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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 09:25:23 am
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Bullying is not just a schoolyard pastime anymore, it has spread to the workplace as well. Share your stories, support and advice with others dealing with a bully at work.

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May 9, 2007, 10:26 pm PDT

workplace bullies

  I like everyone else have suffered with a boss that abused her supervisory powers .  It was a very small office with only 8 employees in a booth the size of a medium bathroom.  She would play each employee against the other and talk smack about the employees to customers.  If you happened to walk across her path that day you would be the victim of the day.  At one time, 5 employees wrote to corporate headquarters to get results.  Hardly did we know headquarters was telling her detailed information on what we wrote.  We then had to re-read the handbook on the open door policy (which was a joke)  and sign it stating we could only go to her with any problems.  This black widow caused me to get high blood pressure and be put on medicine because she was so abusive.  Since I quit two years ago, the turn over rate is still extremely high and employees are still trying to get headquarters to take action against this narcissitic (sp) bully.  The business is a vendor on tribal land inside a casino so, we are working very hard on getting the tribal council to take notice and put their foot down.  Why would a corporate office NOT take action with so many people leaving and writing about the abuse on thier exit letter?  I dont get it !!!!!!!!!
 
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May 26, 2007, 5:53 pm PDT

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I am going through this with two women that I work with.  They are so nice to my face and yet behind my back is another story.  This has hurt me so bad that someone would hate me so bad as to try and make me lose my job.  I have always gotten along with everyone and treated others like I like to be treated.    When I found out what they were saying about me I cried all the way home.  My feelings were so hurt because they were so nice to me.

 

My manager approached me and told me what was being said.  She investigated and found out that the accusations were false.  Thank God for cameras.  She told me to try and ignore them.  Now I am trying to kill them with kindness.   You can tell they are hating me even more.  Oh well.....I am the most straight-forward, down-to-earth person on earth...but when I am dealing with a two-faced person......I can beat them at their own game.

 
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May 26, 2007, 6:55 pm PDT

Workplace Bullies

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 I have been in the administrative assistance field for over 15 years now and have worked in many different offices with all types of co-workers, and ranging from huge, well-known corporations to small local area businesses.  Dynamics and protocols differ from office to office, obviously, but one thing I have observed is that one thing NEVER seems to change:  The competitive pettiness, the subtle favoritism, and small-minded people who have somehow been afforded power over others while lacking human interaction skills.  I am continually astounded by the magnitude of incompetence and allowable offenses I have seen in the workplace, and I am even more astounded by the blame-games, the backstabbing, the " cover-your-a** " attitudes, the outright lies, and the serious lack of accountability on the part of those exhibiting these behaviors.  Often, the people I have seen demonstrating bullying office behavior are in upper-level management positions and supervise others.

Now I do realize that anybody promoted to or hired into a position of authority as such may have come about it because their quarterly figures were outstanding, or they have excellent training and expertise, or they may have been loyal and dependable employees of the company for years.  Whatever the case may be, from a revenue-generating and productive-business point of view, I am sure many of these people are skilled at what they do.  (And sometimes they aren't...)  What is obviously NOT being appropriately measured and evaluated is how well these people interact with others on a human scale.  It seems that much of what is considered "valued business traits" these days seem to straddle the fence on what can be called competitive, "cut-throat" tactics or outright abuse.  The magnitude and escalation of abuse of power by upper-management is directly affected by how much these people are able to get away with it and why.  In my opinion, it is a structural problem, and almost all office dynamics are structurally set up to model a hierarchy, or militaristic-type chain-of-command.  For example:  You will obey and respect your superiors not because they are respectful or fair to you but because you have been instructed to do so by the organization that employs you.  Here lies the great potential for abuse.  This is the arena where absurdly obvious mistreatment becomes the accepted norm, and ultimately, the grounds for an unhealthy work atmosphere, to put it mildly.  Unfortunately, the threat of job termination is used for leverage and dangled in front of weaker employees much like the proverbial carrot-on-a stick in front of the donkey.  This threatening attitude perpetuates the bullying abuse, the tolerated silence from management, the shunning and isolation from co-workers, and even the endured continuation by the target of abuse themselves.

I truly believe this is a behaviorial issue, and that it is high-time we recognized that there needs to be some serious intervention and regulation into the assessment of  "people skills".  But this assessment needs to come from an independent, external source from the company itself.  I feel that an employee's Human Resources department is NOT the place to turn to.  However sympathetic they may seem, remember, they are employed by the company you work for and saving the company from any accusations of misconduct is first and foremost on the agenda.

