Topic : Career Goals

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:24:24 am
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Are you stuck in a dead-end job, or do you feel you are on the career path of your dreams? Talk about how to set - and achieve - your goals!

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March 23, 2006, 10:23 am PST

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I have read all the messages that every one has wrote and i am the same in some ways and not the same in others. I set my goals very very high for my self i went to high school and also went to college. just like a lot of people have done. doing what i think i want to do. I know what i want to do but i don't think i have the confidence. That is the bigggest thing I have to work on. I have red and listened to so many many people on how to get my confidence high listening to self help tapes and alll that not working because of alll the stuff i went through in high school and college just like a lot of other kids. Every job i have ever had has told me i need to be more confident some let me stay but a lot let me go. I TRY TO MAKE MY GOALS IN LIFE COME TRUE BUT I AM AT MY WITS END !! I have had a lot of jobs wheere I think i will like it and work and it sucks so bad casue you know the employer is so blind to see what is happeneing and willl alway happen in a work place as in : compatation between employee's, back stabbing, lying, stealing, and many many more i have not meationed. I guess i am just venting in this message for the most part but i am asking for help also i know what people want some times and other times i don't. How can i stay happpy and kepp my morals in tact when every one else is always saying do what is best for yourself and i am not that way i want to make others better also. I am not an angle far from it but i am trying to get better  can someone tell me how do i set goals i can achieve? how can i be more confident? how can i get a job and keep it even though some times i don't like the pay and or the employeee's or what ever the case may be ?
 
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March 23, 2006, 3:42 pm PST

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I have read all the messages that every one has wrote and i am the same in some ways and not the same in others. I set my goals very very high for my self i went to high school and also went to college. just like a lot of people have done. doing what i think i want to do. I know what i want to do but i don't think i have the confidence. That is the bigggest thing I have to work on. I have red and listened to so many many people on how to get my confidence high listening to self help tapes and alll that not working because of alll the stuff i went through in high school and college just like a lot of other kids. Every job i have ever had has told me i need to be more confident some let me stay but a lot let me go. I TRY TO MAKE MY GOALS IN LIFE COME TRUE BUT I AM AT MY WITS END !! I have had a lot of jobs wheere I think i will like it and work and it sucks so bad casue you know the employer is so blind to see what is happeneing and willl alway happen in a work place as in : compatation between employee's, back stabbing, lying, stealing, and many many more i have not meationed. I guess i am just venting in this message for the most part but i am asking for help also i know what people want some times and other times i don't. How can i stay happpy and kepp my morals in tact when every one else is always saying do what is best for yourself and i am not that way i want to make others better also. I am not an angle far from it but i am trying to get better  can someone tell me how do i set goals i can achieve? how can i be more confident? how can i get a job and keep it even though some times i don't like the pay and or the employeee's or what ever the case may be ?

Why??? don't you have confidence - has anybody told you that your wothless to any degree??? 

  

Confidence I feel to a large part is what is inside of you and how you view the world.  Why are employers so blind to what's going on, because they are trying to run a business and don't take the time to find out how their business is operated until something goes wrong - and then the employees will cover their own backs and the weaker ones will not stand up for themselves. 

  

I know and you know that YOU are good at something.  If your afraid at receiving a No from people, 

I get that all the time - do you think that I let that bother me - NO! 

  

AS Phil says YOU have to be your own best friend. 

 
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March 31, 2006, 8:24 am PST

Lost after college

I guess I should just start at the begining. I had my first son the week I turned 17. I finished high school and went to college. I have always gotten very good grades. I graduated college with a BS inbiology and chemistry. 

  

I had started off as a pre-med, but realized that I don't want to go to medical school. In the meantime, I have student loans to pay off and children to support. SO, I have had a series of secretarial and factory type jobs. I always go to work with a positive attitude and I try to never even let people I wok with know how educated I am. But it always comes out. And then people act like Everything I say is an insult and I end up being fired. 

  

Entry-level positions for a biologist are few and far between. I am working on teacher certification and subing a few days a month, but that won't pay all my bills.  

