Topic : 10/12 Homecoming Shooting

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Created on : Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 10:58:52 am
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Early Sunday morning in Crandon, a small Wisconsin logging town, 20-year-old deputy sheriff Tyler Peterson went on a shooting rampage killing six people and critically wounding another before authorities fatally shot him. A part-time police officer, Peterson fired thirty rounds of ammunition on his ex-girlfriend and a group of friends who had gathered for pizza and movies to celebrate homecoming weekend. Who was Tyler Peterson, and what drove him to murder six people in cold blood? What is the profile of a mass murderer, and does he fit the description? How could Peterson have slipped through the system to become a law enforcement officer, and how do we keep it from happening again? Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence.* From the 1999 Columbine massacre to the nation's deadliest shooting rampage in history at Virginia Tech last April, mass shootings in America continue to draw world scrutiny. Be there when Dr. Phil asks the tough questions. If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is gonna talk about it now! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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October 12, 2007, 2:24 pm PDT

NRA responsible for shootings

more gun control is needed in this country. do you ever hear of this kind of violence in CANADA?

JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

 
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October 12, 2007, 2:24 pm PDT

Amen

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It seems to me that we are missing the real problem concerning violence in the schools.  I feel the violence began when prayer was taken out of the schools.  And then the ten commandments and bible were removered.  Even on your show of October 12, 2007, Dr. Phil, not one word was mentioned concerning taking God out of the schools. 
I couldn't agree with you more!!!!!!
 
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October 12, 2007, 2:25 pm PDT

Guns don't kill people, I do!

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 Hello my name is Alicia. I am 19 years old and am currently in College. I just found that today on Dr. Phil's school shooting show you seemed to be going in circles and trying to figure out how to "read" the potential shooters. I know there isn't a 100% way we can detect every school shooting that could possibly happen. But why do all these shooters have accessibility to guns? Shouldn't that be something that Public School Health and Safety people should be looking after? Also, would it be too big of a deal to get detectors on every entrance into schools? That should be something that is mandatory in School systems. Some people/kids might have problems with doing that everyday but I think if they had detectors at each entry into the schools that then they would be able to contact people who are bringing guns into the school. That's just what I think. I think that the main problem is the guns that all these people are being able to use and have accessibility too.
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Title is a quote from a movie. Now that I got your attention, violence occures everyday in our school systems. Just about any big city high school, there is a isolated stabbing or fight that results in a student either being maimed for life or death. This happens so often that it is no longer news worthy in those cities. Now in those same cities, illegal guns are ever so easily obtained that few people or students even try to get guns via any legal method.

 

The correct thing to do about guns is first. Make mandatory gun training for everybody. Every single person in the country should go through a basic class of how to handle guns and the responsibility of gun ownership. This way if you're a big anti-gun fanactic, you'll still know what to do and how to handle a gun if your child comes home with one. Not too many years ago, a father who was completely gun inept shot his child while taking it away and trying to unload it. Parents who go through this training now totally understand the potential hazards to having a gun, and can make an intelligent decision as to where allow guns into the house. One of the best strategies ever conceived is know thy enemy. If you do perceive guns as the enemy, it is your duty to learn the most you can about guns so you can make an informed decision about guns.

 
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October 12, 2007, 2:27 pm PDT

You never forget

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Hello

Well I wonder why no one addresses the real issue when it comes to these problems.  It is a tragic thing that should never happen.  The people were wrong in the way the expressed their hate and anger.  I in no way condone what happen and pray for the family of the victims.   The real issue is that most of these people were picked on severely, had broken homes with no one to talk with, and have been shunned by most including family members.  I grew up a product of being physically and mentally picked on from kinder on through my senior year by all the popular kids or cliques.   These kids are relentless always targeting someone when they come around a corner on a daily basis.  ANd the big problem is that teachers or parents never really do a thing about it saying  being picked on is a normal thing in school.  Parents of those who do the picking just blow it off because they never see the behavior of their children in this manner.  It causes depression and anger. Some kids have no way of expressing thier feelings until they have already reached the breaking point.  I realized as I have grown that sure it was childish to be treated in those way by other's and glad I have learnes valuable lessons from it but it doesnt excuse the acts of those who did it.  The stronger always seem to seek out the perceived weak and target them always.  There is no excuse for the actions and kids should be taught to leave other children alone regardless of the way the LOOK,  ACT, TALK WHO THEIR FAMILIES ARE, WHO THEIR FRIENDS ARE, or HOW MUCH MONEY THEY DON'T MAKE. These are the real issues.  None of theses kids realize the problems the other kids face at home in addition to the problems at school.

 

It's a sad situation and until we educate all Children to not participate in these behavours.

I am sorry to hear you were one of those who was picked on -  I am 66 years old and stil remember being picked  on at school = I wasa late bloomer and was teased ll the time - boys and girls alike called me Sahara = needless to say it is not a new bproblem

 

Now the good news -  I ended up with a career in banking ad retired as a senior VP o a major lending institution in my town and I am proud to say I never revenged myhurt feelings on any of those who teased when they came to me for a loan - It wasn't  really necessary  I graduated frm high school wearing a 36C bra            

 
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October 12, 2007, 2:28 pm PDT

LOST CHILDREN

I am a mother of an 11 year old boy.  I am very concerned that I am raising one of these children.  I feel sorry for all of the familys that go through this the ones that have children hurt or killed and the ones who are going through what my family is going through.  There ARE SIGNS you are raising a monster, but the problem comes when you can not find help for your child to prevent things you know are coming.  I have been trying to get help for my son for 5 years now and we are no closer than we were before.  What will it take for people to open their eyes and help these children before they hurt themselves or anybody else!!!
 
