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(Original Air Date: 10/24/07Are you falling in love with all the wrong people? Dr. Phil's guests are entangled in affairs so taboo, one man could land himself in jail! Emily and Brandon have been married for two-and-a-half years, and Emily was shocked to learn that her husband had sex with a 15-year-old — twice. Brandon, 25, is now facing two felony charges for having intercourse with a minor, and blames his actions on a porn addiction. Does he really have a disorder, or is he just building a defense for his potential arrest? Then, Debbie, 51, says she has no shame about posing as a younger woman online and meeting attractive men. Her adult children, Michelle and Nathan, say her behavior is not only humiliating, but it's also very dangerous. Why did Debbie fake her own death? Is it possible for her to stop this behavior, or should her children just mind their own business? Tell us what you think.


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October 24, 2007, 9:12 am CDT

10/24 Controversial Love Affairs

One day recently Oprah had a show about transgendered people. There were men on that show who decided after they had married and had children that they should have been a woman. So, family be damed, they became a woman. And today her show is about being gay around the world. Now, today on Dr. Phil's show he is discussing the fact that a 25 year old man is having sex with 15 and 17 year olds. If there is anybody who can state that the devil does not walk this earth today ,has their head planted firmly in the ground. And I think the sickest part of this thing is the wife of the child raper had sex with her husband two days ago. Heaven help us all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
October 24, 2007, 10:12 am CDT

10/24 Controversial Love Affairs

Quote From: eep5482

Maybe the thing that needs to be changed is the laws since biology clearly (I know you may not agree with this) doesn't catch up with the responsibility we put on children...or the things that children do.  They may do certain actions, but that doesn't mean they understand them or the consequences.  Adults on the other hand do (or should at least) understand the consequences of the things they do.  Seems that this may have been the point?

I think there are way too many 15 yr olds that know exactly what they are doing and deliberately set out to tease an older guy. Kids these days need help and have serious issues with some of the things they do, say and tricks they pull. They are a lot cleverer and manipulative and devious than you think and not innocent at all, and when you talk to them about issues, they know it's wrong but pull the little girl act or change the story and say they were raped. When a young girl goes out dressed that way, she knows exactly what she is doing and what she is looking for, she probably learned it from her mother. What mother in their right mind would allow their daughter to go out dressed like a hooker? Don't tell me mothers miss this and what's going on here, seems to me they haven't got the time to notice because they're off doing the same things. There are a lot of girls out there that would set this up simply for the attention they will get. They are being taught it's good to be bad, you get attention and money that way.

 

 THIS IS WHAT PORNOGRAPHY & WHAT EXPLOITING WOMEN AND CHILDREN DOES (in mags, tv, music videos, prostitutes out there, hooters type women, this is what they represent to men. How can a woman allow herself to be used, abused and exploited just for attention from a man and for quick cash. These people clearly have no morals or values OR SELF-RESPECT, if they think they have, they are fooling themselves and need mental help. They are in denial).

 

We are all responsible, thing is, takes too much time and effort to do the right thing, it's easier to let them do what they want. This is where these kids are learning it. Something should be done about this right now.

 

The guy knew what he was getting himself involved in and just couldn't help himself, oh please!. When a guy looks at porn, he will eventually get to the point of finding them younger and younger. He will take the risks if he thinks he can get away with it. You really think they are going to tell you the truth that they look at young girls, NO, because they know what the consequences are. When anyone hides something, when a man hides porn, he KNOWS it's wrong and hurtful and that he's sick one way or another or he wouldn't be HIDING it in the first place.

 

Men who are sex addicts look at young girls that dress this way, it's in their thoughts, if they deny it, they are LYING. Porn twists and warps the mind. So any guy out there that is a porn addict and tells me they don't think of  being with a young girl is a LIAR. Those that look at porn are masters at lying, PERIOD!

 

You women out there that do this and encourage this, this is the message you are sending out to these guys, that it's ok to rape and molest women and children and be abusive.  This is what porn is these days, rape movies, incest movies. SICK!

And this is what happens, we see cases like this over and over again. Just because you should be able to do something, doesn't mean to say it's RIGHT or responsible.

Every case is individual. The girl should be prosecuted/parents fined. The guy is a pedophile. He is a liar and a sex addict. He knew exactly what he was doing. Is his wife mad? What is she doing still having sex with a pervert?

