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Topic : 10/12 Homecoming Shooting

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Created on : Wednesday, October 10, 2007, 10:58:52 am
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Early Sunday morning in Crandon, a small Wisconsin logging town, 20-year-old deputy sheriff Tyler Peterson went on a shooting rampage killing six people and critically wounding another before authorities fatally shot him. A part-time police officer, Peterson fired thirty rounds of ammunition on his ex-girlfriend and a group of friends who had gathered for pizza and movies to celebrate homecoming weekend. Who was Tyler Peterson, and what drove him to murder six people in cold blood? What is the profile of a mass murderer, and does he fit the description? How could Peterson have slipped through the system to become a law enforcement officer, and how do we keep it from happening again? Every day, more than 80 Americans die from gun violence.* From the 1999 Columbine massacre to the nation's deadliest shooting rampage in history at Virginia Tech last April, mass shootings in America continue to draw world scrutiny. Be there when Dr. Phil asks the tough questions. If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is gonna talk about it now! Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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October 12, 2007, 6:41 am CDT

A sick way of solving problems

   It's a sad day in this world when people think the only way to solve a problem is with a gun.  If you want to shoot someone shoot yourself, leave others out of it.  Now a 14 year old hurts others and himself and another teenager has a cache of weapons that his parents help him accumulate and wanted to have another Columbine. 

 
October 12, 2007, 6:44 am CDT

Gun Violence!

My children are all adults and I have nine grandchildren from them. This issue of gun violence has been a worrisome matter for me since my children were in High School. Now more than ever it is of great concern to me because of my grandchildren.

 

What happened in this small town is extremely saddening! Human beings are valuable to our society and have something to donate, whether evil or good. God loves everyone and he wants us to love like he does. It is hard to condemn the shooter who obviously suffered from serious mental issues. It is unbelievable that a deputy could have gotten into such a position as to commit such a crime, but I have seen it here in Chicago repeatedly. Chicago is one of the worst cities for police brutality and execution of it's own citizens. It makes the news all the time but is quickly silenced by the "political machine' that Mayor Dailey has modeled after his father's own "machine." I know this topic isn't about Chicago, but it might as well be because the problem of social disfunctionality is rampant in every American country.

 

I am a gun owner and have belonged to the NRA at one time. Having undergone extensive in gun safety and marksmanship training as a former bodyguard/detective I met many fellow officers whom displayed disturbing behavior with regard to the power the sidearm gave them. This behavior resides in everyone to a degree until you learn to temper it with common sense. Some just don't have that common sense and should not be allowed to carry a gun.

 

The Jena Six is an illustration of one of my major frustrations. No gun was used but a young man could have been killed druing the stomping he received. Cases like this rarely make the "big headlines" yet are more prevalent than gun crimes. People want to throw a fit when a gun is used in a crime but ignore the causes and symptoms that brings individuals to the point of such disasterous actions.

 

My heart goes out to the who community, everyone affected, by this tragedy! My prayers are with them that they will find healing quickly and move forward with their lives.

 
October 12, 2007, 6:45 am CDT

homecoming shooting

 To all the families that suffered a loss, my heart goes out to you. To the police department that was involved, I feel for every officer there. I know, as a former officer that when an incident occurs such as this it works on everyone. When the the incident involves one of your own, regardless of the the circumstances, it digs even deeper. I pray that every officer can spend time in reflection of his or her service and know that you are a valued being in your town and department. Also I pray that though this department may suffer a great deal of scrutiny during time of greivance. Please keep in mind this is a healing process. As for the family of this young man again my heart goes out in prayer for pease and healing. The Lord I serve is a powerful and loving God.  He  is always there  and waiting  for  those in need to  reach out to  him.  For those who read this message and write there own Please remember the town, the pain they are feeling, and how raw the emotion is. you can either lift these people up in prayer and stand with them or express you negativities and make a very bad situation worse. the question you must ask yourself is "what if it was me there, what would I need". Christ said " As I have loved the church, so you should love one another." Lets all try that. Dr. Phil keep up the good work, you are one of my heroes.
 
