Topic : 10/12 Homecoming Shooting

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Created on : Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 10:58:52 am
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Early Sunday morning in Crandon, a small Wisconsin logging town, 20-year-old deputy sheriff Tyler Peterson went on a shooting rampage killing six people and critically wounding another before authorities fatally shot him. A part-time police officer, Peterson fired thirty rounds of ammunition on his ex-girlfriend and a group of friends who had gathered for pizza and movies to celebrate homecoming weekend. Who was Tyler Peterson, and what drove him to murder six people in cold blood? What is the profile of a mass murderer, and does he fit the description? How could Peterson have slipped through the system to become a law enforcement officer, and how do we keep it from happening again? Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence.* From the 1999 Columbine massacre to the nation's deadliest shooting rampage in history at Virginia Tech last April, mass shootings in America continue to draw world scrutiny. Be there when Dr. Phil asks the tough questions. If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is gonna talk about it now! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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October 12, 2007, 1:23 pm PDT

10/12 Homecoming Shooting

Has it not occured to anyone that perhaps if parents were actually allowed to raise thier kids now days, maybe less of this sort of thing would happen??  Kids do whatever they want because they can.  The Gov has taken away all parents rights to raising a child.  If I did something wrong as a child I got my butt spanked, now days you can't even look at your child wrong without being called an abuser.

How many school shootings happend back in the 50's-60's??  Yeah I thought so, and didn't kids behave so much better back then??  Yeah I think so.

 

parents are afraid to dicapline so they do nothing and these kids run wild doing whatever it is they please without understanding the repercussion.  Give parents thier rights back and maybe kids won't be so out of control.  And seriously, get off the video game trip..games don't cause kids to kill.

 
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October 12, 2007, 1:28 pm PDT

10/12 Homecoming Shooting

I am Canadian. I have three children - my 10 year old son's biggest fear is that our family would have to relocate to the United States. His understanding of the United States is that people are shot and killed everywhere - whether they are at work, at a restaurant, at school or even at home. There must be nothing more frightening in the world than having a gun pointedat you. I would not know. I have never seen a hand gun and I don't know a single person who owns one. I would not know how to purchase a hand gun, how to load a hand gun, or how to fire a hand gun. Many Canadians can make this statement. In Canada there are very strict gun laws and very few people own firearms other than for their work or for game. That is perhaps why in Canada there are very few shootings anywhere. It is very difficult for someone to access a firearm. I am very sad for the family and friends effected by all of the shootings in the United States.

 
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October 12, 2007, 1:30 pm PDT

WHAT???????

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The reason for having a gun today is more important than the times which you have mentioned. They are drugs and gangs. Gang members are our modern day wild animals. My husband and I grew up with guns and we both have our concealed weapons permits as does our 22 year old daughter. She was raised to be responsible around guns just as we were. Guns are not as easy to get as a car is and on any given day of the week more people are killed in car wrecks than by a gun. This is a fact. Are we to deny car ownership? You say you hate guns but if you were in a situation where somebody was going to harm you and someone with a gun saved you butt, you would be most grateful, I am sure.

How close do you some to "Todays Wild Animals"?  Do you live in the Hood? Have you ever had the day to day survival problems these people have had since the day they were born?

 

You sound like a very RESPONSIBLE person.  You and your family seem to have the correct training and credentials in order to carry a handgun. 

 

What if, What if , your 22 year old daughter becomes involved in a commitment with a young man and after a time needs to move on with her life but the young man is crushed?  What would stop that young man reaching into your daughter's purse and shot her between the eyes.  God Forbid. But therein lies the rub.

 

We have a right to bear arms. Excellent. Do we need the right to bear AK47"s? Do we need to bear Uzi's?

Canada allows their citizens to bear arms in order to get food.;  Take time to research Canada's rate of murders compared to the US.  Compare Detroit to just across Lake Erie.

 

If having concealed weapons makes you feel better and secure Wonderful whatever floats your boat.

