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Bullying is not just a schoolyard pastime anymore, it has spread to the workplace as well. Share your stories, support and advice with others dealing with a bully at work.

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October 27, 2006, 1:25 pm PDT

Workplace Bullies

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Wow!!  I could have written that except I'm a guy.  I'm out sick from work because of the stress she put me under.  She has such a low self esteem she feels the need to bring others down to make her look good.  Good luck in finding that better job.  I'm sure you'll be fine
 
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October 27, 2006, 1:28 pm PDT

stick to your rights

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 i have never been a bully or have i been bullied but i have defended kids and poeple who have been . let the bullie know your not a target move along
 
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December 1, 2006, 6:49 pm PST

Stress at work

I worked in an elementary school for 12 years running the computer lab. Last year July 2005 the principal cut my hours from 6 to 3. She ignored my union contract and the fact that I had seniority. I told her that but she insisted she followed the contract. My union rep encouraged me to file a grievance. He didn't go talk to her as per my contract. It took her 4 months to set up the grievance meeting (also a violation of my contract).  Finally 6 months later, I got my hours back. She gave me a crazy schedule that I followed for 3 weeks and  then I injjured my leg on the job. I have been off on this worker's comp injury for almost a year. I went back for 2 months in June/July and my leg got worse. She didn't follow the doctor's restrictions. When I couldn't walk she gave me rooms at the farthest place on the campus. When I could walk but couldn't sit, she gave me more sitting and the rooms that the doctor wanted me to go to when I couldn't walk too far. Since I've been off, I sent my resume to several schools. Two of them called me to come to an interview and then called back a couple of hours later to cancel. I think she is bad mouthing me to other principals. I have a worker's comp doctor, lawyer and a union rep and no one can do anything for me.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

BJ

 
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December 16, 2006, 11:31 am PST

Protecting my Staff

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I work in a group home with clients with disabilities.

My supervisor hired her daughter n law to this home.  She puts me to train her daughter n law, which she should be training new hires to begin with.  I find out 5 minutes before my shift starts, that I was working with her daughter n law.  The shift i work, is the busiest shift of the day. 

I got anxious when I found out that I was suppose to train her.  The supervisor told us staff that 2 fully trained staff would work and when a new hire was being trained, that new trained to be staff would just observe what the 2 trained staff are doing.

Well, didnt happen that way. 

I got written up for having this new hire pass meds, which i was not suppose to let her do. 

And, then this daughter n law goes back to my supervisor, which is her mother n law and tells her that I said a bunch of stuff that I did not say.

A few days later other staff that I work with found a paper written up on me that said that I wasnt suppose to let her pass meds and that I was rude and said awful things to this person. 

A month has passed and the supervisor has not yet confronted me about the situation on what her daughter n law had said about me. 

I now find out that her daughter n law is being trained in another home in the same company and has rumors going around in that house, that me and another staff on my shift will be getting fired.

Am I suppose to ignore all this. 

Its got me and other staff on pins and needles at work now.

And neither me or the other staff don't understand any of this.  Why we would be fired.

We have not been confronted or anything. 

Is this right?  I'm totally confused on this matter.

 And gossiping is totally out in the homes.  Do you think our supervisor is setting us staff up.  If we go to her and tell her about what her daughter n law is saying about us.  We will get written up from her, for gossiping.

Hope someone has some good advice for me out their.

 

I was working in a group home as an Assistant Administrator.  Yes, the things that go on in Healthcare are serious. We are paid to take care of these people with disabilities. Sometime we have to make quick decisions and we pay for our wrong judgments. Yes, I was "Fired" for protecting the person that gave meds the morning before; I called in a relief staff person to cover a.m. shift so that I would not have to work a 12 hour day. This person came in for me and was willing to pass the a.m. meds. She calls me up to tell me that the med count was off on 3 medications. I told her to give the a.m. meds and I will be in later to go over the drug audit sheets to check the count. Yes, the count was off.  Someone the day before must not have given the med.  No one would have known, if this one certain person who was mad at me, (over heard what happened) and reported me to Management. I did not deny what I did. I told the truth!

