Topic : Arguing Over Money

So you strongly told your husbank to finish his degree - Fine I say to that, But 

Would you rather have an University educated spouse or a spouse that used his God given natural talents and Makes it.??? 

Rog 

An education is the one thing that they cannot reposess, cannot take from you. It indicates that not only do you value yourself enough to stretch your boundaries, but that you can begin a project and finish it.  An education is  not simply training for a job; its developing a personality, and filling your mind with ideas. Smart educated men are very sexy. 

As far as "Making It", I know many many men who have a ton of money but are dumber than a rock. They achieved their wealth through luck, or a particular skill. Without skilled management, that luck will eventually end, and many skills dissipate with age- a person with an education, finding themselves in a tight situation can choose to pull themselves out of their circumstance- if they choose.  

An education makes a person interesting 

Your husband has a 2 year degree in his field. Would he have done as well if he  didn't get the training to get him in the door to succeed? And his ability to learn the job is whats gotten him ahead as well, so obviously, hes no dummy. My husband needed to get a degree to boost his ego. He is a highly intelligent man who always thought he was not- the degree makes him aware of his intelligence. Had he not gotten the degree, I believe he would have always thought that he wasn't quite as "good" as the rest of the people around him.   

There seems to be a current trend to downplay a college education. There will always be someone who is good at basketball who will make a million dollars a year. There will always be a movie star who makes millions each year. There will always be a lottery winner who hits it big. BUT, for safety, get that education, so that when you are 60, you don't have to be worrying about what the future holds- rather, enjoying what the fruits of your labor have brought you. PS, to our stay at home moms,  and parents who are scraping by so that thier kids can have a bright future,the best investment you can make is in your kids- financially as well as emotionally.  Tuition is cheaper than bail..... 

Your husband has a 2 year degree in his field. Would he have done as well if he  didn't get the training to get him in the door to succeed? And his ability to learn the job is whats gotten him ahead as well, so obviously, hes no dummy. My husband needed to get a degree to boost his ego. He is a highly intelligent man who always thought he was not- the degree makes him aware of his intelligence. Had he not gotten the degree, I believe he would have always thought that he wasn't quite as "good" as the rest of the people around him.   

There seems to be a current trend to downplay a college education. There will always be someone who is good at basketball who will make a million dollars a year. There will always be a movie star who makes millions each year. There will always be a lottery winner who hits it big. BUT, for safety, get that education, so that when you are 60, you don't have to be worrying about what the future holds- rather, enjoying what the fruits of your labor have brought you. PS, to our stay at home moms,  and parents who are scraping by so that thier kids can have a bright future,the best investment you can make is in your kids- financially as well as emotionally.  Tuition is cheaper than bail..... 

Do you think that You had anything to do with the fact that he thought that he needed a degree to 'boost his ego'.  Isn't one of the jobs of each spouse to build each other up, to tell each other that 

you don't have to prove anything to me or anyone else?????  Your last line first paragraph. 

Why is there a trend to downplay an college education - because so few of them become rich, become SMM's (self made millionaires).  Look at the apprentince.  Over a million apply - 18 - the best of the best are chosen and when they are pitted with tasks assigned by one of the Masters - 

they crumble (Master's degrees), very few of them rise to the occasion.   

When the apprentice first season - who was one of the starts - Troy - only had high school - yet beat the masters degrees - and when they pitted book smarts against street smarts - the thing that brought down the street people was infighting - why - egos - the book smarts were tooo much by the book - but the street smarts were using their God given abilties and whatever works - they were 

all successful. 

I will never put down someone who finishes a college education - but when they can't use that too 

Really get somewhere - You Wonder!!!!! 

Rog 

I am not a millionaire. And I don't care. I have always worked hard, and when my husband and I met and married 6 years ago, we decided that for security we needed to begin to save money, get out of debt and succeed. That we have done. If more couples expressed expectations for their spouses during courtship, there might be more successful marriages.  (To say and mean -i.e: Its important that you graduate from school, stop drinking, stop drugging, stop spending your time on video games, stop cheating, stop hanging with your buddies, stop shopping all the time, stop being a diva, etc) If you are honest from the get-go, no one is in for a negative surprise. 

I don't watch tv a lot, not that I think its so bad, but that I think a lot is worthless, so I have never seen the apprentice. I have seen CSI and Law and Order. 

Where have you gotten without an education? Want to compare bank accounts and business success stories? I am game. Life isn't about the money you acrue, its how you live each day- and being able to study a Pollack or talk to my daughter about Georges Bizet is more important  to me than being a millionaire. Yes, money makes it easier, but its not the only thing. And without my education, I couldn't do that which makes me happy. 

you have said - in fact I would probably stand in front of you defending an education - notice I didn't say 'college' I said education whether thru some Prof or private study - it's still education. 

I have been fired from almost all the jobs I have had - why - I finally realized about 5 years ago - It's because of my strong personality.  I was brought up to be proud of who I am and it seems that there are a lot of business owners who can't handle people who know who they are or who know more than the owner. 

I have an A.A. in Accounting and too many professionals in this field do not consider an AA a degree.  I saw a show about really successful people and one of the major common factors was that they were 'Happy' doing what they did - they got paid for 'having fun'.  It wasn't until I read the book that I have quoted in these posts 'Rich Dad - Poor Dad' that finally woke me up and turned me around and slapped me in the face.  Since that time I have been doing two things - giving my all to each employer and doing the best I can - and Being for Me and finding what I can do.  Hopfully I will not have tooo much longer.  The author of the book Retired at 47 and I want to retire as soon as I can. 

I was also straightened out as to what retirement is and isn't. 

Rog 

Is your husband currently working as an LNA or nursing assistant? If he is, and there is such a need for nurses right now,  that the facility might be willing and able to "comp" him college courses to finish his nursing degree with an assurance that he goes to work for them after graduation.  He is 28, and while I truly believe in sowing your wild oats before you get married, once you DO marry, you have to jump on the bandwagon. My husband is 56, and will finish his bachelors degree in Feb of 2006. Hmmm why so long? Because when I married him, I strongly told him that our future kids would need to have role models for their education. He is incredibly smart, and has gone through a 4 year program while working full time with a 4.0 average at Drexel University(yes, as a matter of fact, I DO brag about him)- it was just an issue of desire on his part, and I credit myself for putting it there......(nag vs. creating an issue of desire) 

Get him working in the field and the opportunities will arise- 

I have had a lot of people work with me who decided they "knew who they (were) and knew more than the owner" (me)  They are now doing other things- happily, I hope, but funny, they keep calling to see if they can come back to doing parties with my company. I keep saying "You know so much more than I do, it would be too frustrating for you to have to work with a dummy like me. Have a great afternoon and good to hear from you!" 

I know that I will never retire, because my work is too much fun, and I do it around my familys' schedule. Plus, it makes a buck or two.....