October 12, 2007, 6:49 am CDT

10/12 Homecoming Shooting

Quote From: ukmike

Here in the UK we do not have the right to bear arms, even Police Officers here do not carry gun routinely. The only officers allowed to carry firearms are highly trained and in Specialist units. I was a Police Dog handler K9 unit, I had no access to firearms.

 

We had an incident in Dunblane Scotland a few year back, a youth who belonged to a gun club opened fire in the local school he killed and injured some children, Our British Tennis star Andy Murray was a pupil at the school and he still shows problems from that time.

 

Our Government banned all citizens from owning guns even if they belonged to gun clubs, There has not been a problem again since. That is not to say that we got rid of the reason why someone would want to carry out such an awful act, I believe the reasons in our society still exist. If you disenfranchise people for long enough they will snap and react as you have seen in your shootings at US schools.

 

So you have at least two things to deal with, Gun ownership and the bigger problem of how individuals are being treated by the community. The later is more difficult because perhaps we do not like to own up to the fact that somehow we are allowing things to happen in our schools like bullying, physically and physiologically. By the fact we focus on the winners and completely sideline those less capable.

 

We do not get the Dr.Phil show live here and I would be interested to hear what the good Dr has to say about the causes and the ways we can end the problems.

 

Dr. Phil talks more sense than any man I know, if he cannot help then what chance do the rest of us stand to solve the problem.

Allow me to comment on this. The International Crime Victims Survey showed that England and Wales ranked second overall in violent crime among industrialized nations. In England 26% of the population had been the victim of violent crime. Australia, who also took guns from its citizens, led the list with 30% of its population being victimized. The US did not even make the list. All types of crime are high in countries where the government has taken the right to carry a gun from its citizens. And who would want to live in a country where the police could not carry guns? I sure wouldn't be bragging about that. And don't get into that tripe about disenfranchised people. These are people who can not handle their anger or some perceived putdown to themselves. One thing that would protect our children is to send all teachers to a top notch gun safety course and teach them practical shooting so that they can stop these shooters before it turns into Columbine or Virginia Tech. An armed teacher at either one of those schools would have saved a lot of lives. The reason the crime rate is low in states that have given their citizens the right to carry a concealed weapon is because the criminals know we are not pushovers like in other countries. If these students knew that the teachers had guns and would not hesitate to protect the kids in their classes, we would see these shootings stop.

 

 
October 12, 2007, 6:55 am CDT

A Show That Matters

As a District of Columbia resident this show on gun violence hits very close to home.  Currently DC has a gun control law which is one of the strongest in the country.  Unfortunately the Supreme Court is currently reviewing this law and might decide to strike it down.  Gun control just makes sense to me.  Glad to see Dr Phil doing this type of show instead of Britanny Spears.
 
October 12, 2007, 7:04 am CDT

THE REAL REASON THESE KIDS ARE DOING THIS

I graduated high school in 1976.  This stuff just didn't happen then.  It was unheard of.  I believe the reason kids are going "ballistic" these days is simple.  Just like drugs, they have access to things we never had. Guns, knives, drugs, alcohol, violent video games - - its all around them.  I think the only solution to tame these out of control kids is to crack down big time.  Parents give into their whims because their children's friends have it all.  They feel guilty if they dont provide them with the latest, newest thing.  I lived without a cell phone and I'm doing just fine.  Parents are handing children things they should not have access too.  And what their parents won't give them, they can find easily on the streets.  I say go back to uniforms in school, no driving off campus for lunch, bring back curfews that are reasonable, and the list can go on and on.  We need to turn to the past way of life in order to control the future.  Morals are out the window.  Kids are depressed because they don't have every single thing their peers had.  They EXPECT a car for their 16th birthday.  Out the window is the notion they need to work to earn it.  It's a sad day.  I was the most "uncool" mom on earth, divorced and left to raise 2 girls on my own with no child support from their dad who could not be located.  My girls were PO'd, would occasionally say "I hate you," etc., when I said no.  But now I have my oldest in medical school and my youngest is married and has a baby on the way with a wonderful husband.  Now they thank me for saying no.  Some of their friends didn't fare so well with their lives, the one's who had it all.  Lets get back to basics.  That's what it's going to take.