 

This person that turned me in, was mad at me for not apologizing to her for something I said; (She told everyone she wanted an apology from me) I told her no. (This made her turn on me the next day) reported that I destroyed the 3 meds (not controlled meds).

 

Yes, I have seen so much that goes on in group homes, I can say that.; "I tried my hardest to keep my staff that I worked with happy and to always keep my clients; clean, fed, and happy". I always gave it my very best.  I felt that my clients should be treated like I would want to be treated and that was the way I supervised". I never made my staff do anything that I would not do.

 

SETTING STAFF UP: Is so common in the group homes, it happens when a "click" does not like a fellow staff member --they get you good.  Sometimes Managers help the staff set up an employee.

 

The Agencies that run these group homes have the largest turn over of employees. This makes it very hard on the clients due to the fact that the clients are comfortable with a staff person and then they leave them. Anyone doing this type of work knows that people with special needs are people that follow routines in their life. If you should change their routine, they become very upset or violent and may even injure themselves.  These Agencies hire people that just want to do the job for the money and there is no bonding with the clients at all.  I always treated my clients like my children, I felt close to them. I still miss them very much and hope they can be happy.

 

Gossiping is one of the worst offences that can happy in a single group home. The ones that start the gossiping are the ones working at setting someone up. This is one of the ways and powers of evil that goes on.  The other is "lying” no will confess that they made a mistake, or did any thing wrong, because management has such strict rules, it forces staff to lie to protect their job. Other times management can be very lax in rules for some and again strict with others. So we have sets rules for some and another set of rules for others.

 

My suggestion to you is switch to another house, or start looking for other employment, because your feelings maybe telling you something! "Go with your feelings"  I didn't and I got fired.

 

 

 
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December 19, 2006, 4:22 am PST

Workplace Bullies

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I was working in a group home as an Assistant Administrator.  Yes, the things that go on in Healthcare are serious. We are paid to take care of these people with disabilities. Sometime we have to make quick decisions and we pay for our wrong judgments. Yes, I was "Fired" for protecting the person that gave meds the morning before; I called in a relief staff person to cover a.m. shift so that I would not have to work a 12 hour day. This person came in for me and was willing to pass the a.m. meds. She calls me up to tell me that the med count was off on 3 medications. I told her to give the a.m. meds and I will be in later to go over the drug audit sheets to check the count. Yes, the count was off.  Someone the day before must not have given the med.  No one would have known, if this one certain person who was mad at me, (over heard what happened) and reported me to Management. I did not deny what I did. I told the truth!

 

This person that turned me in, was mad at me for not apologizing to her for something I said; (She told everyone she wanted an apology from me) I told her no. (This made her turn on me the next day) reported that I destroyed the 3 meds (not controlled meds).

 

Yes, I have seen so much that goes on in group homes, I can say that.; "I tried my hardest to keep my staff that I worked with happy and to always keep my clients; clean, fed, and happy". I always gave it my very best.  I felt that my clients should be treated like I would want to be treated and that was the way I supervised". I never made my staff do anything that I would not do.

 

SETTING STAFF UP: Is so common in the group homes, it happens when a "click" does not like a fellow staff member --they get you good.  Sometimes Managers help the staff set up an employee.

 

The Agencies that run these group homes have the largest turn over of employees. This makes it very hard on the clients due to the fact that the clients are comfortable with a staff person and then they leave them. Anyone doing this type of work knows that people with special needs are people that follow routines in their life. If you should change their routine, they become very upset or violent and may even injure themselves.  These Agencies hire people that just want to do the job for the money and there is no bonding with the clients at all.  I always treated my clients like my children, I felt close to them. I still miss them very much and hope they can be happy.

