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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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Dr. Phil, you could have gotten a real lawyer and not Gloria.  What a joke she is.  She was a typical leftist lawyer by not answering the question and trying to push a social agenda instead. 

 

Shame on that mother, shame on Enrique.  They desroyed a child forever!!  That arrogant mother didn't say she knew the father.  She is so self centered!  Money is not the issue.  Relationships are. 

Money is the issue with the Mom.  Dad was spelled as "MD" "paycheck" "Cha ching" not who's the father.

how dare we judge the father, he may have acted out of pain or anger but whatever the case nothing can compare to what the mom did.  He was human.

the only money to this child should be for the "dad" to pay for counseling or place money in an trust where the mon can't get her creedy hands on it.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

new law should be passed

It seems to me that in a case like this the mother should have to pay back all that child support and the father should not be held responsible for anything legaly. I think if there was some sort of law in place to protect men from this that the emotional part wouldn't suffer. The "father" could choose to be that child's father and not be held legally accountable for that child. Then the biological father should be held accountable for something too! I think that maybe if women knew ahead of time that there was going to be legal accountability on their part if they didn't disclose the fact that this child could be somebody else's, then this might not be such a problem. THe mother needs to face some sort of penalty for causing this whole situation. This man was lied to!! Even if the mother wasn't sure who's baby it was, she lied by omission which is still LYING!!!
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

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I think the father made a grave error in how he handled the situation with the little girl. I am sure this will impact her life tragically. .....HOWEVER, I think the mother is despicable.. Her lies have greater repercussions  than mere money. She not only burdened an unsuspecting husband, but the rights of the biological father never entered her mind. The MOTHER  should be held accountable for her lies, both criminally and financially..
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:15 pm PDT

This woman committed fraud

she lied and she knew this child was probably NOT her husbands.  She then continued to defraud him for years. Enriquo should not have to pay 1 cent in support for this child.

The woman SHOULD BE REQUIRED to pay back ALL support she took from Enriquo.

AND, the woman should have to PAY HIM DAMAGES for the fraud she committed.

She should have to spend time in jail.

Women have been getting away with this since the beginning of time. We now have the technology to expose this racket, and that is what it is.

 

IF DNA TESTING IS GOOD ENOUGH TO RELIEVE MEN OF FALSE INCARCERATIONS FOR CRIMES OF MURDER AND RAPE, WITH DAMAGES, IT SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH TO RELIEVE A MAN OF THE LIES AND FRAUD THAT A WOMAN HAS HEAPED UPON HIM.

 

ANY woman that commits this crime AGAINST THEIR OWN CHILD and AGAINST THE ALLEGED FATHER, should be punished for the fraudulent crime.

 

Anything less is purely a sexist result.

Where is the "equality" that Gloria Aldred has based her career upon? She cries out for the rights of the child - that is nonsense. Because the rights of the woman are folded in to such an argument.

The rights of the child should be considered only AFTER fair and equitable treatment is given to the adults.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

parent trap

women should be held accountable , if we expect a man to be accoutable for child support then we as women should also be held up to the same standards. I agree the man on this show was wrong in how he handled the whole thing but there should be laws to help protect the men . I am a mother of 3 and I know my husband never even seen the birth certificate form i filled out for our children. there for I am sure most men are not even aware of the fact that they may be on a birth certificate. I am tired of hearing women say that they want men to take responsabilty but yet they dont
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

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My heart goes out to Selena and Enrique. Her mother took a gamble that no one would find out, and she did not think through the consequences of her lie. Had she stayed married, and Enrique and Selena had found out at a later date that they were not biologically father and daugther, they would both be devastated as well.

 

The mother is ultimately responsible for the pain that she has caused her daughter. When she decided to pretend that Selena was her then husband's child, she had no guarantees as to how he would react when he found out. For ten years she played with his emotions, and today she laughs as she says that he would not have the guts on his own to go and take a paternity test; basically calling him a sucker, because she has been able to get away with her lie so far.  No wonder Enrique was so enraged.

 

She has wronged Enrique and she has wronged Selena, and she needs to take responsibility for her actions.  Selena is her child, and SHE and Selena's biological father are ultimately responsible for Selena; financially and otherwise.

 

It is unfortunate that Enrique was so enraged when he found out, and that he chose to tell Selena in the way he did. But he is human. As an adult who cares for her, he could have a godfather or favorite-uncle type relationship with her; spending time with her, buying her Birthday, Christmas, and just-because presents, showing up for important events, etc. But he should have no legal responsibilities.

 

If the law permitted it, the mother should be made to pay back any child support that was paid to date. That would keep women from putting down the most "confenient" father on the birth certificate.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

Responsibilty

I am astounded to see that these little people are repeatedly let down, by big people responsible for them. If the mother had any doubt of the paternity of her child, she should have stepped up and got a paternity test  early on. Not only is the paying father victimized now, but an innocent little person. Make the mother pay the child support back and call it restitution.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

Parent Traps

I believe that on both side's people are wronged.  Whether it is a father who is accused falsely or a father who denies the child so he doesn't have to pay support.  It would be a smart order for all the world to have mandatory DNA testing on all children.  This way not only is the question taken out of the equation, the parties involved will know the truth, and the children will be able to follow their own genetic trail.  In some instance the mother may not know who the father is, but then she cannot falsely accuse another.

 

I think we have to be held accountable for our actions in life, and I feel that the mother should be ashamed to be so angry in the betrayal she has created, and to feel that part of this is funny.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

Thoughts of a soon-to-be single mother

I am the product of a single mother that never involved the father (NEVER TOLD HIM). I am also a 32 yr old soon-to-be first time mother myself, (SINGLE MOTHER by choice) that sometimes beleive it is best (for reasons like this) to avoid even bothering telling the father.  My mother chose not to tell my father and I am no worse off for it, and if I so chose to go that route with my own daughter, I beleive she will be just fine as well.  No child deserves to feel the pain of rejection, biological father or not - that is really the bottom line.  Certainly the lady lied, however over the years he developed a father-daughter bond with her.  Finding out she was not his biological father is irrelevent, he had a duty as a father (ALL MONEY TALK ASIDE!) to be her father, period.  That does not excuse the mother's role of dishonesty, that was wrong, but I think it's wayy beyond that point now.  Luckily it seems this young lady is going to be fine with all that she's been through at such a young age, but bottom line is they were both wrong in what they did.  What he did was out of revenge to the mother, what she did was out of love for her child and the want she had for her daughter to have a good loving father, guess it didn't turn out as planned.  Hopefully some mother learns from this false sense of security that having man in your child's life is better than no man.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:16 pm PDT

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Quote From: brianwysocki

 I sat and watched Dr. Phil today and the longer that I watched, the more enraged I became!  How dare Enrique be torn apart like that.  He did admit that they way he handled things with Salina was not right.  I am infuriated at Gloria Alred and her complete idiocy!!!!  I want to know why the FRAUDULENT mother is not in jail?  She committed fraud, plain and simple!  How DARE she sit there on her high horse and say that Enrique should be OBLIGATED to continue to pay after what she did and the position that she put everyone else in. 
and I agree with you.... even tho I'm a woman.  Gloria just wanted to promote her book and I'm surprised DrPhil went along with it.  I would have loved to ask her...... if they took pat test when baby was a week old, would he have had to pay support???? NO, NO, NO.!   Why wouldnt the same equation work now??? Geeeeezzz already.
 
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