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October 12, 2007, 2:28 pm PDT

2nd big shooting in WI

i live in wisconsin and this is the 2nd big shooting where 6 people were killed. the first one happened in delavan  (where i live ) back in june.  an ex boyfriend went crazy shot is ex-girlfriend their 7 month old twin sons, her sister and her friend then killed himself. he also shot their 2 year old daughter who is the sole survivor. as a person whose town has gone through an ordeal like that i first and foremost want to say my heart goes out to those people in crandon. i didnt know the people that were killed in delavan in june, but it still affects you just the same. (especially when there were babies involved. ) it's something that hits too close to home-literally.  when something like that happens so close to home you get a reality check about the world. you see that on tv but when it happens in your own backyard its just terrifying.

second i want to say that the issue of dometic violence and "family annihilation" is an issue someone needs to bring to light.  especially the "family annihilation" seeing as that happend quite a few times in the United States this summer.  school shootings are on the rise but so are domestic killings.

 

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October 12, 2007, 2:29 pm PDT

10/12 Homecoming Shooting

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I was not going to respond with a comment because people with opinions like yours are the ones who feed the ignorance of others.

Yes, you are permitted an opinion but opinions are like mouths, everyone has one. Just not everyone knows when to keep it shut.

Regulating guns has not made one ounce of difference in how many innocent people are killed by the stupidity of others. It is still happening everyday. There is nothing any one of us can do to change the way things are unless those of us who have children start doing better jobs of parenting and begin teaching our children the difference between right and wrong and  the value of life.  Everything comes down to free will and our ability to make the right decisions. God gave us all the ability to make the "choice". What you "choose" comes from what you are taught growing up. Too many of our children are left alone without supervision, abandoned, or learn from the examples shown by others.

So, I am not  going to take on the responsibility of being my brother's keeper or raise everyone else's child when it is a full time job tending my own family which includes a nine year old and three grandchildren.  Maybe if others tended their own "gardens"  and made sure that they were fed and weeded instead of worrying about everyone elses' then maybe we could start seeing some of the problems being solved before they take root.  Bring the Bible back to your homes/tables and into your children. As it has always been taught, "He is the Way, Truth and the Light".

Opinions are opinions and we are ALL entitled to share one, whether it's agreed upon or not.  You don't have the right to bash opinions you do not agree.  You can disagree all you want, but not with ignorance.  AND, as for gun regulation, is most certainly HAS helped with shootings.  Yes, they still happen every day, but the less that buy a gun on a moment's notice, the less that can use them in violence.  Check your facts.

 
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October 12, 2007, 2:29 pm PDT

So sad

I as many of us are left speechless over the recent murders/killings.

 

 

 I am sorry, but I did not like the advise that this "Pat Brown" gave. I really don't think she gets it. Yes, I know she has a degree, but I still totally disagree with her.

Is there a way to tell when someone goes off the deep end? When they are ready to snap? I don't know.. I know some people that are really unstable that have more control than " normal" people have had in situtions. I don't underdstand the need for all this killing..... so sad. I can not even begin to imagine how these family cope with the pain. I feel so bad for all of them and my prayers are with them.

 
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October 12, 2007, 2:31 pm PDT

Former educator agrees with profiler

 

I am a former educator and I agree with the profiler on todays' show.  You can spot troubled children from pre-k through thre 2nd or 3rd grade.  These are children who receive sub-standard care, are victims of abuse, or borderline abuse, or who have dysfunctional parents or life style of some sort.  These kids experience more disappointments, hurts and frustrations of some manner and by the time they are 12 or 14 they are just plain angry and are tired of their needs not being met.  Children show up to school with no lunch, smelling of dirty body or urine, exhibit non-appropriate-age behaviors, some who have not forged an emotional connection with either parent, or are not cared for somehow.  We've all had these kids in our classrooms.  Something in these kids lives have gone wrong and teachers can spot them.  After so many years of disappointment and stress, someting in these kids breaks.  Teachers are being asked to do more and more in this day and age and it is hard to run interference on the students' behalf when you're already overwhelmed with all you have to be.

The media also must take responsibility in what is on TV, movies, song lyrics, etc.  School prayer has been removed and it has left a vacuum, and violence is filling up the vacuum.

 

 
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October 12, 2007, 2:32 pm PDT

unsafe learning environment

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         My child is in the first year of college at the NSSC Nova Scotia. Lately a student has been screaming obsenities and threatening to kill other students inside the college and during classes in front of teachers and nothing is being said or done. My child, worried, wrote a letter saying simply that they felt it was not a safe learning environment, and could someone please help. Well the teacher copied and e-mailed it to the student making the threats, now my child is afraid of what might happen when they return to school on Monday. Please if you have any advice for us it would be very much appreciated. Thanks

 

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