 

Gossiping is one of the worst offences that can happy in a single group home. The ones that start the gossiping are the ones working at setting someone up. This is one of the ways and powers of evil that goes on.  The other is "lying no will confess that they made a mistake, or did any thing wrong, because management has such strict rules, it forces staff to lie to protect their job. Other times management can be very lax in rules for some and again strict with others. So we have sets rules for some and another set of rules for others.

 

My suggestion to you is switch to another house, or start looking for other employment, because your feelings maybe telling you something! "Go with your feelings"  I didn't and I got fired.

 

 

This stuff goes on all the time in schools too.  I know what you mean about supervisors "setting the staff up".  If a supervisor doesn't like a particular person, he or she manipulates the staff to reject that person andsometimes to help their own agenda they encourage staff members to "spy" on a person and even to make up stories.  What is the payoff for these staff members?? They feel that they are getting in good with the supervisor, and perhaps the supervisor does give them certain priviledges too in exchange for helping to bulid a case against someone. It happens all the time all over the place. I don't know what the solution is. Sometimes the best thing is to just find another job instead of becoming more and more frustrated in a no-win situation.
 

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December 24, 2006, 4:44 am PST

Self-Loathing/ Controlling Bully

I was in a workplace bullying situation several months ago.  What I came to realize about this individual is that he was self-loathing, manipulative, controlling, and a know-it-all. I started to get fed up with his work habits and I started to argue back with him.  Well what I figured out is that it is probably the worst thing to argue with a self-loathing individual because they are the kind of people who like to place blame on others and if you argue with them they will see themselves as the victim and you as the perpetrator and they will hold whatever issue you have with them against you.  I ended up yelling at my bully and almost getting into a physical altercation with him because he just wouldn't leave me alone.  After this incident, I walked out on the job.  I realize now that walking out on the job was probably the worse thing that I could have done because it gave the bully ample oppurtunity to say whatever he wanted to about me to other employees and people in management.

 

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December 24, 2006, 5:14 am PST

I wrote a letter like this...

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I'm going to share with you a letter that I wrote complaining about a bully.  I'm changing all the names.  Now, this was a big company with proper rules in place to deal with this sort of thing, but it all depends on who you have to report to.  The person I wrote the letter to was then my supervisor, and I can tell you he was not happy I wrote it and didn't follow up to tell me what, if anything, would be done.  Me and my partner, who is the one I call Andy, tape-recorded the meeting with him, also.  You should know that one thing that made me so mad about this Rainman incident was that my partner Andy actually was sort of slow, so there wasn't one thing funny about the bully's comments.  While my supervisor did as little as possible and no changes were made, he soon left the company and as fate would have it, the bully's supervisor became my boss.  I believe it was at that time that something was done about it, but I was never sure why, if he just then saw the complaint or if he met me and knew I wasn't a wingnut.  At any rate, they kept the Bully away from me entirely for a full year and I believe they probably sent him to anger management, because he never hardly spoke with me again, which was fine with me.  They didn't, however, fire him, which is stupid.  Anyway, the letter is self explanatory. 

  

Dear Supervisor, 

  

 

          I have a serious problem with Technician "Napoleon Complex" which I think you should know about since it undoubtedly either has affected other first-line staff or will affect them in the future. 

          I remember that during our training, you told us that basically the technicians were not under your control and to be nice to them.  That is why I haven’t spoken up until now about this problem, but I feel must say something now because I don’t think anyone should be expected to put up with this sort of behavior.  I can’t imagine why a respectable institution such as Bank Delux has tolerated his behavior this long. 

          To sum it up, Napoleon has an anger-management problem.  He frequently gets very angry and yells loudly at myself and my partner Andy.  During his yelling episodes, he gets up in your face, makes very insulting comments in a nonhumorous tone, slams things around,  goes on prolonged personal philosophical tirades about “harnassing the power,” and sometimes outright lies.  If you don’t bow down right away and hang your head in submission, his tirade escalates.  After the first couple of episodes of this behavior, I made some discreet inquiries and found out that Napoleon has a reputation for his anger and was told that his anger has turned to violence in the past.  His bad temper is common knowledge. 