  

I guess I just want to hear thought on why people are so threatened by me?  I may have a degree, but then when I ask how a particular peice of equipment works, or how to do something, they get snotty.  

  

my way of dealing with bed co-workers is to basically kill them with kindness and to not be a complainer, but then I get told that "People" have complained about me and called me rude. 

  

How is a person supposed to modify their behavoir if they are not told it is bad until they are beign shown the door? How am Isupposed to support my children if theis keeps happening? 

 
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March 31, 2006, 9:09 am PST

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Unfortunately, I believe the business world has taken a nose-dive over the past 15-20 years.   

  

If employers (managers) were smart, they would realize that cultivating a healthy work culture with employees -- coaching instead of barking, running interference for employees when they face obstacles to their work, and most importantly, helping to promote a career path for their employees can only help the manager in the long-run.  I have been a manager of employees and have done everything within my power to help them propel and succeed.  And hey, some of them have surpassed me in their careers.  I feel so proud and not at all resentful.  Maybe it means that I did something right as a manager.  Growing (mentoring) an employee is the greatest accomplishment that a manager can achieve. 

  

I think that many managers are so protective of their territory that they do whatever is in their power to keep their employees down in the dirt.  This only hurts the manager.  When the employee is successful, the manager is successful.  Tom Peters . . . where did you go????  (Read "In Search of Excellence",  "Passion for Excellence", and "Thriving on Chaos".) 

  

 
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March 31, 2006, 9:46 am PST

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Ya ain't gonna like this but - your line 'I still have my military work ethic' tells me why you are probably 

being fired.  There is a World of Diferrence between military life and civilian life.  You've got to remember that a lot of civilians don't go for that military stuff, or chain of command. 

  

I for one do and don't believe in a chain of command - if I don't get results from my immediate - you 

better believe I'm going to the top.   

  

I do agree showing initative and making decisions irks some companies because a lot have this 

team player mentality that says everyone must agree or nobody goes forward and to do so - how dare you!!! 

Being in the world of work is like walking a tightrope.  We are all different people.   

  

I've worked at four different institutions (three companies and one major university) over a period of 30 years.  I've had 19 different job descriptions of escalating responsibility, worked for 25 different managers, supervised 22 employees, and  with have had over 1,000 direct co-workers. My first company was two years, my second was 19 years, my third was 3 years, my fourth was 6 years.  In my last two positions, over that period of time I have supervised a total of 22 employees.  So, I guess what I'm trying to say, with regards to this, is that I didn't just fall off the turnip truck yesterday. 

  

The one thing that I believe has helped me "climb the ladder" so-to-speak is that the feedback I have always received from so many people is that I'm "easy to get along with" and "everyone likes you", "you are the calm voice of reason through all the insanity".  This feedback has come from my managers, co-workers, as well as employees that I have had report to me.   (I'm an INFJ for anyone familiar with the Meyers-Briggs.)   Okay, done bragging. 

  

Sure, I've had my share of problem managers, co-workers, and workplace bullies (but only a handful compared to the number of people that I've worked with).  When I've had to, I would agree to disagree with people.   I've tried to stay true to myself while realizing that there are so many individual personalities in the workplace, many agendas, many injustices, and lots of politicking.  But I've found that if I try to stay on the high road and keep my attitude on an even keel, concentrate on doing a good job, produce results, it does pay off in the long run.  In the end, it's the paycheck. 

 
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March 31, 2006, 5:21 pm PST

Will you hire me?

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Unfortunately, I believe the business world has taken a nose-dive over the past 15-20 years.   

  

If employers (managers) were smart, they would realize that cultivating a healthy work culture with employees -- coaching instead of barking, running interference for employees when they face obstacles to their work, and most importantly, helping to promote a career path for their employees can only help the manager in the long-run.  I have been a manager of employees and have done everything within my power to help them propel and succeed.  And hey, some of them have surpassed me in their careers.  I feel so proud and not at all resentful.  Maybe it means that I did something right as a manager.  Growing (mentoring) an employee is the greatest accomplishment that a manager can achieve. 

