Topic : 10/17 Sexual Predators?

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Created on : Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 03:42:12 pm
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You've read the headlines, now watch the story about a crime so heinous some would rather see the suspect dead than in jail. The manhunt for the nation's most wanted alleged pedophile ended last night as fugitive Chester Stiles, accused in the videotaped molestation of a three-year-old girl, was arrested outside Las Vegas. Stiles had been wanted since October 5 on warrants issued for 21 felony charges in connection with acts seen on the videotape. Could you spot a child predator? Is your family at risk? Be there when Dr. Phil tells you the warning signs to watch for -- you'll be shocked! Plus, the reported victim's mother breaks her silence in an exclusive interview with Dr. Phil. Then, hear what Stiles' ex-girlfriend's son has to say, and what the victim remembers about the attack. If it's happening now, Dr. Phil is going to deal with it now! Don't miss this breaking news Dr. Phil Now. Join the discussion.

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October 17, 2007, 7:24 pm PDT

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This time he was stupid enough to to prove to the world what he is and what he did on VIDEO! Doesn't seem to me to be any false accusation here! DUH!
That was a little harsh I think. She was just saying that sometimes people can be wrongly accused. I know I have been on both sides of that fence. I was sexually abused when i was a child and was wrongly accused of sexually abusing my own kids. I agree that since this person did video tape himself doing this there is no issue of doubt. But I do believe you could have been a little less harsh in your response to her.
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:25 pm PDT

Long Fight

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OH, YES! This is so true and it's often a consideration law enforcement is faced with. I have been a detective on the receiving end of cases like this and it requires diligent investigation. In the past year I have dealt with about 35 sexual assault complaints. Most of them are initiated by mandated reporters to the child protection agency. Only 3 of those cases stemmed from a report by one of the child's parents against the other. In one of those cases the investigation went on for about a year. During that time the father was denied any visitation with his 4 year old daughter. The father was cooperative, despite the council of his attorney, and waived his rights and provided a statement. He also agreed to a polygraph test. The mother and step father had been trying to take the girl out of the country and the father refused to give permission. It was strongly believed that the reason for the complaint, which was "touching her vagina," was for the mother to get sole custody and be able to go and do whatever they wanted to do. The controlling personality of the step-father and his over involvement with the investigation raised doubts about the validity of the complaint. The 4 yr. old did not disclose to a professional interviewer but weeks later reportedly disclosed to a therapist. The brevity of the disclosure made it appear that the child may have been coached. The daycare providers, who spent more time with the 4 yr. old than any of the parents, all stated they never suspected any abuse and said she was always excited to go with her father but was defiant towards her mother and step-father. The lie detector test indicated he did not tell the truth. When he was questioned further he repeated what he had said from the beginning, that he put cream on her because she was itchy and red.  I believed him and sensed that he didn't molest his daughter.There wasn't any tangible evidence of abuse and the testimony of the daycare providers was in direct opposition to what the mother and step-father were saying. I spoke to the prosecutor and told him about. the case and it was determined that there wasn't sufficient evidence to prove beyond reasonable doubt that a crime had been committed so a warrant was not approved. This case in another investigators hands could have easily gone the other way. Meanwhile the father has had to pay for his attorney, lost visitation rights, and his daughter has probably been turned against him by the mother and step-father. He is now fighting in court to get visitation restored. This is going to be a long battle and the father got the short stick but it could have been even worse.
 That is an understatement. I've been there and done that. He will drain all his capitol and get bits and peices of visitation, while his children age. they will be grown, by the time he gets anywhere and the mother will have them so coached the child will be brain washed. Lets hope he has better luck than I did.
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:32 pm PDT

Media gone hay wire!

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I think that some of the shows lately have turned into John Walsh type programs.  I think it would be good to not get too close to that type of program.
 All the media attention prohibits anyone charged with such a crime to fair judgement. The public is like a rabid dog. Please people, in your analisis don' t for get due process and objectivity with an open mind, before convicting. The media dosn't tell you much about theones that are wrongfully convicted. It is a nightmare equal to the horror of the crime you are so enraged about.
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:35 pm PDT

Yes it can happen to you!