A few weeks ago, Napoleon was showing us how to do something, and as he lectured while we stood quietly listening, his anger escalated until he was yelling and waving his arms around and finally said in a very nasty tone, “I guess I’m going to have to get a chalk board and draw you two a picture.”  We were fairly new at that point and admittedly didn’t  know everything.  However, I remember his nasty insult coming out of the blue, unprovoked by any physical or verbal action on our part.  It was just the comment that ended his tirade, and I felt that we had very little to do with it at all.   

Napoleon routinely yells that he has shown us a certain procedure before.  Sometimes he has, and sometimes he hasn’t at all.  I will say that when Napoleon is “explaining” procedures while yelling and displaying his anger and hurling insults, it is very difficult to concentrate on what he’s saying because his behavior is so overwhelming and out of context compared to the subject matter. 

April 5, we arrived at #111 on a printer default.  Upon arrival, I noticed that one of the printer covers was lying loose in the machine, as well as two of the four screws from the printer head cover.  We worked on clearing the jam and got it to run a few receipts, but it broke again, at which time we disassembled it, put it back together and tried it again; but it still jammed.  We cleared the jams again, put the printer mask back on as a last-ditch effort, knowing it would probably not stay, and then I went inside the branch to answer a page.  When I returned, Andy had tried to run the printer and it was again jammed up and Napoleon had arrived to work on another machine inside the branch.   

I told him about the printer cover and screws being off.  He told us we knocked it off and that’s why the machine was jamming.  I told him that wasn’t true, that it was off when we arrived (and of course, the machine was already jamming before we were paged out on it, so it was a ridiculous accusation anyway).  Napoleon went on an at least 30-minute tirade about us not knowing how to clear a printer jam.  He went through the steps again, yelling the entire time.  He forbade me to agree with him as he was yelling by saying “uh-huh,” “okay,” or “right,” which I was only doing to let him know I was listening, like anyone would do, and also in hopes that knowing I was listening would calm him down.  He made a lot of personally insulting remarks about my saying “okay” and “right,” such as “See, your partner here is standing there nodding her head and saying yeah, okay, but she’s obviously not listening because I’ve shown you both how to do this a million times.”  Then, still yelling, he launched into what can only be called a strange philosophical tirade about harnassing power, which seemed basically to serve to illustrate that he had harnassed it and we hadn’t.  As I say, this episode went on for quite some time.  At some point during his loud critique of our abilities, he referred to us as “Rainman,”  the idiot savant from the movie “Rainman.”  It was not done in a joking tone.  It was in the context of  “y’all stand there like Rainman…” 

During this incident, I simply stood quietly and agreed with him when possible and until I was told to quit and had offered the information about the printer cover and screws.  When he said we had broken the printer by knocking off the printer cover, I did tell him that was not true.  Andy was very quiet. 

During Napoleon's “demonstration,” he did not do anything to the printer that we hadn’t done prior to his arrival, although there’s no contest that he did it better and faster.  Afterwards, I phoned to put us in travel for our next call.  Napoleon told us to stay there and help him work on the machine inside.  About 30 minutes later, while we were working on it, 111’s printer jammed again and Napoleon's Toadie [a different tech who sucked up to Napoleon arrived to work on it.  Napoleon told Toadie that I had gone and knocked the printer cover off after me twice telling him it was like that upon arrival.  It was about 1700 when I left 111.  A little after 1800, 111 was paged out again on the same printer fault.  It had jammed again.  Toadie said he didn’t know what was wrong with it, that he needed to replace the printer.  We were yelled at and insulted by Napoleon for 30 minutes about not fixing a printer that neither of the techs were able to fix either. 

In addition to these incidents with me (and other less dramatic but still uncalled-for behavior), I have twice seen Napoleon be confrontational with bank customers wanting inside the branch after hours, telling them in pointed or curt tones that the bank was closed when no face-to-face interaction was necessary.  

