WHOLE TRIAL AND VERDICT WAS A TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE. IF WE WAIT FOR THE VENGEANCE OF THE LORD, NO ONE WOULD EVER GO TO JAIL FOR ANYTHING. O.J. SHOULD HAVE BEEN CONVICTED FOR KILLING THOSE PEOPLE ALL THOSE YEARS AGO AND HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL.

It's things like this that make being an atheist difficult (well, being an atheist is difficult most of the time! LOL anyway)...because I don't believe that people like OJ will get theirs in the end....
 
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July 7, 2008, 4:56 am PDT

07/02 The O.J. Book Battle

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It's things like this that make being an atheist difficult (well, being an atheist is difficult most of the time! LOL anyway)...because I don't believe that people like OJ will get theirs in the end....
Whatever relationship that O.J. has with God is between him and God. He will have to work that out on his own. But, when he killed those people, he was a mortal being. We mortal beings have laws that we are supposed to obey. It is against our mortal laws to kill people. Our system failed, because, in the end, the jurors refused to do the right thing. They were called upon to do a job and they let everyone down in the end. I wonder how they all feel about what they did, all of these years later?
 
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July 7, 2008, 8:40 am PDT

If I did It

In my opinion OJ Simpson is a monster. He did it and there is no question in my mind that his book is not only a confession but a slap in the face of the victim's families. He got away with murder and he knows that he can pretty much say anything he wants and he will contunue to get away with murder. No normal person who is "innocent" will write a book with very specific details saying if i was to commit this murder this is how i would do it. I dont think he wanted to confess and this was his way of doing it. He knows what he did and he wrote this book to further hurt Nicole and Ron's families. OJ is just rubbing salt in an open wound. This is his way of saying " ha-ha" i got away with it and there is nothing you can do about it. After watching this show i was disguested with OJ. But at the same time i had to go out and buy the book. I had to see for myself if this was hypothetical or a confession. After reading the book i was further disgusted with him. In the end, what goes around comes around and in time he will do his time.
 
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July 7, 2008, 12:09 pm PDT

Our Legal System

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There is something wrong with people that can't leave OJ alone and keep on prodding claiming he did it when in fact, we do not know if he did or who did, right folks???  This is just conjecture and someone's opinion.  Frankly, as an American I believe we have to support our legal system as best we can UNLESS we have concrete evidence to the contrary.  Further as a Christian, it is wrong to continue to blame OJ like the Goldmans are doing.  Why don't they get on with their life?  What difference does it make it doesn't change what happened.  How can someone like the Goldmans find peace when they have made claims against OJ all this time even if he is found guilty.  Look what they have done with their life, spent all this time in a hate compaign.  Do they honestly believe that when it is all over, one way or another they can be proud of what they did?  And what if OJ is innocent, then how are the Goldmans going to feel about what they have done with their life.  I think Dr. Phil was wrong in his advice and complimenting them to continue to persecute OJ.  He should have advised them to drop it and get on with their life.  After all, if OJ did do it - guess who is in complete misery all the time, OJ. you can be sure of that.  There is a reason why Christian ethic suggests that vengeance is the Lord's and unrighteous judgement is wicked.   

Frankly, as a person who turned to our legal system, and got NO WHERE, I cannot support it as it stands.  I think as Americans, we ought to fight to change it.  My situation was not comparable in brutality, nor was anyone killed.  It WAS however, pretty bad. 

Prosecuters have very low budgets, while the high profile criminal defense attorneys have unlimited resources at hand...which is wonderful if the system allows the victims to be put on trial.  It does, so it is wonderful for wealthy criminals with high profile defense attorneys, not so wonderful for victims and for their families!

I wonder who killed Bonnie Lee Blake? Certainly not ROBERT BLAKE, her disgruntled husband who stood trial and got off.  The man gave these interviews that were soooo sincere...the guy's an ACTOR...so was O.J.  It is almost as if people feel they KNOW celebrities, while all they know is the roles they play, or the games they play.  THE JUICE...he wouldn't do that!  Neither would Baretta!  It's FANTSY confused with who these people really are, and we DON'T KNOW THEM!

I agree in O.J.'s case, the police were the worst enemy to the prosecution.  WHY LIE?  The lies were so stupid, yet they were proven to be as such, and THERE was reasonable doubt...wonder who got paid off?  No cop (I hope) could be that dumb!

