Topic : Workplace Bullies

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:25:23 am
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Bullying is not just a schoolyard pastime anymore, it has spread to the workplace as well. Share your stories, support and advice with others dealing with a bully at work.

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January 29, 2006, 12:31 pm PST

oh the anger

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I know just what you went through.  I went through intense anger for 10 years about it.  What really gets you is that you can't do anything about it.  You like to think justice will win out, but in the workplace, it doesn't.  I had given everything of myself for my career, which was my dream that I had worked so hard to accomplish, and to have it all unraveled by one lying sophomoric girl and two stupid inflated-ego men was just too much for me.  I actually was diagnosed with posttraumatic stress syndrome, and it lasted 10 years. During that time, I isolated myself and couldn't have anything to do with anyone connected to my career, and worst of all, I couldn't bear to listen to my favorite music.  I snapped out of it finally when I read my journals I'd kept for years.  It took that to remind me who I am and how far I came.  But it has had a lasting effect on me just knowing that at any time, one liar can take your life away from you and there's nothing you can do about it.

Yea, that anger brewing inside is horrid. I tried to figure out a way to do something about the injustice of it all, and clear the bad name my former boss had given me with everyone, but I eventually stopped thinking about it all the time. It's amazing how the Board members just followed along with the BS she was telling them. They were saying things like "she knew she was going to get the boot" ( I didn't know, Charlie, if I had known I would have caused trouble before I left)  and "if I was there I would have told her......" blah blah blah. I confronted the board member who said that, she was also my hairdresser, and she said she didn't say those things, she wasn't at the meeting....LIES LIES LIES! Of course I'm still angry, I just have made a new life for myself and don't take the time to dwell on it much. They are all on my "F*** 'em List" now anyway....people I don't want to waste my energy on anymore. I can sure understand 10 years of anger like that would cause poasttraumatic stress syndrome! It's so true that one liar can take your life away from you and there's nothing you can do about it. I'm having a hard time trusting even my husband now, is he telling me the truth? I don't know. 

 
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January 30, 2006, 4:33 am PST

path of least resistance

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Yea, that anger brewing inside is horrid. I tried to figure out a way to do something about the injustice of it all, and clear the bad name my former boss had given me with everyone, but I eventually stopped thinking about it all the time. It's amazing how the Board members just followed along with the BS she was telling them. They were saying things like "she knew she was going to get the boot" ( I didn't know, Charlie, if I had known I would have caused trouble before I left)  and "if I was there I would have told her......" blah blah blah. I confronted the board member who said that, she was also my hairdresser, and she said she didn't say those things, she wasn't at the meeting....LIES LIES LIES! Of course I'm still angry, I just have made a new life for myself and don't take the time to dwell on it much. They are all on my "F*** 'em List" now anyway....people I don't want to waste my energy on anymore. I can sure understand 10 years of anger like that would cause poasttraumatic stress syndrome! It's so true that one liar can take your life away from you and there's nothing you can do about it. I'm having a hard time trusting even my husband now, is he telling me the truth? I don't know. 

Hi again.  i've come to believe that co-workers will tend to take the path of leas resistance, and that is why , even if deep down inside they support us, they are not going to verbalize it.  Maybe they fear they will become the next target (and with some of these psycho bosses that is a very real possibility).  it is sad that that is the way of things.  If everyone were brave enough to band together, maybe there could be more justice in the workplace.   

I too felt the anger that you are talking about.  You want to make things right, you want justice, you want the people who caused the trouble to be exposed and to be ousted.  Well, I may not have made things right when I left that job I described in a previous messsage, but I left making alot of noise.  I reported alot of stuff that had gone on (and of course got blackballed out of the next job I applied for when I was given a reference full of lies by my former boss.  I had to threaten legal action to get her to stop the blackballing)  I too felt that I never really got the justice that I deserved.  In the end the only thing I could do was move on and gradually recoup my floundering self-esteem.  I did get another job fairly quickly  and I remember having a feeling of liberation that I could just do my job and not have to walk on eggshells and worry that everything I did and said would be twisted by some psychopathic boss. My new boss quickly realized what a good worker I was, and while she wasn't privy to many details of my former job, she did say it was 'their loss our gain". 

i think you need to take care of yourself, do what you need to to get back your self-esteem.  Don't transfer the lack of trust for those people to your husband. Eventually your strong feelings will fade. You will never totally forget, but it won't be at the forefront of your mind. 