 

A VAST majority of people in this Nation chooses not to live in fear.  I'm not sure,. but is Texas the only state that  allows concealed weapons? If I am incorrect I apologize. If you are, I take the saying Don't Mess With Texas to heart. Guns were a part of you growing up. Understandable.

 

But I would hate to be in a local restaurant with you if one of those "Animals" knocks you down unawares and steals your gun and shoots you and me.

 

By the by, please tell me what the static s are for  premeditated murder by car are compared with premeditated murder with a gun. I do know of one that involved a hate crime in Texas involving a young man who happened to wear a Mohawk hair cut and the local guys were offended. The Young Man was killed by car.  By the way the young man was well thought of by the owner of the Cadillac Ranch where he worked and by the other people who knew him  A very nice young man..

 

So in closing, Today's Animals are anywhere.  Even nice young jocks from the local high school who don't like a guy with a Mohawk.

 

 
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October 12, 2007, 1:31 pm PDT

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i live in east texas just a few days ago a 9 year old boy brought a gun on the bus . luckely a he told a older student the older boy took the backpack it was in and told the busdriver and the boy was stopped . the boy was sent to alternant shcool and the shcool informed all the parents. the 9 year old was mad at another little boy on the bus .  thank god the older boy did the right thing. what i want to know is why did this little boy think that was all right to do that?
 
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October 12, 2007, 1:31 pm PDT

This is really pisses me off

 I am so tired of turning on the news to hear about another school shooting. I mean what is wrong with the world, where the only thing that solves problems is go shoot the person involved? I have heard many excuses to why they did it, but none justifies killing another.

 
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October 12, 2007, 1:35 pm PDT

what are we doing in America?

Dr.Phil,

Thank you for bring up this serious situation in our schools.  I have three sons 13, 10 and 8 I'm terrified at the thought that when i send them to school they might not return.  Although i know there are risks everyday for my sons. I just can't get past this.  I want to know what i can do as a parent . i wish i could start some kind of safe environment for these kids that don't involve video games but, include good ol fashion fun.  i grew up in a family with seven kids and grew up around alot of violence and at some point even was violent.  i feel children in America are going unsupervised and don't have any guidance from their parents or family. I believe children should be held accountable for their actions but,  I also believe that it's time parents wake up and stop thinking about what they can buy their kids or what kind of car their driving or sending  their kids to daycare center at three weeks old. what it cost them to pay daycare centers they can cut back on their spending and be parents not baby makers for other people to raise our kids they need us to nurture and teach them not baby factories.  Parents stop pointing a finger and step up to the plate be parents together don't runaway.  believe me i want to run away at times from My husband and my children i almost was even divorced at one point my husband and i realized the importance of family and the impact it has upon our children our not mine or his our we both have a responsibility to give these children stable homes .not just monetary objects but memories of baking cookies,  playing a family game,  setting the table and praying together.  god help these parents and children to be great people and have the resources they need to get by in life.  If you see someone in need of help don't step over them saying you have your own life.  help other people have your children reach out and share a toy or snack be considerate of others if people didn't reach out for my brothers and sisters we probably wouldn't be the people we are today.  we had seven of us and most of the time my mother was a single parent.  people always reached out with coats,  food, money Christmas presents,  thanksgiving dinner if people stepped over us and said they had their own life we wouldn't of had any of that.

 

Thanks DR.PHILL

for bringing this subject up to the American public because this is the demise of our future generation if we don't wake up

 

 
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October 12, 2007, 1:37 pm PDT

Getting very tired

I feel very sorry for the familys, all family,  all friends, relatives, pets even, that have lost someone in a shooting, but there is also another problem.

What happened to the unknown amount of children and young adults that are considered a danger, and then get lost in the system. A week before the one year anniversary to the Columbine shooting, I was kicked out of my high school because my friend made threats. We would write back and forth to each other in a little journal, and after a cheerleader went into the principals office to say she didn’t like the way my group, the outcasts acted, my locker was searched and this journal was found.  