Until we stop allowing the victims, their families, and their social network to be put on trial, our legal system is flawed.  The trial was NOT about Nicole's sex life, not about her relationship with Ron Goldman...if there was one, you can't ask them.  It was about a horrific murder for which I believe O.J. to have had some responsibility.  I do not think he acted alone..not sure if he wasn't looking out for his henchmen...but I do believe he was at the root of it all.

My D.A. took one look at the name of the defense attorney representing the accused in a case with my children, told me and my husband she would NOT put children through HIM...and hoped for a plea that, like in the O.J. case, never came. 

O.J. doesn't seem to be in misery to me, nor from all accounts, does the man who got off in our case.  Sociopathy is great for the conscience...those who have the disorder, don't have a conscience.

I am a Spiritual person, but I don't think that rape or murder has the Lord's blessing.

If the system were equal and just, if the case were heard on FACTS, not slanderous accusations against anyone and everyone...just the facts, maybe we'd have justice.  A janitor would have been jailed for murder in that case, rape in mine...money influences the legal system.  I cannot support it as it stands!

 
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July 7, 2008, 4:00 pm PDT

Regarding post's from: kathleen & babe91988

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In my opinion OJ Simpson is a monster. He did it and there is no question in my mind that his book is not only a confession but a slap in the face of the victim's families. He got away with murder and he knows that he can pretty much say anything he wants and he will contunue to get away with murder. No normal person who is "innocent" will write a book with very specific details saying if i was to commit this murder this is how i would do it. I dont think he wanted to confess and this was his way of doing it. He knows what he did and he wrote this book to further hurt Nicole and Ron's families. OJ is just rubbing salt in an open wound. This is his way of saying " ha-ha" i got away with it and there is nothing you can do about it. After watching this show i was disguested with OJ. But at the same time i had to go out and buy the book. I had to see for myself if this was hypothetical or a confession. After reading the book i was further disgusted with him. In the end, what goes around comes around and in time he will do his time.
I am in full agreement with both of you. Actually, there are others that have recently posted that I agree with too! First I want to reiterate that a sociopath has no conscience therefore is unable to ever feel remorse for their actions. I would also like to ask, who in their right mind would write a book such as this if they are in fact "not guilty"? I don't even understand a person who is guilty deciding to write something such as this! For all of the OJ supporters out there, have some common sense and think about it! Why would a person who has been acquitted from a horrific crime write a book about how it would be done if in fact he had done it? Instead, an innocent non sociopath would write about what they had gone through during the trial or maybe what has happened in their life since then. NOT what they "would have done"! It's basic common sense!!!!!!!!!!!! Again, I have no issue over who chooses to buy the book, I just know that I won't, I don't want to read the words from the horses own mouth. Especially knowing that he got away with it! And yes babe, you're right! It is a slap in the face!
 
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July 8, 2008, 12:58 pm PDT

Move On

perhaps the Goldmans could use some advice from the many Amish families whose children were murdered in PA not so long ago -- forgive, and move on.  Their faith causes them to forgive, not forget or send a message that it's "o.k. what you did" but rather "we are here for God's purposes, and living day-to-day with hatred, revenge-seeking thoughts would not allow us to do God's work."  The only people suffering every single day are not the killers or the killed, but rather the families who were harmed.  They'd all be better off to move on with productive lives rather than live their lives being hateful.

 
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July 9, 2008, 9:26 am PDT

O.J. Book Battle

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"It's not about COLOUR, it's about JUSTICE...which WAS NOT SERVED".


Thank you for saying it sooooo well !!

I agree with all of your post but, the end part, is the REAL truth to it !!!!

Like you have put it so well, the Jews really did suffer in the past but WHEN do you hear them play the race card or play the victim role. For most of them, they did turn the page on the past (without forgetting it), moved on, turned it in a positive outlook and assured a future for themselves. However, the black people on the other hand, keep playing the race card at every occasion they get and never seem to be able to move on !!!

I do feel for the Goldman and the Brown families and I do hope that they will be able to reach some kind of closure and peace of mind eventually, if even possible.

To the Goldman and Brown families, I really admire your strength, your determination, and class in handling and dealing with this so difficult and heart breaking hardship.

Lady Tinou.

