Topic : 06/09 Devastating Divorce

    I commend Gretchen for finally ,leaving Danny and meaning it! Don't get me wrong I love Danny and have always been a fan of his, but Gretchen has stood by him through thick and thin and where has it gotten her? I don't believe Danny wants to change ( He likes who he is) He loves the drama,the attention and the alcohol and drugs... He will just replace Gretch with someone else who will put up with his crap and try to fix him. Look hes already got a tattoo of a woman's name and hes not even divorced yet.

    Danny needs serious help, but i don't see him getting it. Look Dr.Phil could barely get through to him, he is so wrapped up in himself and what he wants!

     Good Luck to Gretchen & the kids and to Danny I pray that one day you see the light and get the help you need..

 

12 steps and run on the 13th and get into the car and LIVE* Take the kids and GO*

ala-non is a good start for you and the kids to counseling and Dad gets to see everyone on a  "sometime" basis , until he gets so clean his brain is in shock.

This MAN is all grown now, no longer a KID and you R a full grown woman with CHILDREN. LEAVE!

He is not that adorable and he sure as hell is not cute drunk, stoned and obnoxious.

 

Adultry is a BIG NO, being stoned a double  NO and DRUNK A TRIPLE NOT! You will do better than that and get your self out of reach , no games, gaming and the children do not need any of this in their lives at all. They come first, you second and he is all on his own now, say GOOD-BYE to death basically. He has made a choice and you R not it.

Dopers and Drunks are not a good match for kids or families , especially when arrogance is the key issue here. He is so STUCK ON "DANNY"

Big whooppp!

Gretchen showed up at Danny's door and married him quickly.She wanted to be known.For something.She wanted to be famous.It took her 17 yrs to get folks to recognise her.She accomplished it.She knew it.Remember this...She showed up at his door on a blind date and had sex with him within minutes.Such a Good Girl.

Danny has never done anything for his wife. He's never fought for her in the way that really menas something. He jokes about going right to Starbucks and picking up a girl and can't even see that a husband who can replace you, at the drop of a hat, is not a relationship worth fighting for.

 

Danny may be dry but he is not sober. Until he is serious about what he has done in his life and how to change that behavior he will never be sober!  He is walking around a dry drunk using sex, humor and I suspect other things to take the place of alcahol and drugs. I have known drug addicts who consider there selves sober because they are not using their drug of choice. They will pick up one or two thers but they don't count.

 

He needs counseling and a 12 stet program. 90 meeting in 90 days!

 

DEAR DOC, I HAVE LEARNED OVER THE PAST 16 YEARS OF REVOVERY THAT THE BIGGEST AND MOST IMPORTANT STEP YOU TAKE IS WILLINGNESS WITHOUT CONDITION.I HEARD VERY LITTLE IF ANY FROM DANNY OR HIS WIFE. I AM SHURE YOU REALIZE THEY ARE SEVERLY ADDICTED TO EACH OTHER AND THERE FIRST STEP IS DEALING WITH THAT. IT WAS ALSO VERY OBVIOUS DANNY NEEDS TO TAKE THE COTTON OUT OF HIS EARS AND PUT IT IN HIS MOUTH. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK DOC. I LOVE YOUR SHOW ESPECIALLY ABOUT ALCOHOLICS AND WOULD LOVE TO HELP THEM ANY WAY I COULD I SICERLY MEAN THAT IT KEEPS ME SOBER.

I don't openly tout Jesus, but when I see you sinking in the sea of life I would suggest you consider the hand-up he offers at whatever level you can accept him.

..."Robert has been in rehab six times in the past four years for an alcohol addiction. His 14-year-old daughter, Keryn, pours out his beer daily, cleans up his bloody wounds after drunken falls, and walks him home to prevent the police from arresting him!"

 

This excerpt was from Thursday's show...Remove the name Robert and insert DANNY...remove Keryn and insert Isabella....

 

Dr. Phil removed this man from the home and sent him off to rehab."for however long it takes"...but he lets Danny continue down his destructive path, with his children.  He should've sent him off  WITH Robert for however long it takes to get his life together.

 

Danny is on a lifelong binge and he doesn't want to get better.  He is a petulant child who never grew up.  He may have had a rotten childhood but you know what, he isn't the first and won't be the last.  You learn to overcome the obstacles put in your way and want to be better for your children.  I'm sure he is a great father with them - now...because he is a child himself, but afterwhile, his children will grow up and see the real father he was - and be disappointed.