I know Bank Delux needs technicians and that they certainly need an experienced tech a lot worse than they need me, but I can’t help but think that they would have better luck hanging onto its first-line people if they weren’t asked to submit and tolerate Napoleon’s reprehensible conduct.  In my 30 years of work experience, I have never worked anywhere that condoned this sort of behavior.  I have witnessed an isolated outburst or two in my years (everyone has a bad day every now and then), but never have I seen any company ask employees to tolerate verbal abuse on an ongoing basis.   

I was hoping that someone else would speak up about this before I felt I had to so that I wouldn’t be perceived as a complainer, but this situation is so extreme that I don’t feel I should try to wait it out.  I am simply unwilling to quietly subject myself to another day of bullying.    

I have provided extra copies of this letter for you to distribute to Napoleon’s supervisor and other appropriate personnel.  Please advise me of what actions you will take or any further action you need for me to take to resolve this matter.  Don’t ask me to confront Napoleon on these issues outside the presence of you or some other supervisor because he is too out of control.  Sorry to trouble you with this unpleasant business. 

  

 

  

to my former employer about my bully.  I ended up walking out on the job because of the bully and off course he stayed. I ended up writing the letter because I couldn't stop thinking about the incidences that had happened between myself and the bully.  The only problem is that I wish that I had been as detailed as you were in your letter.  I described some instances which had occured but after I had mailed the letter, I realized that I should have written more.
 
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PLEASE HELP

HELP I WOULD SO GREATLY APPRECIATE IT

Hello, I would so much apprciate any advice and help. My best friend has hurt me badly and I dont know how to confront her. We work at a small office and I am willing to be mature and discuss the issue but not sure she will.

Two years ago her a one of our bosses were working on a huge deal and the deal fell through. My friend was furious at the time because the other company blamed our office and she wrote in GREAT detail who she spoke with date etc. in case a law suit came about. Now two years later there is a lawsuit against our company for breaking contract. Our boss remembers me working with her on the deal. I honestly had nothing to do with it at all. My friend is more than happy to go along with my boss memory {I think the boss really doesnt remember} My friend has destroyed all the documents..proof..files anything that would have her name on it just so she isnt part of the lawsuit. She has put me in position were I have no proof it wasnt me..not documents to back me up etc. I am more hurt that she would do this to me. Stab me in the back like that. It is very important for me to let her know how deeply she has hurt me. I do remember the facts and she is lying and more than happy to blame me. I truly loved her. I never thought she would do such an evil thing to me. How do I confront her? I pray about this issue daily. I am so hurt. Please help . Thank you.

 
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December 28, 2006, 3:02 pm PST

Ridicule at Work

 

  Dear Dr. Phil fans,

 

  I wasn't sure whether to put this under "Stress at Work" or even what to title it, but it's been

  weighing on my mind a lot, so I thought I'd write about it.  Because it's hard to characterize, I

  will simply let the words come as they may.

 

  I feel I'm chronically subject to a certain kind of ridicule that I really detest.  It involves

 disclosing something personal about myself, either in reference to a question, or simply as  

 idle  chit-chat, when someone at the office who's listening will "take advantage" and 

 ridicule  me.

 

 For example, several workers around me could be talking about their cars, and I join in,

 telling them something about my vehicle.  Thus a conversation could start with

 someone complaining about a bad deal they got with their insurance company, after 

 which others contribute their own stories.  Yet when I participate, I get blamed for my 

 troubles.  Or simply ridiculed for something so benign, I can hardly believe it.

 An example of this is someone noticing my maintenance sticker on my windshield, then

 asking why I haven't had my oil change yet, due to the fact that I exceeded the recommended mileage on the sticker. 

 

Joe Schmuck may give his opinion on a political matter, and when I offer mine, especially if 

 it's more conservative than theirs (which is what it tends to be), forget it.  I am then isolated

 by those in the "circle" simply because I feel differently.  Later, to my utter disbelief and

 upset, I am labeled "intolerant" for something I said.  Nevermind that I was singled out

 earlier and made to feel guilty for my views.  Hypocrites!