Lady Tinou,

 

Great post and thanks for responding to mine.  Touche...we JEWS will never FORGET.  My heartfelt wishes and utmost respect also goes out to both the Brown and Goldman families.  If I were in the Goldmans' position, I would do the exact same thing, I would ensure that O.J. Simpson hears from me daily forever.

 

This is a horrid travesty of injustice, my heart truly bleeds for them all and their daily pain. 

 

To those of you posting, trying to make this a racial war, you need to look deep within yourselves and question why YOU ARE SO FULL OF HATE.

That's all it is complete and total HATE.

 
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July 9, 2008, 9:35 am PDT

The O. J. Fiasco

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I will be brief and simply say that Marcia Clark and Chris Darden were completely out performed by O. J's dream team.  They presented a week of stupefying DNA evidence that was impossible to follow even if you were university educated.

The glove didn't fit because it was wet and shrunk.  The real motive was Nicole's rejection and determination to be rid of him.  He was mad about not being invited to dinner after his daughters dance recital.  He spied upon her and saw that she brought guys back to his townhouse and she let Ron Goldman drive his Ferrari. 

This was a blow to his huge ego.  He had been a revered Super Star all of his adult life.  He experienced a red hot rage when he saw Goldman and Nicole and he attacked with unbelievable fury. No one else could have been paid any amount to do that kind of butchery.

Marcia Clark missed the boat, she should have hammered away on his motive.  That is something that a jury of his peers could have understood

 
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July 9, 2008, 9:37 am PDT

RESPONSE ABOUT O.J> BATTLE AND GRIEVING

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   I get so frustrated on the message boards because it is so hard to be able to get through to people. I am not the one who has made the so called "rules of grieving", what I am doing is stating a fact. I can't tell anybody how to grieve over a loved one any more than you or anybody else on earth can. The whole point that I was trying to make is that it is a FACT that every single person is as individual as a snowflake and it is also a FACT that the grieving process for each individual is as individual as they are.

   I do not really care what your opinion of me is, but when it comes to being more enlightened than others? I know that I am! I'm not suggesting that I am more "enlightened" than everybody, but, compared to many of the people that have posted on this particular subject it's obvious that I am in the minority of the enlightened ones! I do not understand how other people can tell the Goldman's to "just let it go, it's been 13 years" or to call the Goldman's gold diggers and other hateful, venomous, and cruel names. Do you condone that abhorrent behavior?

   I too have experienced earth shattering loss! I too have had to go through the grieving process! There isn't a person alive that will ever be able to tell me how I am allowed to grieve. My husband has suffered even worse than I have, I would never presume to tell him how to handle his own grieving process. But , just like you, we have not put our lives on hold either. However the Goldman's choose to grieve is their own business, not ours or anybody else's and it is wrong for others to push their own beliefs or opinions on them. It is in fact their own right!

I get so frustrated at times on these boards also Jewels and why, because of exactly what you indicated in your above post.  Harpo...you posted you wouldn't have responded or called the post by Jewels "brilliant", well guess what?  You're not me, to each his own.  You are fully entitled to your opinion and beliefs, just as we all are, but seriously what part of Jewels post do you NOT understand. 

 

Grieving is absolutely PRIVATE and different for us all.  NO ONE has the right to tell someone how they should grieve, when they should grieve, when they shouldn't grieve, when they should stop grieving......grieving is a PART OF LIFE; albeit not a joyful one, but still it is a part of LIFE, and it's also a part of carrying on with ones life, thus the process of every single human being grieving in their very own way.  Everyone has their own dividual stories, everyone shares pain from their past, we all walk a different path in this world, but that's the point we all have a path to follow, are we to now determine who gets to grieve for what and when and how?  This is not a competition (a twisted/sick one mind you) about who's gone through more trauma and horror and tradgedy, this is about a person's individual right to GRIEVE peacefully without the likes of many people on these boards, telling them to GET OVER IT.  If anyone ever told me to get over the loss of one of my loved ones, well for one second I can quite honestly say, I would definitely forget that I'm a lady.

 
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July 9, 2008, 9:41 am PDT

O.J. Book Battle

Quote From: shellajh

I feel the same way about getting through to people who think he is innocent.

It's very trying at times because it doesn't take rocket science to KNOW he's GUILTY as SIN.  He'll get his one day, what goes 'round comes 'round.

 

 

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