 

Gretchen - move on with a clear conscience!  You have done everything within your power to make it work.  You and the children deserve a happy life and someone to love YOU and not themselves.

 

Dr. Phil - I am so disappointed.  You claimed to be Danny's friend but a real friend would've told him to stop the BS and get real....

 I cannot believe that Dr. phil didn't tell him ,that he neded to be committed for long term care.This guy has been on a poor me pitty party since the 70's.To tell you the truth i'm really surprised that he hasn;t killed someone already with that temper.Did any of you watch his show for gods sake?His temper is way out there,and do we really want to see another nichole brown simpson happen?I'm sorry but this guy needs more help than Dr. Phil can give him in 20 min. time.As a parent and daycare provider I was totally angry when he made a copie of his penis in front of his son the had him give it to Gretchin,thinking it was funny.What kind of person does that really?.This guy can't be a parent or husband until he gets long term care period.Let it go and i'm sure we will be seeing him on the news with the headline .........Former Child Star kills  and  kills himself. Come on Dr. Phil have this man committed already before anyone else gets hurt.

Did you watch their show on VH1?  Do you remember Danny being diagnosed with (I think) bi-polar disorder or maybe as manic/depressive?   His uncontrollable behavior, rants and rages, and all consuming passions for whatever his fixation is at the time followed by bouts of severe depression that many times lead to suicidal ideations is classic for being manic and depressed. 

 

Danny has no business being with any other person until or unless he can get himself straightened out and can maintain stable emotions and behavior by himself for a long time.   Gretchen saw him through 17 years of extreme ups and downs and yes, she was part of the problem much of the time.  However, when she decided she and the children deserved more and asked Danny to sober up and get psychiatric help she was serious, but he wasn't.  She changed her life to be healthy and good for her.  It wasn't easy getting away from the abusive relationship she was in.  She worked hard on her own issues while still trying to help Danny and it just didn't work.   Danny wouldn't even seriously try to change.  He felt it wasn't necessary.  He actually loves the way he is - did you see him smile and 'puff up' when he was talking w/Dr. Phil about his faults?  He's proud of them because they bring him attention.  Attention of any kind is what makes Danny tick.  Instead of being self sufficient Danny relies on others to satisfy all his needs.  Do you remember the VH1 episodes of Danny teaching his son to swear and curse and how funny he thought it was?  He's sick, and still the immature, obnoxious preteen from 30 years ago.  What good father teaches their 3yr old son to swear and curse at his own mother and thinks it's funny? 

 

Danny's problem is that he likes and is proud of his behavior - loud, wild, and thrives on attention - just as he did as a child actor (and now gets on his radio program and in public appearances).  Only Danny can make himself happy and that can only happen if/when he gets intense help.   Until that happens no woman can satisfy him.  Any woman who is  willing to get herself into a relationship with him is asking for pain and heartache and is looking for more than a loving marriage.  I think 'Amy' wants a taste of celebrity status she thinks he can provide. 

 

I actually feel sorrry for Danny.  He doesn't want to get the kind of help he really needs and which would help him find true happiness and contentment .  I wish he and Gretchen as much happiness as possible - apart.  And their children healthy and mature futures.   

I 'think' that on the VH1 show they addressed the issue of the damage the years of drugs and alcohol did to his brain.  I apologize if I'm mistaken. 

 

What you saw on the program IS Danny.  He is incapable of behaving any differently - as unpleasant as it is to watch and be around.  I truly believe his brain has been damaged by the abuses he's inflicted on his body and that without first class intensive treatment and ongoing counseling and treatment he will never have a chance to change.  Getting him to be a willing participant in any of the above is another story however. 

 

I don't think Dr Phil wanted to bring any of Danny's other problems into the show since the subject was about being ready for and devastating divorces and not about healing all of Danny's many ills. 

 

He's a mess and a train wreck just waiting to happen.  I wonder if Gretchen will be there when he next crashes or if she can stay away and let him get the help he needs all on his own for once in his adult life.  It's hard to stand back and watch someone crash, but it's sometimes necessary to not interfere and let others take charge or for him to do it for himself and not have someone there to support his every move as he's had in the past.  

 

Best of luck to both of them and their innocent children.