I feel so sorry for this little girl if she ever remembers what happened to her. Children are always  manipulated in some way and don't no better. Thank GOD this devil is off the street.
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:36 pm PDT

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Without wanting to make light of what happened..

why do you discriminate and claim that women never do this?

 

Recently, in Belgium, a woman tennis teacher was arrested for seducing a 13 year old in a lesbian relationship. And, im thinking that this is a tip of the proverbial iceberg.

 

So, please, dont insinuate that women never do this.

Idiots, criminals and evil people are not limited to one race, gender, religion or ideology - sadly.

 

As scary as it maybe to thin about this subject it is not just men.  I watched a program on MSNBC INVESTIGATES, it was about this little girl who was raped several times through out her childhood by her own mother and step father.  The excuse that the mother had came up with for not only allowing it to happen but actually participating in it was, "  i wanted him to know how much i loved him, i wanted to prove i would do anything for him"  How frightening is that.  Here is the worst of all.  She was sentenced to a womens prision in that episode they gave statistics that were out of an all womens prison 36% of the women were locked up for sexual assult of a minor that is a large percent of women in out society........

 
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October 17, 2007, 7:36 pm PDT

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Doctor Phil Predat Sexual Tors. Well Well Well here we go again. 01. Fender Sex 02. Predators Sexual.-----

What next?  A Alarm clock to tell you if there is Predators Sexual in your area? Come on Doctor Phil we------

all know that. That is whay we have a Watch Dog online in United State of America. See you on October 18-

th, 2007. Sincerley Your. Russell Vlaanderen.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i hate to break it to you but not all convicted sex predators are on that watchdog online site.  I know this first hand because my uncle was convicted of molesting three of his children and got out of jail a few years back and guess what he s not on the sex offenders list cuz i looked it up and hes not there.

 

I beleive we can use all the advice...warning signs we can get because like dr phil stated that most predators are ppl we know not strangers!!!!!!!!

 

 

And to reply to those whom are stating well he was abused himself.....

 

I dont think we should sit here and let predators use the fact that they were once abused as an excuse for hurting someone else.  Not everyone who has been abused turns around and abuses others.  Sometimes yes but not always.  People need to start being accountable for their OWN ACTIONS

 

I also believe and truly believe that pornagraphy plays a huge role in sexual abuse crimes....the predators more than not...have a problem with pornography being addicted to it and then go on from there.

 

 

 
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October 17, 2007, 7:40 pm PDT

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That little girl is in my prayers.  The only good thing that has developed from this all is THANK GOD HER MEMORY HAS FAILED TO REMEMBER THIS GRAPHIC MATTER.  Its hard to imagine what in the hell someone must tell themself to climb on top of a baby and take something so precious and their dignity their self esteem their flower that is suppose to be one of the first big decission that a child turning into an adult  must make how pathetic can someone be
 
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October 17, 2007, 7:46 pm PDT

Dr. Phil Show

The mother's words stuck in my head. I'm a single mother ,when my daughter was 4 I found out a guy I was dating as fondling my daughter. It was some one I thought I could trust. And I blamed myself. How could I let this happen to my daughter. If I won't have brought him into my home she would have been safe. And how could I trust my judgement again. I quite dating after that my daughter is my life. I won't let this happen again.
 
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October 17, 2007, 8:01 pm PDT

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Quote From: jeanhppy

I'm not sure a sane person will ever understand what drives an adult to take sexual pleasure with a child--to be sexually attracted to babies.  It's not something we can comprehend.  Whether it's a sickness/mental illness or just a disgusting perversion, these people must be held accountable.  Speaking as an adult survivor of child sexual abuse, I can say with the utmost confidence, that this poor child will be haunted by this her entire life.  I was assaulted at the same age, but it continued for 8 years.  I am now 53 and still battling the demons.  I pray that baby gets the help she needs.
i feel really bad for that baby and i hope that dude who Raped that little girl dies painfully   
 

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October 17, 2007, 8:11 pm PDT

To the family, do you really KNOW he's innocent?

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Your Honor,

One of the most sacred principles in the American Criminal Justice System is the "Presumption of Innocence," holding that a defendant is innocent until proven guilty, and that the prosecution must prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" every element of a crime charged. The criminal justice system rest on this premise, that it is better to release ten guilty people rather than convict one innocent person. The system is very much designed to prevent the government from wrongly taking away a persons liberty.