 
October 24, 2007, 10:13 am CDT

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Quote From: longwalker

One day recently Oprah had a show about transgendered people. There were men on that show who decided after they had married and had children that they should have been a woman. So, family be damed, they became a woman. And today her show is about being gay around the world. Now, today on Dr. Phil's show he is discussing the fact that a 25 year old man is having sex with 15 and 17 year olds. If there is anybody who can state that the devil does not walk this earth today ,has their head planted firmly in the ground. And I think the sickest part of this thing is the wife of the child raper had sex with her husband two days ago. Heaven help us all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

EXACTLY!
 
October 24, 2007, 10:18 am CDT

Will not stone you

Quote From: manofgoods

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Any man or woman that has sex with a teenager is considered statutory rape, regardless whatever the child consented to it, or not. No matter how you think about it, it is rape. If the man really didn't want to destroy his family & be behind bars, don't you think that he would've said no to her, told his wife about her actions, & have his wife call her parents on her? Think about it. I don't have any sympathy for rapists at all; I don't see why you do. Therefore, the child is the victim! Not to mention his wife & their children!
 I guess i do agree to some extent , but you have to agree that some of  these 15 yr olds today dress and act a lot different today then when we were 15,  My mom knew what i had in my closet, and never was anythig to " mature for my age or guess what i was not allowed out of the house, plain & simple I would never think of questioning her out of respect not fear,and never thought of sneeking anythig in or out ,i have seen 15 yr olds that look and act 21 rubbing and kissing these guys no lie, and seen the guy trying to push them away and the girl not giving up as she will not be rejected. this was at a very busy mall, some of these girls get away with a lot then when they get in trouble they pull the i'm only 15, and I think that if the kids today got grounded , or had to take more responsibility for their actions, or smacked on the back side once in a while they would think twice about what would happen if they got into trouble and have to face the consiquences instead of threatning their parents with DIFS or calling the police.The adult man should still know better and say no,  and walk , or run away as fast as he can before she really does a number for him,look what his family is going through now, was it worth it?
 
October 24, 2007, 10:42 am CDT

OMG...he thinks he has a problem??

OMG you have got to be kidding me?? RIGHT? This guys this he has a problem w porn, having what he calls "consentual" sex w a 15 y/o?? This is called RAPE/MOLESTATION at its finest!

 

My current husband is out of my house now, because of the same reason, he can not control "himself". However I havent consulted w the police/attorney. My situation at best is because the hubby is paying the bills, I am disabled and cant work, and I have no other means to make ends meet...BUT IF ANYONE OUT THERE CAN HELP ME WITH MY PLEAS FOR HELP I WOULD APPRECIATED IT....I am trying desperately to get away from this man...my daughter was "supposedly" of age 18 when it started, but you see she is moderately mentallly handicapped so i dont even know if I have a case...I NEED HELP WITH THIS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ANYONE READING THIS IF YOU COULD HELP ME PLEASE EMAIL ME OR LEAVE ME A MESSAGE!!!! THERE IS ALOT MORE TO THE STORY BUT THIS IS THE JUST OF IT...AND I CANT GET ANY HELP FROM ANYONE I TURN TOO.

 

 

ANYWAY back to subject at hand...this guy definately has problems...and OMG I cant believe the wife....how could she be so "undersanding" of this, their own daughter is at risk!

 

I have nothing really to say about the lady on the show she is just outta control and bound to get hurt, but it is her own doings.....this world is NOT a safe place anymore!!

 

 

IF YOU CAN HELP ME PLEASE I BEG OF YOU TO GET IN CONTACT W ME.....

 

 

Cindy

 
October 24, 2007, 10:44 am CDT

To DEBBIE

I think you look 41 yrs old Debbie!!! 

 

You know I think there is a "PERFECT PLAN" for young single people.  You grow up, go to college decide what you are going to be.... you fall in love, get married, you have 2 kids, buy a house with a white picket fence and get a dog.  AND EVERYONE IS SO HAPPY and says isn't that sweet and are supportive....

 

BUT if for some reason:  You find yourself later in life DIVORCED for whatever the reasons... I don't think there is this perfect plan:  but a PIONEER FRONTIER  that YOU and YOU ALONE decide and OFTEN TIMES against the grain and everyone is on different planes or levels based on what they have been through.... and instead of support I think people whisper or become part of the problem.... and want to pop the balloons of your DREAMS....

 

I mean as a young college girl you laugh with your friends and flirt if you go out and try to meet someone; whereas if you are older and have kids....  If you go out with your friends often times they want to talk to you and don't have the same try to meet someone nice mindset.... so it is a different set of game rules...

 

Meeting someone when you are older is a challenge... and perhaps doesn't have the PERFECT PLAN.....  and I think people should realize if you are from a broken relationship... It is not for them to judge.... but people do....  Some more people need to write books.....