  

I had not one threat or any indication of any violence. It was her venting to me, but since it was in my locker they called me in. There was a hit list in this book, how she wanted to hurt people. Would you like to know who was then kicked out of the school? She was suspended for a month, then was allowed to come back, but I was not welcomed anymore, I was expelled.

I got lost in the system, going school to school because everyone seemed to be afraid of me even though in my 21 years I have never gotten into a fight, never been physical with another person. I think it is wrong how people profile these kids who are different.  


 
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October 12, 2007, 1:38 pm PDT

Responsible solutions

Dr. Phil,

 

    I would not want to be the one to point a finger at a fraction of law enforcement officers that are bad either but we must be accountable and realize these men and women are frustrated and often emotionally overwhelmed.  In the Wisconsin case we have to really ask ourselves about the wisdom in selecting young emotional men and women in positions of high authority.  I'm 41 and I still face emotional conflicts I can only imagine the emotions running in a twenty year old (and what about background checks).  We all face emotional distress but we must be mature enough to mitigate it and find a solution.  I am praying for the families of those involved but also relying on the God given wisdom of persons in authority to make good decisions and keep kids out of harms way (situations).

 

   I believe we (school authorities, society and security) can react to school violence in a common sense and responsible manner without using partison political attacks or profiling.  In my opinion there is not one cause but we (as a society) have provided a sum of causitive factors.  Gun availability by itself is not a cause nor is TV violence or acts of killing, murder or violence in video games.  But when we couple these with pressure to be cool, fit in, succeed academically and a possibly poverty or insecurity we increase the chances of these types of incidents.  Independent of political stance I thought we all were in agreement that crime and such increased during times of hardship and poverty.  Our law enforcement is the enforcement arm so we can't really expect them to be counselors.

 

 
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October 12, 2007, 1:41 pm PDT

Help Prevent Shootings

Dr. Phil, I just finished listening to the NOW show on the school shootings. I didn't hear much on how to try to prevent these disasters. I'm a retired elementary teacher, a mother of 4 and grandmother of 8. I think from a child's earliest years they need to be taught how to think about what happens to them; getting hurt physically and emotionally. They need to learn good ways of coping with the things that happen to us. All parents should be taught how to do this, teachers need reminders. When a child has a good attitude about himself and knows he/she has the power to recover from disappointment that child will not be anxious to hurt others....because he/she is not hurting inside. Good self esteem is essential. There are those children who may not be able to respond to this guidance and they are the ones we need to get to a professional mentor as young as possible. Teachers can often spot children even in kindergarten who are headed for trouble. We all need to be more active in getting help.
 
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October 12, 2007, 1:42 pm PDT

today's show friday oct. 12th

hello, i have written a few diaries on this same subject. i missed a lot of the show, but i can relate. this boy probably needed someone to help him, just like my grand kids need. it always seems like it takes something like this, before anyone will help you with your own problems concerning your own gr/kids.i fear that some day, my grand kids will do something like this, because no one would listen to them, or help them when they needed the help!!four of 5 of my grand kis were put in a foster home that was not a very good home!!i've tried telling dr. phil about this, but because i'm, not very good on this computer, or no one is listening to me, my kids are going to go on with out anyone getting them help!!i've tried all the avenues i know to get them help, i was hoping to get some from dr. phil!!i was wrong again!!i know there are many many others who need the same kind of help i need, but no one will listen.i can not take anymore time hoping dr. phil is going to save them, i have to keep trying to get htese kids the help they need. i am not putting anyone down, please i am not, i just don't think by doing this, i'm going to get any help!!it's sad what that little boy did, but he didn't know what else to do!!no one was there, evidently, that's why things like this keep happening.foster parents will go on killing these poor kids, cause we don't have a system avalable for us to try to help them before something like this happens!! i will keep praying for everyone who has these same problems as i do!! thank you debbie  csb has done nothing to help me, they just keep passing the buck!! i asked the head of it for help, and do you think he called me back?  hell no!!
 

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