 
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January 30, 2006, 4:45 am PST

important to recognize if you've been gaslighted

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I knew I had heard of that situation before...gaslight...that's it! I thought of that so often while I was working there...before my boss went away on vacation, she bought 10 binders with dividers and told me they were to do up reference binders for the Board of Directors. She even told me the topics she wanted listed on the dividers and I wrote them down. I set them up while she was on vacation, but when she came back and I told her they were done, she said that's not what the binders were for! I asked her what they were for, and she just said "never mind, don't worry about it".  Another time we spent quite a bit of time looking for a file. It was one of my feeling crazy moments wondering where I had put it....turned out she had mislabeled it...I had filed it properly according to the way she labelled it. Wow, I'm glad I'm outta there.

It is good if you recognize that you've been gaslighted......otherwise you feel like you are in the Twilight Zone. This type of boss will do everything he or she can to twist things, lie and make YOU believe that something is wrong with YOU! They can wreak havoc on your self-esteem. But if you recognize what they are doing you have more control over the situation, atleast in the way you internalize it. It is a shame that some really sick people get into high positions where they abuse their power and make others suffer. I will never again work for someone like that-I think I would be pretty quick to pick up on someone with those characteristics at this point, and I would run for the hills! 

 
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January 30, 2006, 9:02 am PST

Unfair Treatment at Work

 Dr. Phil,

I apparently am a hard person to like.  My most recent problem at work was after staff voted in a union and the Executive Director resigned and the Financial Manager was appointed as Executive Director.  The new Executive Director is related to three other staff in our south county office and is personal friends with three other staff also in the south county office.  After the union was voted in, my position was eliminated and if I wanted to continue to be employed, I would have to travel to our north county office which is 45 miles from my home.  This was bad enough, but a fourth personal friend of the Executive Director's accused me of harassment.  I was not able to defend myself or tell my side of the story.  It was just assumed that this employee was correct (she had worked for the agency for two years, I had worked for the agency for five years).  So, in addition to being transferred to our north county office, I was given a written reprimand in my personnel file for 18 months.  I was the gossip of this Executive Director's family I knew because not only was I treated rudely by one of the nieces, the 9 year old son of the Executive Director came through the lab while I was working and stated to his older brother "Is that the Wanda that they are talking about?"  His brother rushed him through.  Now another position the same as mine in north county came open, and because we have a union I was offered the position in south county at the same pay.  The Employee Handbook had been revised and now harassment was added as a charge, at the Executive Director's discretion to termination.  I could not feel comfortable working in the south county office, because I would be setting myself up and since I have a prior conviction of harassment, I would be terminated at the Executive Director's discretion.  So, I declined the position and signed a paper that stated that I had declined the position and was going to continue working in the north county office at the same pay rate.  That is hard enough for me, has caused me great depression and hurt.  But that was not enough.  They advertised this position with a pay scale of $10.46 to $13.06 per hour depending on experience.  I have been making $11.00 an hour for the last three years working this same position.  Now, the Executive Director can bring in another friend or family member at a higher scale that what I have been working at, and I am expected to train this new employee.  It has caused me great depression and worry because I haven't been able to pay my bills and now I put out an additional $150 a month on gas to commute to the north county office.  Of course I feel much more appreciated in the north county office, but I really can't afford to be up there and I can't afford to be in the south county office either, because then I would be fired and have no job.

Dr. Phil, can you help me?

Wanda
 
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February 4, 2006, 12:55 am PST

When your pay depends on your bully

I have been working part time for this company for a few years.  They have great pay, but your supervisor also determines how many hours they are paying you thru piecework.  That's where the problem starts because his idea of a completed piece is much different than what is in the company handbook.  It wouldn't be so bad, but my enitre year's daily wages is determined by a small window (usually a month) of the lowest production.  I have been told some of the same things others have been told and even threatened with job loss if I questioned his knowledge of the handbook. He also talks bad about others when they aren't there and lies telling us to just think positively!. Instead it is demoralizing.Even though it is a part time, I am expected to go to work at the drop of a phone call.  I have sacrificed a lot to keep this job in hopes of getting a full time position by not accepting other part time offers because of the stand by status of this job. A job is still a job in this economic market but is this really worth it?
 
