Topic : 03/20 Policing the Parents

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Created on : Friday, October 19, 2007, 01:48:30 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/25/07) Should teens have to police a parent who is drug-addicted or just overall irresponsible? Robert, a father of two, has been in rehab six times in the past four years for an alcohol addiction. He says he drinks so often that his 14-year-old daughter, Keryn, pours out his beer daily, cleans up his bloody wounds after drunken falls and walks him home to prevent the police from arresting him! Robert's wife, Eileen, says she feels torn between protecting her children and loyalty to her husband. Will she stop enabling Robert's addiction, and will Robert get the wake-up call he desperately needs? Keryn has been her father's overseer for so long, is it too late to reverse their roles? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.


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March 20, 2008, 9:47 am PDT

Yes you did..

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I understand that after having this family in your home for hour today makes you experts and gives you every right to pass judgment upon them, make comments and turn your nose up to them because it is so easy to do from your computer at home. What brave little media junkies you all are! What you need to understand is that you got clips and glimpses into their life and all of the clips are just that. It doesn't make for good T.V. to show the whole story.
So if it makes you feel better about your sad life to spend your time watching television shows about other people in the hopes to hear something gruesome and juicy then by all means go ahead and use that one hour reality break from your own possibly pathetic lives but don't sit on a pedestal and begin to think that you could possibly comprehend this family. Every persons life is different and what might work for your family will not work for others.


Nice try....but, if you know anything about this show at all, you watched it, too!....and here you are on the message boards expressing your opinion just like everyone else. 
 
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March 20, 2008, 10:19 am PDT

BRAIN SCANS - ALCOHOL AND DRUG ABUSE

There is really quite a bit of scientific literature on the physiological effects of drugs and alcohol on the brain.  Brain scans have demonstrated a number of abnormalities in substance abusers in brain areas known to be involved in behavior, such as the frontal and temporal lobes. There are similarities and differences between the damage caused by the different substances of abuse.  Some of my favorite brain scan images as a result of alcohol and drug abuse:

 

www.amenclinics.com/bp/atlas/ch15.php

 

There tends to be several similarities seen among classes of abused drugs. The most common similarity among drug and alcohol abusers is that the brain has an overall toxic look to it. In general, the brain scan studies look less active, more shriveled, and overall less healthy. A "scalloping effect" is common amongst drug abusing brains.  Scalloping is a wavy, rough sea-like look on the brain's surface.  Normal brain patterns show smooth activity across the cortical surface. 

 

Hope it helps!

 

 

 
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March 20, 2008, 11:47 am PDT

How About an Update?

When you have a rerun in your lineup how about adding an update at the end of the show?  In this case we all want to know that this sweet young lady is okay. 
 
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March 20, 2008, 11:56 am PDT

CHILD ABUSE

When children have to RAISE their alcoholic and/or drug-addicted parents, they are being neglected and emotionally abused. These kids have lousy childhoods, grow up fast (they have to) and they carry the baggage of what they've witnessed into their adult relationships. Often they, too, end up using alcohol/drugs to stop their own pain.

 

How SELFISH of parents to subject their innocent children to this type of horrible life. HOPEFULLY the guests will get the help they so obviously need....if not for themselves, than for their kids. They OWE it to their children!

 
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March 20, 2008, 12:48 pm PDT

03/20 Policing the Parents

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What we saw was REAL!!  That was not made up!  Sure, it was all the IMPORTANT details of this family's life!  And it was packed into an hour.  Whether you admit or not, this goes on all over the country.  And I wasn't GLUED to my tv hoping to sideline my problems by watching.   You have some nerve to criticize those who feel strongly about this family.  Because YOU TOO watched and had an opinion.  Sounds like this may have struck a nerve about something you are too ashamed to bring to light.  In any instance, put a lid on it.
Isn't it funny how some people think they're the only ones with any right to an opinion? Somehow, I doubt Dr  Phil's invitation is limited to them. And, if they think it's wrong for us to watch the show, how do they justify watching it?
 
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March 20, 2008, 1:03 pm PDT

The "disease" cop-out

I don't care who does it, but isn't calling alcoholism a "disease" copping-out? And, making excuses? None of which is much use in getting the alcoholic to take ownership of his behavior. I got so tired of today's guest running his mouth about how this "disease" had such a hold on him, I wanted to "yell" at him. And, I have yelled at Dr Phil for calling it a "disease" every time the issue comes up. While excess drinking can lead to dependency, it is still a behavior.
 