Yet in todays society, we are faced with the media telling us about our children being sexually assaulted on an almost daily basis. We, as parents, must do whatever it takes to protect our children! When you read the paper or watch the news, and a child has been molested, the first thing people often think is, "that person is guilty! No trial is needed." The news media seemingly declared Robert guilty upon arrest. The day Robert  was found guilty of these charges was another day our judicial system failed!

  

The jurors, persons from our society, found Robert guilty without looking at the only reliable evidence presented in the case, the medical evidence. The jury told the DA and Mr. Smith, Roberts attorney, that they based their verdicts on the testimony of two girls and did not look at the physical evidence. Yet, this medical evidence clearly shows that Robert did not sexually assault these girls. Furthermore, the two do not show any signs of emotional trauma that is associated with being a victim of sexual abuse at a young age.

How can an unbiased, rational jury do this? A mans life is at stake! Again, the physical evidence is the only reliable, unimpeachable evidence presented in such a case. How can it be ignored when a person is facing life in prison? The medical evidence shows that Robert did not sexually assault these girls. The DA presented pictures of their hymens. These pictures show both girls with intact hymens. I have attached pictures from a Pediatrics and Adolescent Gynecology medical book. Please take a moment and compare the two in the case file with the copy attached. If a grown man penetrates a little girl or a girl at any age, over 100 to 200 or more times in less than a year, as alleged, it would be physically impossible to have a hymen that looks like the ones presented in this case. This alone would prove Robert did not commit these heinous crimes. Sir, in light of such evidence, how could a jury return a verdict of guilty and put Robert in prison?

 

 The physical evidence should be enough, but other statements made by each girl would put doubt in the mind of any reasonable person. When B was cross-examined and asked what time of day it was that Robert would do this, she repeatedly said, "it was daytime." They left for Georgia in April 2002, so between October 2001 and April 2002 it was Daylight Savings Time. Robert was at work until after 5pm.

In addition, B said, "I was told I was raped," not, "I was raped," or a description of what she remembers, but she was told this happened to her. The truth came out when both girls said, "I did not bleed." It was obvious no one said to B that when a six year old is being fully penetrated in the vagina and r over 100 times, that it is inevitable there will be blood. J, too, stated that she was penetrated in the vagina and at times in the r, "every day or every other day" for almost a year, making it as many times as 200 or more being fully penetrated, and she stated that she did not bleed. The mothers of each girl also testified they had no idea anything was wrong, and they never saw any blood on their underwear. The girls never mentioned a word to anyone until one of the children did not want to return to California and the other girl had a bad dream. If this is not enough to put reasonable doubt in a reasonable, unbiased persons mind, let me continue with other facts presented during the trial.

 

 The taped interview played for the jurors during the trial of J and Detective W was suggestive and leading. The first thing she said during the initial interview was, (verbatim) "I dont think actual sex, like, happened." Detective W ignored the statement, and continued interviewing J. J had nothing spontaneous to say about her experience because it never happened and she did not know what to say. So, Detective W took it upon himself to suggest the positions that occurred, and J only had to say "yes he did that too" and "oh, yeah that was done." She even used a word the detective used first on the tape, the word spooning. That was in the first sentence out of her mouth at the preliminary hearing. J said, "We were spooning." Your Honor, I have to ask how many fifteen year olds use the word spooning? Furthermore, as I said, the detective used the word first. This clearly shows how a child can be lead in a testimony, in a court of law, even though sworn to tell the truth. The incident when Robert and J went to pick up the compact discs from the apartment, referred to first in the preliminary hearing she said, "Robert was behind me and inserted his p all the way in." At the trial she said, "Robert was on top of me." All of these small details add up to the conclusion that these events never happened.

Your honor, please, I am begging you, as you have the final say in this case, you are the only one who can correct this verdict. Your decision can correct the injustice that has happened to an innocent man. Robert is not capable of harming anyone, especially a child! If you take a little time sir, and talk to Robert, you will know he is a caring and loving person who could not do such a heinous crime. Sending Robert to prison is wrong. Your Honor, if this were a person close to you in the same position Robert is in, would you look at the case differently?