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February 4, 2006, 5:20 pm PST

Mindless Minion Opinion

I have an MSEE (master's degree in electrical engineering) and I work for one of the giants of the defense industry. I have been here for 4.7 years and my job has been to modify documents and spreadsheets, run errands, search the Internet for electronics and/or software, enter information in an archaic database, modify schematics and generally do what no one else wants to do. I believe a high school graduate would be overqualified for my job. I am capable of so much more, but never given the opportunity.

  

 

  

 

When I ask for more challenging assignments, I feel like I get punished. Once, I ended up working for a man who claimed that "my degrees meant nothing and that I was no better than a database entry operator". Most recently, I ended up responsible for fixing broken hardware, but with no physical means to troubleshoot. With no diagnostics, I was told to simply guess what needed to be fixed. Needless to say, the hardware is still broken and there is now a permanent record of my perceived incompetence.

  

 

  

 

Yesterday, I got upset (to the point where I finally really want to find another job) when an employee who has a successful job troubleshooting hardware failed to deliver a document on time and it's now my job to modify yet another document! I generally feel like I don't matter. When am I going to ever get any relevant work experience? I was told that my problem is that I want the world to be fair. I think it’s morally reprehensible to commit an unjust act, and then justify it by claiming that the world is unfair.  If my promotions, raises and future assignments are based on how I rank when compared to my peers, is it not at least unethical that my I get assignments with much less technical merit that my peers do?

  

 

  

 

I try to talk to the other employees about my dilemma, but they think things are the way they should be.  I tried talking to my friends and family, but most see being "paid so well, to do such menial tasks" as the "ride of a lifetime".  My issue is that the "world’s oldest profession" is the only profession where I see it as even being conceivable to justify being well paid as the best part.  I want to work as an engineer.  I think that most people with an advanced degree (scientists, doctors, lawyers, professors, etc.) have a passion for their respective profession where the true compensation is the satisfaction felt after a hard day’s work.  Am I being naive?

  

 

  

 

I am starting to think that I was only hired because as one of the few minority females with an advanced technical degree, I satisfy some sort of EEO quota.  But, it is a double-edged sword because as a minority female, I feel I am then viewed as not being capable or deserving of more than the most menial of tasks because my degrees were not earned but received as some sort of consolation prize.

  

 

  

 

Sometimes I think I should be patient and eventually I will get a chance to show this company what I'm really worth. But, then I question how I will ever get that opportunity when my core skill set is being proficient at Microsoft Word!?

  

 

  

 

My greatest fear is if I leave this company, I will face the same sort of problem somewhere else because this is the real world.  Is this discrimination or simply the luck of the draw at a huge corporation? What do you think? Are dreams only for kids?  What do I put on my resume since I’ve had so little technical experience?  Should I find a job in another field due to the fact that as a minority female, I may never have a equal chance to succeed as an engineer?

  

 

  

 
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February 16, 2006, 4:05 pm PST

Workplace Bullies

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I have an MSEE (master's degree in electrical engineering) and I work for one of the giants of the defense industry. I have been here for 4.7 years and my job has been to modify documents and spreadsheets, run errands, search the Internet for electronics and/or software, enter information in an archaic database, modify schematics and generally do what no one else wants to do. I believe a high school graduate would be overqualified for my job. I am capable of so much more, but never given the opportunity.

  

 

  

 

When I ask for more challenging assignments, I feel like I get punished. Once, I ended up working for a man who claimed that "my degrees meant nothing and that I was no better than a database entry operator". Most recently, I ended up responsible for fixing broken hardware, but with no physical means to troubleshoot. With no diagnostics, I was told to simply guess what needed to be fixed. Needless to say, the hardware is still broken and there is now a permanent record of my perceived incompetence.

  

 

  

 

Yesterday, I got upset (to the point where I finally really want to find another job) when an employee who has a successful job troubleshooting hardware failed to deliver a document on time and it's now my job to modify yet another document! I generally feel like I don't matter. When am I going to ever get any relevant work experience? I was told that my problem is that I want the world to be fair. I think it’s morally reprehensible to commit an unjust act, and then justify it by claiming that the world is unfair.  If my promotions, raises and future assignments are based on how I rank when compared to my peers, is it not at least unethical that my I get assignments with much less technical merit that my peers do?