 

 

 
October 24, 2007, 11:04 am CDT

Sad

I know this soldier.  He was in my unit.  I knew he was into porn and strip clubs but never thought he took it this far.  I use to consider him a friend.  I just am in shock.  I woke up today, turned on my favorite tv show (Dr. Phil) and there he is.  Unbelievable.

 
October 24, 2007, 11:12 am CDT

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Quote From: kathleena

 I guess i do agree to some extent , but you have to agree that some of  these 15 yr olds today dress and act a lot different today then when we were 15,  My mom knew what i had in my closet, and never was anythig to " mature for my age or guess what i was not allowed out of the house, plain & simple I would never think of questioning her out of respect not fear,and never thought of sneeking anythig in or out ,i have seen 15 yr olds that look and act 21 rubbing and kissing these guys no lie, and seen the guy trying to push them away and the girl not giving up as she will not be rejected. this was at a very busy mall, some of these girls get away with a lot then when they get in trouble they pull the i'm only 15, and I think that if the kids today got grounded , or had to take more responsibility for their actions, or smacked on the back side once in a while they would think twice about what would happen if they got into trouble and have to face the consiquences instead of threatning their parents with DIFS or calling the police.The adult man should still know better and say no,  and walk , or run away as fast as he can before she really does a number for him,look what his family is going through now, was it worth it?

I agree with this.

 
October 24, 2007, 11:35 am CDT

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Quote From: manofgoods

It's true that the girl should take responsibility if she consented to it, but you have to understand, kids are kids, & they don't think for themselves. They aren't adults, & don't make smart decisions. That's why we have laws like this for. That's when morals come in. Are you saying that all men & women in this country can have sex with many teenage minors as they like, & then get away with it because the teens consented to it? Look at Mary Kay Letourneau & Debra Lafave, for instance. They are the ones who chose to have sex with their teenage students, & even though the teenage boys consented it, should they have gotten away for the crime because they wanted it? No way! Otherwise, they would continue to do it to many others. I'm a man myself at 25 years of age, so I know what's going on. Plus you can bet that I would have that person locked up whenever they continue to molest children. It's not right to be protecting them when they can go do it to someone else.
I know that kids dont always think for themselves, but even though this girl isnt exactly an adult yet, she isnt exactly a LITTLE kid either & should know better. Who's to say she didnt come on to him & seduce him? I'm not saying she did, but it could be possible. Yes, he should've said no either way. But now that its happened, if this girl willingly consented, then he shouldn't be the only one getting blamed/in trouble. Not that either of them should be in trouble with the law since (I'm assuming) it was consensual. I stated in another post that I think the age of consent should be 15 in every state.... since at that age, 15 year olds are already working in some places & learning how to drive & LITTLE kids dont work or drive. As for the instances with the teachers, I do believe they should've lost their teaching licenses because I do think its really unethical for teachers to have sex with students.... and if memory serves me right, the teen boys in those 2 teacher cases were like 13, well I know in the Mary Kay case he was 13 when they started, and in that sense it was wrong because 13 is too young to have sex in my opinion. However, With that said, that boy seemed to know exactly what he was doing, so I'm honestly kinda on the fence there. And I'm sorry, but in my honest opinion, these teens were NOT molested. Just horny, hormone driven teens that should know better as well. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
October 24, 2007, 12:10 pm CDT

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Quote From: breeze1000

Doctors, nurses, barristers, teachers, psychologists, psychiatrists, scientists, your landlord, the man or woman down your local 7/11 who serves you every morning, your husband or wife, father or child, army, navy and marines can ALL be perverts and pedophiles. There are way too many guys in the army and marines (military) that are heavily into 'porn'. Porn in the military is a huge problem. You are telling me a marine is not capable of being a pervert, and that especially when he deploys he's not  whacking off to porn behind his wife/g/f's back, and never  makes sexual comments about young girls? I know many in the military that are 'warped' sexually. They have serious issues with pornography, they are addicts. The distribution of porn in the military is a major problem and just like other professions, they use their job to mask who they really are, but on the outside they seem your average normal well-respected joe. I don't know what planet you are on, but you have been confined in the marines for too long and need to get out to see what the real world is like if you believe that marines cannot possibly be perverts. People in the military have affairs, do all kinds of things they shouldn't. Just because it's what the marines stands for, do you honestly believe that they are all abiding by the rules? What's it got to do with what he has on his head or if it's the army or marines, the point is, he's a pedophile and it's not what you do, it's what you ARE.
I was referring to usmc1997 on this, and agreeing with you >'pennylane'
 
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