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You've read the headlines, now watch the story about a crime so heinous some would rather see the suspect dead than in jail. The manhunt for the nation's most wanted alleged pedophile ended last night as fugitive Chester Stiles, accused in the videotaped molestation of a three-year-old girl, was arrested outside Las Vegas. Stiles had been wanted since October 5 on warrants issued for 21 felony charges in connection with acts seen on the videotape. Could you spot a child predator? Is your family at risk? Be there when Dr. Phil tells you the warning signs to watch for -- you'll be shocked! Plus, the reported victim's mother breaks her silence in an exclusive interview with Dr. Phil. Then, hear what Stiles' ex-girlfriend's son has to say, and what the victim remembers about the attack. If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is going to deal with it now! Don't miss this breaking news Dr. Phil Now. Join the discussion.

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October 17, 2007, 6:08 pm PDT

Teach your children

 Coming from NZ, this is the first that I have heard of this man, but he looked so young  and in my mind a predator is a older man. Its amazing how we can stereo-type when sexual predators come in all shapes and sizes, colours, race and religion. It is so disgusting to know that  a grown adult (male or female) can do inappropriate acts  on children. But could you spot a sexual predator? I know I wouldn't be able to!!!!!!

I think they only way to protect your family is to ,teach your children about good and bad touching, not keeping secrets from mummy or daddy, let your children know that they can tell you anything it won't make you love them any less. They need to know that you will always be there for them no matter what. 
 
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THIS IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!

                 I FEEL SO TERRIBLE FOR THIS LITTLE GIRL. SHE WAS SO YOUNG AND IT IS SO SAD IT HAD TO HAPPEN TO HER.    I FEEL LIKE THIS MOTHER HAD TO SEE SOME CHANGES IN HER LITTLE GIRL OR SHE WAS TO WRAPPED UP IN HER LIFE AS A SINGLE MOTHER TO CARE.

                    I WAS IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD BUT IT WAS MY MOTHERS BOYFRIENDS AND A NEIGHBOR.  I TOLD MY MOTHER AND MY BEHAVIOR GOT OUTRAGOUS. MY MOTHER DID NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT SHE WAS SO WRAPPED UP IN HER LIFE WITH THESE GUYS AND DRUGS AND ALCHOLE  THAT I DID NOT MATTER. I WAS BUT INTO FOSTER CARE ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER. I WENT THROUGH SOME THEARPY AND HAD A NORMAL TEENAGE LIFE WITH MY FOSTER PARENTS. I OF THE GUYS I WAS ABLE TO PUT INTO PRISON FOR 3 YEARS BUT THE OTHER ONES GOT AWAY WITH IT.  BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS THAT NOW I AM 23 AND NOW I AM STRUGGLING I AM MARRIED AND HAVE A LIL GIRL OF MY OWN. BUT I DO NOT FEEL THE SAME SEXUALLY WITH MY HUSBAND AS I THINK I SHOULD. CERTIAN TIMES OF THE YEAR ARE HARDER FOR ME. I DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WITH MY DAUGHTER. 

                SO EVEN THOUGH THE LIL GIRLS MOTHER SAYS SHE DOESN'T REMEBER. THIS THING THAT HAPPENED WILL HAUNT HER LATER ON. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU NEVER GET OVER. ITS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD. 

 

               ALL THE MEN THAT DID THIS TO ME ARE ABLE TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE WHY?  WHEN ITS SO DIFFICULT FOR ME!!!    I JUST HOPE THIS LIL GIRL GETS ALL THE HELP SHE CAN BECAUSE SHE WILL NEED IT!!!!  ITS  NOT SOMETHING U FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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October 17, 2007, 6:17 pm PDT

