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Created on : Friday, October 19, 2007, 01:52:54 pm
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Original Air Date: 10/26/07) What do you do when you’re desperate to hold onto your marriage but your spouse wants out? Dr. Phil’s guest, Danny Bonaduce, became famous as a child star but is now infamous for his very public bad behavior -- loud outbursts, drug addiction and cheating on his wife of 17 years. When Danny last spoke with Dr. Phil, his marriage was on the rocks, but he was learning to live sober and inspire his wife, Gretchen, to trust him again. Now, a year has gone by, and Gretchen has filed for divorce. Danny says Gretchen is the love of his life, and he doesn’t want their marriage to end. But is it too late? Dr. Phil meets with Gretchen separately to find out if there’s still a sliver of hope for them to hold onto. After hearing from Dr. Phil and seeing clips of Danny's conversation, will Gretchen give their relationship another shot? Talk about the show here.


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October 27, 2007, 1:07 pm PDT

My Heart Goes Out to Danny & Gretchen

I avidly watched the series "Breaking Bonaduce" on VH1 and therefore it comes as no surprise to me that the road Danny and Gretchen were already on before and after filming the series led them to this FINAL destination...Danny is clearly NOT ready to end his marriage to Gretchen, however, she IS clearly ready to end their marriage and move on to a happier, peaceful life, which she deserves (they BOTH do)...After having endured 17 years of sadness/anger/jealousy/emotional roller-coaster ride at the hands of Danny, Gretchen has obviously reached her breaking point.  Dr. Phil is 100% CORRECT in his advice that the BOTH of them need to resolve their issues in order to move on with their lives and be THE BEST co-parents/co-allies for their children, Isabella and Dante, who have clearly been "in the line of fire" of these two and shouldn't have to "pay that tab"!  Given Danny's emotional state, (and I DO NOT feel that he was "putting on for the cameras" with his crying and sentiments) he really needs to get a better handle on his life and put all selfishness aside, not only for himself but for the well-being of the children and Gretchen, OR we just might hear a not-too-distant news flash that he has either attempted (again) OR committed suicide...a permanent solution to a temporary problem, in my opinion.  As for Danny declaring that he will most likely (hastily) remarry; this would be a HUGE mistake on his part (and that of the person he decides to remarry) and I hope he seriously considers to HOLD OFF for the time being.  I'm glad that Dr. Phil will continue to counsel them and, as their friend, help them positively move forward with their lives in the right direction.

 

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October 27, 2007, 1:10 pm PDT

10/26 Devastating Divorce

Funny, smart-guy, tough-guy Bonaduce.  Danny is still the selfish train-wreck he has always been.  You could tell Phil had a hard time listening to all of his glib and extreme exploits and still be rational.  Danny loves attention.  The 7 tatoos (can only recognize 5), the starbucks pick-up story, bring a girlfriend to Gretchen's funeral joke, what do you have to drink, which leg do you want to chop off, the threat to anyone who dates her, etc.  And what the heck does that cross-leg seated position mean?  One of these days Danny will pop off to the wrong person and he will be flattened - but it would be similar to suicide-by-cop.  The only ones I feel for are the kids and Gretchen.  She's got to put up with that loser for the rest of her life. 
 
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October 27, 2007, 1:31 pm PDT

I hope Danny reads this!

Danny,
I like you very much. Your intelligence shines through, which is what I find interesting in regard to your self destructive behavior. It seems to me you are operating with a mindset that people CAN/SHOULD be PERFECT. You mentions how Gretchen is "close to being an angel", and, yes, people can be wonderful, but if you are seeking PERFECTION, you will always to be disappointed. Afterall, how PERFECT is a woman who leaves you w/your kids. Yes, I see... you deserved that, you'd say...She is so perfect and you are so flawed, right? Get that thinking out of your head. That is how you justify your continued substance abuse...right? Take that away... and you have no excuse! That's your mindset. 
The tattoos carved into your body (you indicated was an impulsive action) imply to me that  you may see something in those random women that gives you a glimpse of what you percieve as perfection and you immediately think(in the haze of substance abuse)...see PERFECTION  does exist!...let me clue you in...perfection does not exist...love exists, but don't confuse that with some ideal of perfection!   You seem to be in search of something that does NOT exist . STOP IT! I think you even punish youself for not being perfect and are destroying your life/and deeply affecting the lives of  loved ones in the process. I wish you would just accept that humans are by nature both flawed AND good and maybe give yourself a break in knowing that as just a foundational mindset. Also, you needs to recognize that no one can really save you but yourself. Yes, there is help, you won't find it in any woman you meet who shows some kindness to you, but ultimately YOU will need to be the one who stands up and overcomes that flaw that is possessing you. Fight, don't let it win you over. Goodness (NO, not  perfection) has to power to prevail.
Your daughter respects your opinion over anyone else's, it's because she sees what Dr. Phil's audience saw, that is a basically good man with a flaw. Stop searching for perfection and accept the limitations of yourself and others.
All the best to you, Danny.
From--I've seen it before.


 
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October 27, 2007, 2:07 pm PDT

Danny

Danny seriously needs a wake up call.   It's done...it's over.....get over it.   Leave the poor girl alone and let her get on with her life!   You said you would never let another man be in her life!..duhh...OK  O.J.....cuz that's what you sound like!