 
October 12, 2007, 7:07 am CDT

Homecoming shooting

This is the reason I have such a HATE for guns!!! And this constitutional right everyone complains about I have a right!! Crap, do you not remember when the constitution was written??? Back then it was a wilderness with wild animals and a new land with people who needed protection. It was a different time. People always say guns don't kill people, people kill people!!!!!!!!!!! BALONEY, if they weren't here, there wouldn't be this problem. No one in my family EVER owned a gun and I don't advocate anyone owning one! They are nothing but  problems waiting to happen. To easy to obtain, to easy to use, to easy to kill with. PERIOD. I love your show Dr. Phil I try to watch every day!!!!
 
October 12, 2007, 7:08 am CDT

Homecoming Shooting

Quote From: ukmike

Here in the UK we do not have the right to bear arms, even Police Officers here do not carry gun routinely. The only officers allowed to carry firearms are highly trained and in Specialist units. I was a Police Dog handler K9 unit, I had no access to firearms.

 

We had an incident in Dunblane Scotland a few year back, a youth who belonged to a gun club opened fire in the local school he killed and injured some children, Our British Tennis star Andy Murray was a pupil at the school and he still shows problems from that time.

 

Our Government banned all citizens from owning guns even if they belonged to gun clubs, There has not been a problem again since. That is not to say that we got rid of the reason why someone would want to carry out such an awful act, I believe the reasons in our society still exist. If you disenfranchise people for long enough they will snap and react as you have seen in your shootings at US schools.

 

So you have at least two things to deal with, Gun ownership and the bigger problem of how individuals are being treated by the community. The later is more difficult because perhaps we do not like to own up to the fact that somehow we are allowing things to happen in our schools like bullying, physically and physiologically. By the fact we focus on the winners and completely sideline those less capable.

 

We do not get the Dr.Phil show live here and I would be interested to hear what the good Dr has to say about the causes and the ways we can end the problems.

 

Dr. Phil talks more sense than any man I know, if he cannot help then what chance do the rest of us stand to solve the problem.

They are trying to profile individuals who would commit such crimes. First they tried to say that all had the same type of personality,and then later in the show said they did not.  Obviously the police Dept's can not profile a likely killer, or that is the type  they hire in the US because they would not think twice about killing another human.  (only my opinion.)

 

I think the ban of gun ownership is a solution. Also, banning most police officers from possessing a weapon is an excellent idea.  No matter how guilty an officer is in this area, or what they have done, they make up stories to CYA and every police officer will lie and back him up.  They are never arrested for any crimes  they commit.  One had stolen drugs from his police evidence locker, and was caught by CNET dealing the drugs.  He was taken to his own police agency and told to resign his position, but was never arrested for his criminal actions

 

 

 
October 12, 2007, 7:13 am CDT

homecoming shooting

First I want to send my prays to the families of those who lost their lives and who was injuried.  I can not began to know how it would feel to lose a child and my heartfelt sorrow goes out to you all.  It is another sad day when lives are taken by someone, especially someone who we were suppose to trust. I totally disagree karlagolay  guns  killed those people  a gun was the means of killing those people Tyler Peterson Killed those young people. if he didn't use the gun he would have used something else. a knife perhaps, or a car, maybe he would have burnt them out only God knows what he would have done, so saying Guns killed NO Tyler Killed.  By the sounds of it , he was a jealous man with no self esteem and could not let go of someone who didn;t love him. 

 

 
October 12, 2007, 7:14 am CDT

I am sorry about this

I am sad about this incident. My exhusband was became a police officer. He was a stalker and wife beater. How can they let someone like this become a police officer? This is just not fair. They are supposed to be there to protect and to serve. They are to be screened and not let them slip through the system and hurt others. I am sad for the families of these people and hope that they heal quickly and the police department is not making the same mistake now in hiring their officers. We need good help protecting us. I am sure they are hurting also.
 
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