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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 8:16 am PDT

I hate that woman

I can't believe how easy everyone was on her.  She is a lying cheating wife.  That wants money.  I can't believe men still have to pay when they find out the child is not theirs.  Women like that make me really sad that she is a mother.   And if I was the daughter I would be furious with her ( the mother).   I feel sorry for him.  I would be so mad that she didn't tell me about the affair.  Anyway I just couldn't believe that show.  And the lawyer you had on the show Gloria whaterver,  she was the most annoying.  I hate lawyers like her.  Go after the real father.  WHAT AN IDEA.  I just can't believe alot of what was going on.  I'm so upset at the show that lawyer.  It's a bad situation you know why because of that woman no one else should be to blame. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:17 am PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

I can't believe that lady is  lawyer. I feel for those fathers that where trapped. I am a mother of three. I had thought that my ex husband was my oldest child father. We did have doubts but HE choose not to get tested. We have seperated after six years and with paturnity test, he was not. I did not want him paying for her. That is not his financial responsability. He doesn't treat her different, his family still treats her as their own. I've even located her father HE pays. I even asked the court for him not to be accoutable for those six years of nonpayment because he didn't know. Maybe some of these mothers who knowingly fraud the system should back pay the child support to the dads they frauded, maybe that will stop some of the fraud
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:17 am PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

Dr. Phil,

Your show today was very intersting, as I had a cousin go through the same situation.  He found out after 12 years that the son he thought was his wasn't, and the mother knew it from the start. 

He is still in the boys life and we still consider him family.  Now the situation today is somewhat similiar in the fact that the mother knew, but the difference is the fathers reaction to it all.  I do not believe that he should be made to pay court ordered child support, but that he should still support the child and continue to be a part of her life.  The mother was WRONG! She knew from the beginning and should have bed adult enough to let him know what she did, and the possibility of parternity.  I feel strongly that the real father should be notified, he should be made to pay for his child.  The mother was acting as if she was wronged in this whole thing, and unfortunately Selena is paying the price for the decisions made by the adults in her life.  I wish her the best.  GREAT SHOW as usual.

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:18 am PDT

it don't make sense

I'm just 21 i don't know everything but i think its stupid that a man has to pay for a kid thats not his.    court ordered or not i wouldn't pay.

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:19 am PDT

How Sad

     I do feel very sad for the daughter.  She also a victim to the situation.  I truly hope that she can receive some sort of councilling.  Even though she says that she is alright, I am sure she is not.  I come divorced parents, who I know love me and deep down I know it was not my fault, but yet I still carry alot on my shoulder. 

     I hate that the "dad" left the daughter.  Yes, financially he should not be responsible, but he should of thought about the daughters pain. 

     The mom I feel is very wrong, and she should not expect the man to pay.  I also understand the desperation she must have felt, and maybe guilt for cheating.  You also have to think of what God expects, too!

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:21 am PDT

parent trap

Why not make it a law in all 50 states that a blood test be given at the time of birth to all newborns to prove parenthood as listed on the birth certificate.  If the father is unknown it would be listed as such on the b.c.  That would stop a lot of deception, maybe make people think twice before hopping into bed with someone they shouldn't.  It's sad that there is more paperwork,  more rules and test and you have to prove who you are before you apply for a drivers license than there is to become a parent.

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:21 am PDT

She led him to believe he was the father...shame on her!

 

I really feel sorry for Salina, She doesn't deserve this, But the real blame should be on the mother, She lied and continued to lie for 9+ yrs, And I'm sure the lie would continue id he wouldn't have asked for a paternity test. I feel she should pay the money back that he has paid her all these years, Everyone wants to blame the man for his actions, He was in shock when he found out that Salina wasn't his child, If you were in his shoes how would you react, I think people need to blame the mother she started this, by being unfaithful to her husband and children, My husband and I are in a similiar situation, His ex-wife came to him after dating for 2weeks, with a pregnancy test, and said she was going to have his baby, The man that my husband is took care of his responsibility and married her, Now he wonders if his oldest is really his, But he's afraid to get paternity, he's afraid of the results, HE LOVES HIS CHILDREN...

 

I hope that Salina and  the man she thought was her father for all these years can get past all the hurt, and maybe one day they can build a relationship again!

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:22 am PDT

Parent Trap

I am appalled at the lady, and the lady's lawyer who think the mother has done nothing wrong and that the father should continue to pay child support. I believe the father did handle it incorrectly but that doesn't make him guilty of comitting a crime. The real victim is the child, but it isn't her former fathers fault it is the mothers fault and the child is directing her anger and dismay to the wrong person. I think the lady lawyer is a typical example of why most people hold lawyers in disgust.
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:23 am PDT

OMG!!

Yes it is about this child, but it is ALSO about adults being allowed to get away with unimaginable deception!!!! If this mother had been sent home from the hospital with another woman's baby and this mom later (no matter how much later) found out she would surely hold the hospital responsible to the highest court possible; however, in all probability the hospital made a horrible MISTAKE!! This my dear was NO MISTAKE. She KNEW she was with more than one 'candidate' around the time this child was conceived!! Regardless of her temporary personal embarrassment SHE HAD AN OBLIGATION AS AN ADULT to tell ALL the guys they "may' be a 'father'. It is UNFATHOMABLE that she can be allowed to withhold this child from relationship with this man who has been her dad if he doesn't PAY!! Are you kidding??? Being a dad because you love and have a bond with a child should not mandate you PAY to see said child. If he CHOOSES to help financially the mother should be absolutely grateful and otherwise SHUT UP!! I feel sure Gloria Alred feels the same way but would never admit it because it would kill her credibility in representing this case!!!!
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:24 am PDT

Parent Trap

Dr. Phil I am writing because after the show today I was ticked at the response Gloria Allred gave about the fathers position on this issue. She never wanted to admit that the mother was dead wrong and the main reason they have a bad situation in the first place which leads me to believe she's probably gained a new client. I totally agree with the wronged father and his wife. While the mother was shaking her head in agrement with anyone who agrred with her position my question is why is money an issue with her if she cared anything about the relationship between her daughter and the man she thought was her father because of her mothers lies. While I agree the way he done it was wrong she still needed to know the truth because all children need to their real parents for lots of reasons and it should have come from the mother and she probably didn't want to tell herthe truth.He should not have to pay child support for her lies!!!! When is she going to take responsibilty for her actions? Its sad because she has probably added to the attitude that the daughter has taken towards her ex. He is a victim and its sad when people do this!!The mother is totally at fault and needs to take responibility and not let off the hook!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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