  

 

  

 

I try to talk to the other employees about my dilemma, but they think things are the way they should be.  I tried talking to my friends and family, but most see being "paid so well, to do such menial tasks" as the "ride of a lifetime".  My issue is that the "world’s oldest profession" is the only profession where I see it as even being conceivable to justify being well paid as the best part.  I want to work as an engineer.  I think that most people with an advanced degree (scientists, doctors, lawyers, professors, etc.) have a passion for their respective profession where the true compensation is the satisfaction felt after a hard day’s work.  Am I being naive?

  

 

  

 

I am starting to think that I was only hired because as one of the few minority females with an advanced technical degree, I satisfy some sort of EEO quota.  But, it is a double-edged sword because as a minority female, I feel I am then viewed as not being capable or deserving of more than the most menial of tasks because my degrees were not earned but received as some sort of consolation prize.

  

 

  

 

Sometimes I think I should be patient and eventually I will get a chance to show this company what I'm really worth. But, then I question how I will ever get that opportunity when my core skill set is being proficient at Microsoft Word!?

  

 

  

 

My greatest fear is if I leave this company, I will face the same sort of problem somewhere else because this is the real world.  Is this discrimination or simply the luck of the draw at a huge corporation? What do you think? Are dreams only for kids?  What do I put on my resume since I’ve had so little technical experience?  Should I find a job in another field due to the fact that as a minority female, I may never have a equal chance to succeed as an engineer?

  

 

  

I'm sorry to hear that you're having such a tough time,  but honestly, I think you need to be proactive - you've tried to do this at work by asking for more important tasks, but now it's time to take some further action... I don't know about America, but the most of the rest of the world is literally screaming for talent and skilled labour - I wouldn't continue to put up with this kind of nonsense, and find another job.
 
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February 18, 2006, 6:18 am PST

healthcare bullies

In one of these posts someone was surprised that there would be bullying in healthcare. Well I've been a nurse for a loooong time and believe me there is a saying, "nurses eat their young" Yes that is so true, and not only their young, they eat the old ones too. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone, obviously there are a lot of really nice nurses, however a lot of them are bitches, believe me. The hardest part of being a nurse is having to put up with workplace bullying. Just a few days ago I was bullied to the point of tears, this happens at least once a month, and I am not an emotionally unbalanced person either. I guess nurses have so much responsibility, but very little authority, so they get stressed, so they take their stress out on each other. The thing is, management shouldn't allow it, but they do. Often it's the managers who are the meanest of all. Ever see the movie "Mean Girls" , a picnic in the park compared to most health care settings. I would never advise anyone to go into nursing, unless you have really thick skin.
 
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February 18, 2006, 6:51 am PST

Workplace Bullies

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In one of these posts someone was surprised that there would be bullying in healthcare. Well I've been a nurse for a loooong time and believe me there is a saying, "nurses eat their young" Yes that is so true, and not only their young, they eat the old ones too. Of course this doesn't apply to everyone, obviously there are a lot of really nice nurses, however a lot of them are bitches, believe me. The hardest part of being a nurse is having to put up with workplace bullying. Just a few days ago I was bullied to the point of tears, this happens at least once a month, and I am not an emotionally unbalanced person either. I guess nurses have so much responsibility, but very little authority, so they get stressed, so they take their stress out on each other. The thing is, management shouldn't allow it, but they do. Often it's the managers who are the meanest of all. Ever see the movie "Mean Girls" , a picnic in the park compared to most health care settings. I would never advise anyone to go into nursing, unless you have really thick skin.
Scary, but this is also very pervasive in the field of education.  Especially in the public schools.  It is frightening that the same people we entrust with our children can be malicious to the extreme.  I have seen this firsthand. Yes, "Mean Girls" would be a cakewalk compared to this too!
 
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March 2, 2006, 1:26 am PST

How can I find out?

I had been bullied at my work place until I was requested by my supervisor for my resignation. After I was approved my unemployment, I filled a complaintant with department of labor. For several months now I've been looking for employment, but have not had any luck. This is the first time I haven't been able to get another job quickly. I was woundering if my last supervisor had written or lied to my protential new employees about me. How can one find out what your past employeer(s) say about you on a potential new job reference?  

 

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