Sexual Assault accusations are used as leverage in custody disputes

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 Molestation is a horrible crime. It involves innocent children the majority of the time and emotions are run very bitter towards the sex offender with good reason. I wonder if anyone actually is aware all the statistics surrounding this epidemic? It amazes me how much the media leaves out or will flat out refuse to report. Is it fear it will take away from the importance of the undisputed cases? What I am talking about is the amount of cases that are reported that are actually not child abuse cases. Just as there seems to be an epidemic of molestation, there is also a large number of this offense being used in divorce to gain leverage and custody. What is even more horrible is that the children and the accused spouse go through unimaginable hardships and pain. Mentally both may never recover. Financially, if you don't have $100,000 or more for your defense. You might as well plea no contest. Because of the emotion surrounding this issue, almost everyone judges and convicts the accused, before due process. These cases are always with out DNA evidence, or other crucial evidence to prove without a doubt the event actually occurred. The accusing spouse or in-law's get off scott free even in the event the case is dropped. The focus by officials is always on the accused. Once accused the individual will be watched and suspected for life. To prove malice takes years if ever. By that time the kids are grown and coached to a point they don't know what is real. Politicians and the media jump on the band wagon, because it means votes and money. At what point do you infringe on the innocent to get the guilty? No longer is the old quote from years past: "It is better to let ten go free than to wrongly imprison one innocent person." Today it seems to be the opposite.
OH, YES! This is so true and it's often a consideration law enforcement is faced with. I have been a detective on the receiving end of cases like this and it requires diligent investigation. In the past year I have dealt with about 35 sexual assault complaints. Most of them are initiated by mandated reporters to the child protection agency. Only 3 of those cases stemmed from a report by one of the child's parents against the other. In one of those cases the investigation went on for about a year. During that time the father was denied any visitation with his 4 year old daughter. The father was cooperative, despite the council of his attorney, and waived his rights and provided a statement. He also agreed to a polygraph test. The mother and step father had been trying to take the girl out of the country and the father refused to give permission. It was strongly believed that the reason for the complaint, which was "touching her vagina," was for the mother to get sole custody and be able to go and do whatever they wanted to do. The controlling personality of the step-father and his over involvement with the investigation raised doubts about the validity of the complaint. The 4 yr. old did not disclose to a professional interviewer but weeks later reportedly disclosed to a therapist. The brevity of the disclosure made it appear that the child may have been coached. The daycare providers, who spent more time with the 4 yr. old than any of the parents, all stated they never suspected any abuse and said she was always excited to go with her father but was defiant towards her mother and step-father. The lie detector test indicated he did not tell the truth. When he was questioned further he repeated what he had said from the beginning, that he put cream on her because she was itchy and red.  I believed him and sensed that he didn't molest his daughter.There wasn't any tangible evidence of abuse and the testimony of the daycare providers was in direct opposition to what the mother and step-father were saying. I spoke to the prosecutor and told him about. the case and it was determined that there wasn't sufficient evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a crime had been committed so a warrant was not approved. This case in another investigators hands could have easily gone the other way. Meanwhile the father has had to pay for his attorney, lost visitation rights, and his daughter has probably been turned against him by the mother and step-father. He is now fighting in court to get visitation restored. This is going to be a long battle and the father got the short stick but it could have been even worse.
 
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October 17, 2007, 6:19 pm PDT

10/17 Sexual Predators?

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This person is less than a beast.  when are they lawyers and judges and law makers ever going to hang these people high?  I can not think of a worse offense perpatrated on any human being, no matter how old they are.  These kinds can not and never have been rehabilated and let loose in our world ever!!!!!

 

I personally feel we should buy an island in the middle of the pacific ocean, put all these types there and give them 30 days of food, no boats, no nothing and tell them good luck.  At lease we would never have to worry about who they would hurt next.  Cruel and inhumane--not on your life compared to what they have done to innocent people.

Yes- but- another would come and rescue them. I think they should go to la la land- pills and a video show of mountains or something as they go to sleep -never to awaken. I saw a movie that had something like that in it !
 
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October 17, 2007, 6:28 pm PDT

oh yes

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                 I FEEL SO TERRIBLE FOR THIS LITTLE GIRL. SHE WAS SO YOUNG AND IT IS SO SAD IT HAD TO HAPPEN TO HER.    I FEEL LIKE THIS MOTHER HAD TO SEE SOME CHANGES IN HER LITTLE GIRL OR SHE WAS TO WRAPPED UP IN HER LIFE AS A SINGLE MOTHER TO CARE.