 

 Maybe it's not just ridicule.  I sense some boundary violation as well (in old-fashioned terms,

 not minding one's own business).  I've even stopped to consider whether I was being too

 sensitive, but being as it is that I don't treat people in this fashion, I can't justify their

 comparable treatment of me.   Is it that they don't like me, or are jealous, and deal with it by 

 finding fault wherever they can (even though I'm like everyone else and have faults)?

 

I get so tired of being violated and put down.  My self-esteem has diminished, and my spirits are frequently down because I feel I have the so-called Rodney Dangerfield Syndrome:  " I can't get no respect".  People in general over the course of my life have characterized me as "very intelligent" more than any other adjective, yet I'll be damned if I can find those kind of people in the workplace.  No amount of strategizing has yielded the kind of work environment I feel I deserve.    

 

Worse yet, these folks have some serious personal flaws, and here they are judging me.  This one is twice divorced, this one is pregnant twice out of wedlock, that one is an alcoholic, the operations manager disdainful with her pierced tongue.   And they don't necessarily perform better than me at work. 

 

Management is kind of lax when it comes to validating my complaints and holding people accountable in this regard.  Each time I'm in the manager's office, I feel I'm in a courtroom debating the merits of my case with another attorney.  In the end, I'm left in this gray area because of the spineless character of my boss.  What was it Dr. Phil said?  "Peace at any cost is not peace at all".  Likewise, I am not at peace because the peace my superiors try to keep cannot possibly satisfy.

 

I'm so tired of these immature, groundless and petty remarks.  Besides neglecting to say anything more, I'll probably search for a new job later this coming year.  Yet I still wonder what's going on with these people.  Does anyone else here relate to this nonsense?  I wonder what Dr. Phil would say.  I would sure welcome his devoting more shows to workplace issues. 

 

I hope someone can help me with this.  Sometimes I feel like lashing out in anger at these people.

 

Sincerely,

Patty Benson

ptty_bnsn@yahoo.com

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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December 28, 2006, 3:21 pm PST

Workplace Bullies

Quote From: sooner_chick

Where I work there is this young,hispanic woman who:


Everytime I come in all dolled up to pick up my check at work, she


see what I am wearing, and she starts laughing!!


First of all...


1. I nothing against hispanics

2. I find this behavior rude and dispectful and mean

3. I ignore this behavior, and just laugh it off.

4. Even my good-hearted husband tells me: :Just ignore it, they

want you to get upset."


There is more person who is like this as well; she does not really

laugh as such.... When my dental work started on my teeth, this

person points to my mouth, and in her broken english,"No, good."

and I am like,"What?"


I know I am projecting and anticipating this type of behavior, but

I am growing tired of this!! I got my braces yesterday,which I am

so happy; and I know when I come in Sunday to work, that this

will start again,esp. when my orthodontist pulls that other front

tooth that needs to come out.


Now, isn't this some type of harassment of some sort? I want

to report this to my supervisors, but I am afraid they will retaliate

with changing my schedule, or something of the sort.


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  I know the type well.  I used to live with a South American woman who would frequently

  attack me verbally for the most minor of things--and things that weren't her business.

 

  The woman you speak of is an uneducated derelict who wasn't raised to appreciate the

   boundaries of others.  She is a product of her upbringing.  Maybe time around the right

   people (as well as  time itself) will cure her of her impulsive tendency to highlight the

   "flaws" of others.

 

  I would encourage you to say something (in good taste, of course), or otherwise talk to her

 superiors.

 

  I believe it is a cultural thing.  Sorry if I've offended anyone, but I'm not politically correct.  No,

  not at the expense of truth-telling or my serenity.

 

  Warm regards,

  Patty Benson

  ptty_bnsn@yahoo.com

 

 

 

 
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