Were the things presented to the jury proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a mans condemnation? Sir, you have the final decision and Roberts life; it is in your hands. I am begging you to overturn the jurys verdicts. It may not make you the most popular judge in the publics view, but it will make you the fairest and most honest judge in San Diego County. Thank you for your time spent specifically for Roberts case.

On behalf of the Family,

Respectfully,

Stephanie

You have certainly presented the other side of the situation well. I do not know the case at all so I'm in no position to make any judgment. All I can say is I know you truly believe and support the accused. Some times people who are too close to the situation have clouded vision and can only interpret the information from one perspective. You may be right and you may be wrong.

 

I am a detective who investigates sexual assault cases. I can not tell you how many times I have had proof that the accused did violate the law , did a search warrant, executed the search and found more evidence, and STILL had friends and/ or family telling me they "KNEW" this person and there is no way he did what you are saying he did.

 

In one of my cases the accused was a pediatric nurse practitioner, an active member of the local Democratic party, a practicing Jew, an active Army Reserves commander, and appeared to be an outstanding citizen who lived in an affluent area.  A Psychiatrist (a mandated reporter) filed a report stating a 13 year old male reported he was sexually assaulted by this aforementioned man. I spoke to the mother (a widow) and the boy and was told that this man befriended this boy over a 2 year period and everything the boy reported fit the pedophile profile.

 

At age 11 the boy was referred to this nurse practitioner by the insurance company to be his primary care provider when he had Lyme disease so bad he was confined to a wheelchair. Shortly after that his father died of cancer. The mother was from another country and only knew her in-laws here so they moved in with them. She went out to work and eventually was able to afford a place of her own. The accused offered to be a male role model for the boy and the stressed mother gladly accepted the offer from this man to take her son out and do father son activities with him. He gradually approached the boy sexually and started with just appropriate touches. He spoke to the boy about maturing and had a sex talk with him. He then showed him a movie, under the disguise of it being educational. He talked about heterosexual, bisexual, and homosexual relationships. He talked about feeling and what outlets there were for releasing sexual tension. One thing led to another and he ended up having the boy spending weekends with him. He treated the boy very well, gave him gifts and money and showed him a good time. He'd tell him that their discussions and what they did were between men and said he probably shouldn't tell his mother or she might not let them spend as much time together. He never told because the accused made what he was doing with the boy seem to be "normal" sexual exploration for a 13 year old boy. The boy liked the man. The mother was then diagnosed with cancer and her doctor told her to put her affairs in order because she did not have long to live. She asked the accused to be his guardian.  It was after this she started noticing that her son was being called excessively by this man and the man was pushing her to hurry up and get the papers in order. She questioned her son on numerous occasions about what the man and he were doing but he never disclosed their intimate contacts. The mother said she just had a mother's intuition and knew something was wrong. One day she asked the boy if the man was in love with him and the boy's response was "I think so." She took him to the doctor where he disclosed the sexual abuse.  

 

On the boy's statement a search warrant for the man's home and an arrest warrant for the man were signed and executed. The man's computer was seized and turned over to the FBI for possible pornography involving juveniles. A locked foot locker was seized and contained porno, NAMBLA (Ntl. Assoc. of Man Boy Love Assn.) magazines, copies of sexual assault statutes, sex toys, and paperwork and newspaper articles from 4 other incidents where he was accused of sexually assaulting boys in 3 other states. One ended in a hung jury, one sued him instead of taking it to a criminal court, one took a deal (cash settlement) and didn't press charges. The FBI prosecuted him on federal charges first and he took a plea bargain and got a mandatory 10 years in jail without parole. The state prosecuted and again a plea bargain was accepted and he got 20 years to run concurrently with his other time. This means he got 10 years and an additional 10 years but is eligible for parole in the last 10 years. My experience is that he will probably get out, with "good time" in 12-15 years.  Of course he will be a registered sex offender but it still seems like a slap on the hand for what he did. I took it upon myself to find out what states he had licenses to practice as a nurse practitioner and then went about getting the information out that would lead to his licenses being revoked.  He had 3 licenses all have been revoked. His life as he once knew it is over. He won't have a profession to work at, he will be in his 60's before he gets out of jail, and....once he does get out the Army can court martial him.

 

The physician he worked directly with, his Rabbi, and his family all said he was innocent and didn't do these terrible things. I believe justice was done.

 

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