                    I WAS IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHEN I WAS 12 YEARS OLD BUT IT WAS MY MOTHERS BOYFRIENDS AND A NEIGHBOR.  I TOLD MY MOTHER AND MY BEHAVIOR GOT OUTRAGOUS. MY MOTHER DID NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IT SHE WAS SO WRAPPED UP IN HER LIFE WITH THESE GUYS AND DRUGS AND ALCHOLE  THAT I DID NOT MATTER. I WAS BUT INTO FOSTER CARE ABOUT TWO YEARS LATER. I WENT THROUGH SOME THEARPY AND HAD A NORMAL TEENAGE LIFE WITH MY FOSTER PARENTS. I OF THE GUYS I WAS ABLE TO PUT INTO PRISON FOR 3 YEARS BUT THE OTHER ONES GOT AWAY WITH IT.  BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS IS THAT NOW I AM 23 AND NOW I AM STRUGGLING I AM MARRIED AND HAVE A LIL GIRL OF MY OWN. BUT I DO NOT FEEL THE SAME SEXUALLY WITH MY HUSBAND AS I THINK I SHOULD. CERTIAN TIMES OF THE YEAR ARE HARDER FOR ME. I DO NOT TRUST ANYONE WITH MY DAUGHTER. 

                SO EVEN THOUGH THE LIL GIRLS MOTHER SAYS SHE DOESN'T REMEBER. THIS THING THAT HAPPENED WILL HAUNT HER LATER ON. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU NEVER GET OVER. ITS ALWAYS IN THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD. 

 

               ALL THE MEN THAT DID THIS TO ME ARE ABLE TO LIVE A NORMAL LIFE WHY?  WHEN ITS SO DIFFICULT FOR ME!!!    I JUST HOPE THIS LIL GIRL GETS ALL THE HELP SHE CAN BECAUSE SHE WILL NEED IT!!!!  ITS  NOT SOMETHING U FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Many children never "recover". Ever. A person I know well requested divorce to get away from a battering husband- who was also "into" sodomizing his daughters as babies- and more- and bestiality etc. You name it.

 

She lost custody and the traumatized children were given to their abuser. They rarely ever saw their mother again(he didn't want- of course-) They are now mentally ill adults. Into crimes- like pyromania-setting houses on fire. The damage these criminals do is incalculable. I mean the sexual abusers-

 

Our women's prisons have an very high percentage of abuse victims. I wonder when our society will wake up- or do our "leaders" really want to - wake up - - - -
 
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October 17, 2007, 6:35 pm PDT

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OH, YES! This is so true and it's often a consideration law enforcement is faced with. I have been a detective on the receiving end of cases like this and it requires diligent investigation. In the past year I have dealt with about 35 sexual assault complaints. Most of them are initiated by mandated reporters to the child protection agency. Only 3 of those cases stemmed from a report by one of the child's parents against the other. In one of those cases the investigation went on for about a year. During that time the father was denied any visitation with his 4 year old daughter. The father was cooperative, despite the council of his attorney, and waived his rights and provided a statement. He also agreed to a polygraph test. The mother and step father had been trying to take the girl out of the country and the father refused to give permission. It was strongly believed that the reason for the complaint, which was "touching her vagina," was for the mother to get sole custody and be able to go and do whatever they wanted to do. The controlling personality of the step-father and his over involvement with the investigation raised doubts about the validity of the complaint. The 4 yr. old did not disclose to a professional interviewer but weeks later reportedly disclosed to a therapist. The brevity of the disclosure made it appear that the child may have been coached. The daycare providers, who spent more time with the 4 yr. old than any of the parents, all stated they never suspected any abuse and said she was always excited to go with her father but was defiant towards her mother and step-father. The lie detector test indicated he did not tell the truth. When he was questioned further he repeated what he had said from the beginning, that he put cream on her because she was itchy and red.  I believed him and sensed that he didn't molest his daughter.There wasn't any tangible evidence of abuse and the testimony of the daycare providers was in direct opposition to what the mother and step-father were saying. I spoke to the prosecutor and told him about. the case and it was determined that there wasn't sufficient evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a crime had been committed so a warrant was not approved. This case in another investigators hands could have easily gone the other way. Meanwhile the father has had to pay for his attorney, lost visitation rights, and his daughter has probably been turned against him by the mother and step-father. He is now fighting in court to get visitation restored. This is going to be a long battle and the father got the short stick but it could have been even worse.