Here are just a few examples of improper and abusive workplace behavior I have actually endured myself:

-- I once casually asked a co-worker, who unfortunately had an explosive temper, if he was okay because he looked upset.  He responded by aggressively and loudly screaming "None of your f***ing business!" at me in front of the entire office.  Nobody reprimanded him and none of the supervisors who I am sure heard it through the open doors of thier nearby offices bothered to intervene.  I was not only offended, but shocked.  When I later brought up the incident privately to my supervisor, I was told by her these exact words:  "Oh, that's just how Dave is.  I'm sure he didn't mean it."  Needless to say, I resigned from that job within weeks.

--  Also, on this same job with the same supervisor:  While on the phone with a client I was instructed to call to inquire about payment on an overdue bill, I apparently must have said something that did not bode well my supervisor, who was lurking behind my desk.  This woman actually screamed at me into my ear while I was conversing with the client.  Not only was the client taken aback, but he actually started consoling me as I was at a loss for words.  The supervisor then ripped the phone out of my hands and "finished" the conversation.  To this day, I have no idea what, if anything, I had "done wrong" during that phone call.
     Later, I found out that I was the eighth person hired to fill that position in a five-month period of time!  Some of the previous departures, I was told, actually went to lunch on the first day of employment and never returned.  I must have done something right; I managed to stay there over six months before I resigned.

-- One company I worked for had an office comptroller who took naps at his desk daily, surfed the internet for porn (which he bragged about), and had to ask for the current date nearly every day, usually around 3 or 4 in the afternoon.

-- I once worked for a large corporation in which I discovered that my cubicle had been assigned to someone else while I was on my lunch break.  With no preparation or prior knowledge, I had to move my entire work area to another location altogether while the newly assigned person audibly complained about how the area was "not ready for him".

-- I had a supervisor who routinely sent back completed documents for revision, reprinting, and redistribution due to such minor and insignificant details as a missing comma, whether or not I typed the number 3 or wrote the word "three", the margin setting was not to his liking, or the fact that his name was not stated first before another supervisor's name.  This resulted in wasted time which ultimately reflected poorly on me.  Not to mention insulting, as I was a journalism major and have always maintained a near perfect average on the subjects of English, grammar, and other related fields.  I don't even use SpellCheck!

--In the office in which I currently work, I recently had a another department's supervisor (one to whom I do not professionally answer to) yell at me from across the office in front of other co-workers because I said "The confirmation will be mailed out this afternoon" (as I had been told) instead of saying "The confirmation will be mailed out shortly" to a consumer on the phone who was inquiring about it.  The information I was relating was not even something I dealt with in my department and I was only answering this inquiry as a means of "helping out" (as we were expected to do) because we were short-staffed that day, her assistant being out on sick leave.   After hanging up the phone with the consumer (who incidentally heard the embarrassing exchange), I let this supervisor know that what she did was extremely rude.   I was subsequently "written up" by this person because I was angry.   My actual supervisor, to whom I DO report to, had been on vacation at that time, the  Vice President was out of the office due to illness, and the President was out of the office at a business meeting. This left me with no witnesses other than co-workers who were already walking on eggshells in fear of this woman, as I have come to realize, and no one on that particular day to go to for assistance.  Moreover, I have started to see a pattern with this woman: She will lurk around my work area and try to verbally  "push my buttons" whenever  we are short-staffed and  my immediate supervisor is not around.
     Worst of all, last week I  was informed by my supervisor to locate a file on her desk for her.  While doing so, I came across an unmarked folder lying right out in the open on her desk that contained  typed-up  complaints about me and my work performance by this other woman.  Needless to say, I read her comments.  I was outraged to see that this woman had made up OUTRIGHT LIES about me, attributing things to me that I had NEVER SAID OR DONE!  But because I was not supposed to have seen this document, I was powerless to do or say anything about it.  This is what I am dealing with now, and still am not sure how to handle just yet.

OH MY GOSH!  I feel like I am not alone anymore.  I can't believe your experience sounds so much like my previous job! 

I had quit at a last minute notice due to the head nurse that I worked for.  I am a caregiver.  And we are in the position of "TAKING CARE OF PEOPLE!"   And this person in charge of all the other nurses and all the caregivers is hardly in ANY position to be COMPASSIONATE!  She is anything BUT compassionate. 

Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.

 

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May 27, 2007, 4:03 pm PDT

There is more than one way to skin a cat!

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Hello.

I have been working for a company for the past 9 years, and at first it was great. Then I switched positions within the company and thats when I met the worst workplace bully.