  

I think that many managers are so protective of their territory that they do whatever is in their power to keep their employees down in the dirt.  This only hurts the manager.  When the employee is successful, the manager is successful.  Tom Peters . . . where did you go????  (Read "In Search of Excellence",  "Passion for Excellence", and "Thriving on Chaos".) 

  

I have to commend you on your insight into effective management in the workplace! I had to work directly under the Director of Sales who managed a team of back-stabbing, underminers who could not spell team work if they tried! I felt like the only serious-minded, concerned employee there, working among immature-mean spirited unprofessional people. Everyone was so protective of themselves without seeing the big picture, and the department suffered because of it. I always thought a smart leader will make leaders out of subordinates, but I guess the thought of that scared her a bit. Now, I stay home with babies, but when I go back to work, I HOPE my future boss will be just like you!  :)
 
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March 31, 2006, 7:46 pm PST

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I have to commend you on your insight into effective management in the workplace! I had to work directly under the Director of Sales who managed a team of back-stabbing, underminers who could not spell team work if they tried! I felt like the only serious-minded, concerned employee there, working among immature-mean spirited unprofessional people. Everyone was so protective of themselves without seeing the big picture, and the department suffered because of it. I always thought a smart leader will make leaders out of subordinates, but I guess the thought of that scared her a bit. Now, I stay home with babies, but when I go back to work, I HOPE my future boss will be just like you!  :)

Thank you so much for the kind words.  I appreciate your feedback.   

  

I have to say, that I learned effective leadership techniques over a number of years from some extremely wonderful managers that I had worked with and for.  Those were the best years of my life.  Those leaders gave me opportunities that were well beyond my job descriptions and trusted me to sprout my wings and fly.  They let me take on special projects, they allowed me to attend special training opportunities, and encouranged me to go beyond what I thought were my limitations.  They enabled my sense of self-esteem and self-worth.   I will be eternally grateful to each and every one of them.  I don't think they even know who they are, let alone how much I appreciate their coaching, mentoring, and guidance, so my thinking has been to 'pay it forward' when I gained management responsibilities of my own and just try to give a little bit of that back to the people I supervised.  I'd like to think I thanked those great bosses of mine along the way, but I don't even know if I did it enough. 

  

Things changed (as always) and my work situations evolved over a period of time.  So I have been able to measure the contrast between a healthy work environment and a not-so-healthy work environment. 

  

And, of course, you can be with me on the team any day.   If you go back into the work world, I hope you will have a better deal than what you left.  I wish you all the best.  You deserve it.  Just don't let anyone bring you down.   

 
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March 31, 2006, 8:00 pm PST

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Hi

 

I know this is slightly off the topic of career goals, but it as close to my question as I could find.

 

For me to ask my question first I need to give a little background. When I left school I worked in a few casual jobs until I was employed Full time for about four and a half years. In that time I had my son and chose not to go back to work. After a few months of being an at home mum I realised that I am the type of person who needs to be busy or I go nuts and clean everything. So I went back to work. I left that job a few weeks ago because it was completely unsatisfying and my boss wasn't a nice person.

 

Anyway I have had arrange of jobs from cashier, to cleaner, to day care even the defence force and I still don't know what I want to do. I must add that I am only 25.

 

I have this feeling of wanting to go somewhere, I just have no idea where that somewhere is.

 

Anyone have suggestions on finding/changing career?

 

Thanks

Natalie

I notice this posting is from July, and don't know if you're on the board these days.  But a very good resource is a book called "What Color Is Your Parachute?"  This is a very structured and comprehensive guide to job searching and career changing strategies.  It is by Richard Bolles and updated each year. 
 
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March 31, 2006, 8:04 pm PST

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Why is it that no managers are posting on this board giving their perspective?? 

 
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April 1, 2006, 4:24 pm PST

pending...

 I thought this was a good show and topic, there's so many angles to this, lifestyle, habitat, work and social values; the drive, motivation, determination, ambition..., we're all different individuals, unique in our abilities, and to figure this out so to fit into the economic structure, and carry through in our daily lives, would be a convenience for everyone. :)
 

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