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March 20, 2008, 1:15 pm PDT

03/20 Policing the Parents

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I heard this man and I was so angry with the mother and the father!!!!!!!!! Iam so sick of alcoholics calling their CHOICE an illness I could just scream....... I lived with an alcoholic for many years also.  It was the worst thing in my life. I felt I could help him, I would give him a reason to live.  I would share my life, a life without alcohol. with him to show him how great it could be.  I went to AA anl Ala-non to support him.  That lead me to the Lord and Chrisianity.  And gave me the balls to kick that man to the CURB!!!!!!  He finally got the message and had to go to the rock bottom and pull his own ass out of the crap.  It took 2 years but he finally did it.  I was afraid but found my life so much better without him in it I felt a huge weight off my back.  He is back now but he also knows that I don't NEED him to live, that my life could and would go on without him.  I am giving him this chance and he has been sober since Jan. 
I'm sick of people calling the choice to drink to the point of addiction an illness, too.  Especially when Dr Phil does it. It's such a cop-out.

 
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March 20, 2008, 1:34 pm PDT

03/20 Policing the Parents

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I too am so sick of drunks being given a pass for their choice to drink and behave badly because they have a "disease".  One chooses to drink, therefore it is not a disease, but a CHOICE!  Nobody chooses to get cancer, diabetes, leukemia, etc, but when a person chooses to pick up a bottle and drink its contents we are supposed to make allowences for them because they have an illness?  I believe people need to be made responsible for the choices they make in life. 
Even Dr Phil keeps falling for this "disease" crap. Today's guest kept running at the mouth about the hold his "disease" had on him. And, Dr Phil went right along with it. How do these "disease" excuses help anyone to quit drinking? Six "rehabs" failed to help his quest.
 
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March 20, 2008, 1:38 pm PDT

i sware i saw'll myself

 I am also a fourteen year old and latly lifes been getting really stress full . My dad is a drunk only i'm to shy to really admit it , Karyen had it alot worse than me but it still dosn't make it better . As long as i can remeber my dad has drank its only after the frist break up between Mom and Dad. That mom got me involed.

 

 

i really don't know what else to right my life is so twisted and cofussing that i don't know ..

 

jessy age 14

 

p.s i'm not the only kid in the mix i have a brother who i feel like i raise not only him but mom and dad...

 
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March 20, 2008, 1:48 pm PDT

Drug Addiction and Alcoholism is a Disease


http://www.Drug-Addiction-Support.org


 

Admitting that drug addiction is a disease seems trite on the surface, but people look at drug addiction differently than they view heart disease, or cancer, or the common cold. There is always blame attached to drug addiction. There is always an accusatory finger to be pointed at the one who suffers from drug addiction disease.


 

Many in society assert that the addict is entirely to blame. There is not the same kind of sympathy for drug addicts that there is for smokers with cancer, or people with diabetes and heart disease. They are not viewed as people suffering from a disease.


 

The reasoning for society not being sympathetic to the addict is simple. People get hooked because they chose to take the drug in the first place. John Q. Public sees it that way and he can take the moral high ground because he didn’t take drugs and somebody else did. Maybe John Q. took the drugs but didn’t get hooked. People seeking a thrill might try a street drug like crack cocaine, methamphetamine, or heroin because of the “rush,” the “high” they produce and chronic users are those who have developed a need far beyond merely wanting a thrill.


 

Prescription medications that are abused, such as OxyContin, are coveted because the effect is intense and even greater than the heroin they get on the street. Even if they don’t want a thrill, people can still become addicted to prescription medications just because they take more than the prescribed amount to feel better. In either case, nobody asked for their life to be ruined.


 

It may start innocently enough, but people get out of control. What started as a lark ends up as an albatross around their neck. It hangs there and the user can’t get rid of it. Regardless of how the disease started, the person is no longer in control of it and cannot break free of the disease’s power. People may have a few drinks, or enjoy a couple of trips to the buffet table, but sooner or later their body says it’s time to stop. With the addict, that “thing” that says stop isn’t there. They don’t get enough and continue, even long after another person has stopped. It’s the inability to stop that causes so much pain and suffering.

Whatever the drug of choice, intervention and treatment are necessary for the addict to return to a healthy lifestyle. The problem for the addict is that society has attached a stigma to the disease. Bad people are drug addicts. Weak people are drug addicts. Undesirable people are drug addicts. No, people become addicts; good people, nice people. The well-educated, the blue collar, the rich, the poor, all colors and types are all potential addicts. They can all contract the disease. No one is exempt.

 

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