He is so cruel to everyone around him, but the worst thing about it is that he will get you alone and then just verbally abuse you and treat you like crap. There are a number of us who have expressed great concern to our Manager about this person (who is a supervisor) and the Manager tells us that he doesn't  believe us. The Manager seems to think that this bully on a huge power trip walks on water, and we couldn't figure out why. Then we found out that this certain bully does half of the Manager's work for him, so they seem to have a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" kind of deal.

Just recently, a fellow employee who has been the recipient of the majority of this bully's terror had enough and went to a union representative and filed harassment against him. There were a few of us around when the bully was disrespecting and treating this certain employee like total garbage, and we were asked to write witness statements.

I was one of these witnesses, and I wrote a statement attesting to what I had seen. A couple of days after the harassment charge was filed, fellow co-workers were coming up to me and the employee who filed the charge and telling us things that the Manager and the Supervisor/bully were spreading around the company - things basically trying to discredit us and make us look bad, and all of these rumors are so untrue and vicious.

So far we have heard NOTHING about the harassment charge and what this company plans to do and has the responsibility to do about the fact that this employee, me, and many, many other employees are being harassed and bullied at work by this individual.

This supervisor needs to be terminated, this is NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT.

PLEASE, CAN SOMEONE OFFER ME SOME ADVICE ON HOW I CAN GET SOMEONE TO LISTEN????

One day recently, I was in another division at my workplace to coordinate efforts in my investigation.  A supervisor of that division was in a closed office yelling so loudly that it distracted us to the point that we could not address the business at hand.  This was not the first incident and I could see that the other coworkers were clearly intimidated by this abusive conduct and I was told they were afraid to say anything about it.  This was not the first time.  In my field, self-control and professionalism are key.  I reported this to my supervisor and informed her that I would be contacting human resources to file a formal complaint.  I documented the behavior in writing and also wrote that  expected something to be done about this unacceptable, unprofessional conduct.  I followed up on the complaint a week later and was informed that this person was dealt with from his supervisor.  I was happy to hear from the staff in that department that immediately after the date of my complaint, his disposition made a drastic change.  What you are dealing with is not only a hostile work environment, but also retaliation from your supervisor because of the complaint. Document. Get satements. This might have become a federal issue. The employer is ultimately responsible for allowing this behavior to continue.
 
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May 27, 2007, 9:09 pm PDT

Am also having workplace bullying in healthcare

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Why is it that the healthcare industry employs so many bullies?  In healthcare, we as professionals, are supposed to be caring for the ill and injured patients.  How can we provide care to these patients when we are in an environment which promotes hatred and evil doings toward one another?  Even if you are not a doctor, nurse, medical technician, etc., even if you are doing billing, receptionist, or other clerical/administrative duties, we still should be promoting healing and good health toward our clients. 

 

In the medical group I worked in, the stress level was so high, and the employee turnover was so high.  So many employees who have been terminated have ended up on Disability, then Unemployment.  When the work environment tears down your self-esteem, it creates illness not only physically, but mentally as well.  I am ashamed of my former co-workers and I hope I never cross paths with them ever again for the remainder of my life.  I have decided that I want my next job to be away from the healthcare industry.

 Your note sounds like I could have written it.  I worked for Disability office for 5 years, it had lots  of problems, but I was able to let most of it roll off my back. Then decided to go to a  department in a medical university with a great salary increase and to learn more, I thought.  All I learned was how vicious coworkers could be!  At first the supervisor liked me, then she turned on me when I asked for training on the many computer programs they used (she said, "You don't need training--you're a secretary, aren't you? Just do it!" The administrative assistant was also being so surly and sarcastic that the doctors were even complaining about her. Then  started the supervisor & A.A. started making up complaints about me that never happened. I couldn't eat, sleep, or relax, got very depressed, lost 20 lbs in the last month, I was just sick that I'd gotten myself into that hornet's nest. They backed me into a corner, so to speak,and one Friday, they told me to quit or they'd fire me.  I quit but managed to get unemployment because the unemployment office had this same complaint from many other people who tried to get jobs there, said that the turnover was especially high in the department I'd been in. I wasn't alone, but that doesn't make it right.  I've worked for over 30 years and always did a good job and was basically liked and trusted everywhere I worked until then.  I'm afraid to put them on my resume.