Keep to the subject at hand this dog VIDEOTAPED his sleezy self molesting this child. There are so many sexual predators on this earth it makes me sick. And you know what. THEY ALL DENY IT GIVE ME A BREAK.
 
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October 17, 2007, 6:42 pm PDT

Teaching your children

At the time that each of my children started preschool, I taught each one what the "NO ZONE" was.

I made sure that they understood that noone was allowed to touch their "No Zone".

I explained that if those areas were hurt or bothering them in any way that they were to tell me or their father. I then explained that only my husband, the doctor, and I have permission to touch that area and only when something was wrong. We have had numerous discussions regarding how people could attempt to lie or threaten them to touch them inappropriately. I made sure that they understood that their father and I were scared of noone. My children are now 17, 15, and 12. Thankfully, none of them has ever had anyone attempt to violate them in any way. I was extremely picky about who watched them and who was allowed near them. As demonstrated by this man's horrific abuse to this innocent child, you can never be too careful. God bless her and help her mom to cope with helping her child to heal if future trauma arises because of this situation.
 
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October 17, 2007, 6:44 pm PDT

Doctor Phil Show

Doctor Phil Predat Sexual Tors. Well Well Well here we go again. 01. Fender Sex 02. Predators Sexual.-----

What next?  A Alarm clock to tell you if there is Predators Sexual in your area? Come on Doctor Phil we------

all know that. That is whay we have a Watch Dog online in United State of America. See you on October 18-

th, 2007. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:05 pm PDT

One of the few!

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In my 30 years in law enforcement, investigating sexual assaults and working with child protective services, there have been relatively few innocent people investigated. Many people would like to categorize violations on a continuum from very bad to a little bad but wrong is wrong no matter what the violation is. The eye is focused in a particular persons direction because someone makes a report. Don't blame the professionals for doing their jobs. I'm sure they'd all like to only investigate or handle  the most heinous cases but the truth is intervention also needs to be focused on the little problems before they become bigger.
 I'm sure that is what you believe, and you should be comended if you were actually an objective investigator. In my experience DHR and the justice system had one goal. Convictions was above justice in that they acted like horses with blinders on or a train on a track. Take your pick. By your comments you lead one to believe there is no honor in keeping inocent free. Would prefer to jail 10 innocent for one guilty? By experience I have one up. As I do know the truth, but yet here I am living proof. Law inforcement kept valuable information secret to get me jailed, when they had evidence of the Uncle abusing my Daughter. They also failed to check into other leads of evidence given to them by family. What kind of invegestigator does not check all leads? When you think you are doing society a favor, you end up creating huge injustices, by acting too soon. All under the assumption in the childs best intrest. Tell me is is in the childs best intrest, by acting too fast? How many lives are destroyed then? Unlike other crimes where there second chances, once charged as a sex offender it is a life sentence. Even if the case is droped or you beat it. The stigma stays with you and doubt is all around of your innocence.
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:15 pm PDT

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At the time that each of my children started preschool, I taught each one what the "NO ZONE" was.

I made sure that they understood that noone was allowed to touch their "No Zone".

I explained that if those areas were hurt or bothering them in any way that they were to tell me or their father. I then explained that only my husband, the doctor, and I have permission to touch that area and only when something was wrong. We have had numerous discussions regarding how people could attempt to lie or threaten them to touch them inappropriately. I made sure that they understood that their father and I were scared of noone. My children are now 17, 15, and 12. Thankfully, none of them has ever had anyone attempt to violate them in any way. I was extremely picky about who watched them and who was allowed near them. As demonstrated by this man's horrific abuse to this innocent child, you can never be too careful. God bless her and help her mom to cope with helping her child to heal if future trauma arises because of this situation.

 If a father washes his 2 year old's privates, is it any different than the mother doing it? How does a youngster know the difference and not confussed? A little coaching by DHR, teachers, or a vindictive spouse planning on divorce is all it takes. What is this world comming too, when a Father has to be afraid to take care of his child for fear of mixed signals a child has from being taught something they completely don't understand. There goes the innocence. Parents need to be parents and be very observant , but do they have a choice when a school official teaches them something, that is totally off base?
 
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