 

You need serious help.....please get some before you kill her or your children! I  would be scared to death of you...and get as far away as possible...you are a danger to yourself, and to others!

 

Grow up Danny-boy...and please don't drag some poor unfortunate woman into your messed-up life.

 
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October 27, 2007, 2:18 pm PDT

Danny Boy

  You know, they always say a lot can be deduced by body language.  Well, I think Danny showed just how immature he remains when he can't even sit in the chair like a grown man.  More like the five year old boy he continues to act like. 
 
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October 27, 2007, 2:48 pm PDT

Amy

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Danny has never done anything for his wife. He's never fought for her in the way that really menas something. He jokes about going right to Starbucks and picking up a girl and can't even see that a husband who can replace you, at the drop of a hat, is not a relationship worth fighting for.

 

Danny may be dry but he is not sober. Until he is serious about what he has done in his life and how to change that behavior he will never be sober!  He is walking around a dry drunk using sex, humor and I suspect other things to take the place of alcahol and drugs. I have known drug addicts who consider there selves sober because they are not using their drug of choice. They will pick up one or two thers but they don't count.

 

He needs counseling and a 12 stet program. 90 meeting in 90 days!

 

I agree with everything you said.  If Danny wanted to be with his wife why would he tattoo another woman's name on his arm?  It is another attempt to win her back by acting out.  "Mommy" will come back if I am naughty.  IF Amy (or anyone) marries this man in 2 or 3 weeks, after watching him state that he'd trade a leg for his wife back- Then she needs a 12 step program.
 
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October 27, 2007, 3:38 pm PDT

OH Boy

It seems that Danny is already on to his next wife.  He hasn't even gotten out of the first one and is planning for the next.  I think it is sad because the kids will end up hurt in this and also he will bring all of the old baggage into the next relationship(s) he has and if he has another wife right after the divorce.  I think he needs to step back and get his life together before moving on to someone else.
 
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October 27, 2007, 3:58 pm PDT

Devasting Divorce

Seriously Dr. Phil!!  Why are we wasting airtime on Danny Bonaduce?  There are other more worthy stories out there than anything that can or has or will happen in Danny's life.  His wife is or was an enabler. I have absolutely no sympathy for either of them.

 

 
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October 27, 2007, 4:36 pm PDT

Devastating Divorce

I agree with all the postings I've just read on this message board. I hardly think Danny wants or is ready for a wife(a kindred spirit ,soul mate, partner.) It appears he has the need to feed an unsatiable appetite for attention. True love is capable of forgiving every sin that has been commited against it, but true rational love compells one to face the truth as well. This women deserves to be happy too. It sounds to me as if Danny need to be the center of the universe. I don't mean to sound heartless towards Danny but as a wife and mother I can relate 100% with Gretchen. It's her turn to be happy. She gave it her best. I wish her and the kids everything good ,happy and peaceful. I hope Danny continues to get the help he needs to realize how wonderful it feels to actually love someone more then you love yourself. You can't love yourself at the expence of some one else.
 
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October 27, 2007, 4:50 pm PDT

Ms Gretchen Gets it

 I believe Gretchen get's it and has some idea of things to come. Unfortunately it took this wake up call for Danny to want to really change. Been thier done that . Danny is a pretty smart guy and with time will

either accept this ass kicking booze and drugs has given him and that he is totally out of second chances with Gretchen, And focuses on really getting his life back if for no other reason his kids have a good example to follow. Since he is Dr. Phils friend Danny will have to work this out on his own or with his sponser if he has one. Even Gretchen new his sobriety date was questionable but that he is putting up a good fight to stay sober and doing the best she thinks he will for now and it's time for her to move forward with her life . I don't think she should have pushed him toward someone else to take her place because he will most likely use it against her as a ploy to get in her business when she starts to date. I am sure thats what the Doc meant when he kept telling Danny that thier should be know unfinished business when they complete the divorce. Danny had a woman that truly only comes along once in a life time . Just like his show biz career,very few people get a chance to blow something like that . The Doc has a good read on most folks and though he is a friend to Danny I am sure he must have told him in private what he didn't say to him on stage . Danny has to surrender in order to win which I am sure he has heard before in a 12 step meeting before because he said many things that are shared in those meetings so he is listening when he is thier I can tell. If Gretchen just stays on her path and not wiaver or give in to his subtle manipulations she will be fine and he will too.

He is in the pouting stage next is the self pity stage which he is looking for a new hostage to feel sorry for him so he can wallow around in the self pity with an audience then if he falls off the wagon his new hostage will be there to un-tie the rope from his leg when the wagon is dragging him ,if she is smart she will un-tie the rope and ride away with the wagon. I like Bonaduce and think he's a good entertainer paid some dues to be where he is ,which is not super stardum but better than most child stars of his day that are still in the spot light some what. If he crashes and burns due to brooze and drugs it will have been totally by choice . I can tell by his demeanor on stag that he will get through this and be a better person for it. He has been to the bottom ,felt what it's like to be thier and with or without Gretchen I am sure that he is aware and has full knowledge of the fact that if he chooses to go out full bore he isn't comming back from it. And it will be a free will last choice . He knows and everybody that has given him a second chance knows just how many second chances they have given him. It's time to surrender and win Bonaduce.

 
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