Now it's "deja vu all over again."  I took a big salary cut to work where I am now, because I thought it was better--hah! Am working for a private doctor who very loudly will proclaim (tin front of all my coworkers, patients, pharmaceutical representatives, etc.,  that I spend all my time surfing the web or am on the phone too much and use his business line for expensive long-distance calls--NONE of which is true!   Been there a year and the promised raises never came (the doctor "can't afford" to give any raises, but his wife got him a brand new Corvette for his birthday recently!)  And last week one of my co workers who had been in an accident some time ago and her husband has driven her to work ever since--well, recently she started driving herself to work and she has a Handicapped tag on her truck - has a hip injury and got the tag  legitimately, followed all the rules, and now parks in one of the handicapped spaces--well, our doctor boss found out and  told her at least THREE times last week that she's not handicapped and didn't need that handicapped tag and that she should be "socially responsible" and give it up and stop taking up parking spaces that the "truly handicapped" people need more than she does.  The 3rd time he told her, it was in front of EVERYONE while we were having a birthday celebration for her!  I could not believe the rudeness in his humiliating her like that.  Over the years, I very rarely have ever wanted to walk out on  the job, but this just about sent me over the top. I thought doctors are supposed to HEAL people, not emotionally shred them to ribbons so they can't function--it's HIS team, and he's tearing us down!  How are we supposed to do our best for him?  What can you do when you work in a small office and it's HIS office, everything has to go HIS way, and he's not going to change, so all you can do is look for another job (but they don't want you to take time off).  And I'm afraid I won't get a good reference now that I've been there a year and he seems to get worse every day. After all these years as a good employee, I've had two bad jobs in a row.  How to deal with this in my next interview?   I agree with you, I thought healthcare was the place to be, but now I think it's the place to avoid.  I'll be afraid to make any doctors' appointments after this, if other offices are like this one.
 
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May 27, 2007, 9:36 pm PDT

Hi to JB in the Twilight Zone

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Hi "Simply"!!!  Didn't you sort of feel like you were al of a sudden thrust into the twilight zone?  That nothing seemed real that was happening to you at work?  That is how I felt at a previous job I had many years ago where I had been known for doing a great job.  Then a new boss took over and all of a sudden, nothing I did was right and she wrote horrible evaluations about me and gave me a difficult time with everything.  And it doesn't even mean you are doing your job poorly.  Just ONE person can take a dislike to you for any ridiculous reason.  And then make life miserable for you at work Yes, I too started getting the cold shoulder from people who I used to eat lunch with and have a good relationship with.    And I was out of the loop with communications too. 

I just recently gave notice at my current job....things aren't nearly as bad here as that job I had many years ago, but I feel that my current boss plays favorites and is not very appreciative--atleast not until I gave my notice------of everything I do.  I don't know if you have a quiet personality, but I think that we are much more susceptible to workplace bullies.  They think that we won't fight back.   So we have to show them that we will!!!  I'm glad those vicious people at your job got fired. Did you ever wonder if one of them messed up the accounts while you were out on leave and then tried to pass the blame on to you?  Wouldn't be at all surprised.

Things don't always work out that nicely where the bullies get fired.  It didn't happen in my case  But I did report some of my boss's shenanigans to some higher ups..  Atleast I gave themsomething to think about and it made things uncomfortable for her for a while.

You were smart to get out of that job.  It isn't worth risking your health for and you and your family come first.  I hope things are better for you now!  Good luck.  JB

 I think I'm also in the twilight zone.  Had 2 very bad experiences in the medical field in the past couple years, it's happening now and I'm worried how this is going to affect my future jobs.  I have been looking up "workplace bullying" on the web and it seems to be an escalating problem.  The doctor I work for now is very knowledgable and can be very personable, but he is also a mean, thoughtless, rude, and crude person who zeroes in on people's weaknesses and mentally tortures them, apparently just because he CAN.   I kept asking myself "WHY?" I'm a nice lady, I try my best on my job, try to do the right thing, why is he targeting ME?  You may have something there, about some of us being susceptible because we have quieter personalities and we want to get along and live and let live--but the bullies aren't like us--they WANT to stir up problems--they seem to thrive on it!  They seem, according to the websites on bullying that I visited, to actually seek out people who do have good work ethics and are reasonable and intelligent.   I think maybe I'm being picked on because I'm like the little boy who blurted out that "The Emperor doesn't have new clothes on--he's just naked!."   (Remember that fairy tale--The Emperor's New Clothes"?)  I'm the one in the office who said, The boss doesn't have a "dry wit" or a "weird sense of humor"--no one's laughing at his "jokes," which are really just insults--it's not funny--he's just a bully.  I saw through the bullying and said so.  I'm honest and really don't know how to suck up to people or, excuse my language, be a butt-kisser.  So they want to kill the messenger.  Do a Google-search on workplace bullies & see what you come up with. Very enlightening.
 
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June 4, 2007, 4:45 am PDT

Hi sunshine! From JB in the Twilight Zone!!!!

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 I think I'm also in the twilight zone.  Had 2 very bad experiences in the medical field in the past couple years, it's happening now and I'm worried how this is going to affect my future jobs.  I have been looking up "workplace bullying" on the web and it seems to be an escalating problem.  The doctor I work for now is very knowledgable and can be very personable, but he is also a mean, thoughtless, rude, and crude person who zeroes in on people's weaknesses and mentally tortures them, apparently just because he CAN.   I kept asking myself "WHY?" I'm a nice lady, I try my best on my job, try to do the right thing, why is he targeting ME?  You may have something there, about some of us being susceptible because we have quieter personalities and we want to get along and live and let live--but the bullies aren't like us--they WANT to stir up problems--they seem to thrive on it!  They seem, according to the websites on bullying that I visited, to actually seek out people who do have good work ethics and are reasonable and intelligent.   I think maybe I'm being picked on because I'm like the little boy who blurted out that "The Emperor doesn't have new clothes on--he's just naked!."   (Remember that fairy tale--The Emperor's New Clothes"?)  I'm the one in the office who said, The boss doesn't have a "dry wit" or a "weird sense of humor"--no one's laughing at his "jokes," which are really just insults--it's not funny--he's just a bully.  I saw through the bullying and said so.  I'm honest and really don't know how to suck up to people or, excuse my language, be a butt-kisser.  So they want to kill the messenger.  Do a Google-search on workplace bullies & see what you come up with. Very enlightening.

Hi Sunshine!

 

I realize you wrote to me about a week ago but I haven't been on here for a while.   What I've learned is that bullies have no regard for whether or not you are a "nice person" or if you do your job well.  They have a need to put people down, probably due to their own lack of self-esteem and they pick someone who seems like they will take it.  I believe that is why quiet people are often targets.  The buliies think they won't fight back and it is safe to go after someone who won't go back after them. 

 

I was quiet as a child and of course experienced some bullying then.  But of course the worst situation I ever ran across with bullying was at that job I described in my previous post on here.  It was in a school so the bully was a principal. From what I've heard each year she would target someone and "go after" them.  Constant criticism, ignoring all the good things the person does on the job, actually making up lies and writing them into evaluations, talking in an insulting and condescending way to that employee.  I could go on and on, but all who are on this board can probably relate to this.  And others who see this going on will never back you up.  Why?? Because they are probably afraid of becoming the next target!  Smartest thing I ever did was to leave that job at the end of the year.  The job I got after that one was a much more pleasant place to work.  I was treated with lots of respect and was appreciated.  I eventually had to leave because of a long commute which made it hard to get home in time to be there for my kids.

 

I am leaving another job at the end of this school year.  While I am not being bullied in the classic sense, I do feel that the supervisor does play favorites and I am at the stage of life where I fortunately don't need this job, so I am less likely to tolerate any kind of nonsense.  So I made the decision to leave an atmosphere where there is a clear line betweeen who gets the goodies and who doesn't. I gave notice several weeks ago and have seen a big change in my boss's attitude since then.  She is bending over backwards to be accommodating to me, maybe in hopes that I will change my mind.  But I emphasized to her an a couple of occasions that my answer is final.  This was not a case of traditional bullying, but instead one of not appreciating a good worker until she is ready to walk out the door. Lesson to be learned:  Treat your workers equally!!

 

It is amamzing that in both the healthcare and education fields there is so much workplace bullying going on.  These are supposed to be fields where humans nurture others!  So sad.

 

I wish you good luck, sunshine!  Myabe you just have to show people you are not going to take any nonsense!!  Take care,

Julie

 
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June 5, 2007, 2:34 pm PDT

request refused to take mother for chemo

 
 
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June 5, 2007, 2:39 pm PDT

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 My boss said that I could taek a leave when I told her mymother was sick.
Three days later I asked her for hours off to taek my mother to chemo.
SHe said NO
I was so upset
She said find someone else to do it
I have 3oo hours of accrued time, and I voluteered to switch shifts and she said no
IThis is a humans services agency
SHe is out all the time
I don't trust her
 
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June 6, 2007, 5:39 am PDT

How insensitive!!!!

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 My boss said that I could taek a leave when I told her mymother was sick.
Three days later I asked her for hours off to taek my mother to chemo.
SHe said NO
I was so upset
She said find someone else to do it
I have 3oo hours of accrued time, and I voluteered to switch shifts and she said no
IThis is a humans services agency
SHe is out all the time
I don't trust her

She is nasty and insensitive!!  I don't blame you for not trusting her, especially when she just went back on her word! 

Human service places such as healthcare and educational institutions seem to have the most insensitive people rather than the most nurturing....how sad.

 
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