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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 4:27 pm PDT

So Sad!!

I was saddened by the fact that the "father" actually requested a paternity test.   This case wasn't even similar to that of the guest whose girlfriend got pregnant and then framed him for child support.  Fatherhood isn't always determined by DNA buy by love.  What happened to this man?  Did he trade in his love for this child because he didn't give her his DNA?  I would have hoped that he would never wanted to know the truth because it wouldn't have mattered to him.  Yes, his ex-wife was very wrong, but it has nothing to do with his love for his child and his wanting to continue to support her financially, emotionally, and everyway that he could.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:28 pm PDT

Shame on the mother for lying

I feel for the child.The mother should have to pay some penalty for lying! Maybe repaying every cent of child support this man has had to pay!!What a terrible example she has set for her daughter!!!Lie & deceive people to get what you want. I feel it would be wrong to stop seeing the child. She thinks of this man as her father. He should not have to continue to pay child support.The mother is the one to blame for lying!I feel ashamed to be a woman when I see someone like this lying to trap a man into paying.Face up to your responsibilities.Many of us have raised children without child support or lying to get it. Our children turned out GREAT!!!
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:28 pm PDT

I truly agree with Pinkstar

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AMEN  This mother should be ashamed for even allowing this man to raise her daughter as long as he did. She knew the potential consequenses of an affair and should have taken measures to prevent this dispicable crime against the man and the child. Where is her reponsibility? No one expects their mate to lie. I'm wondering if it has to do with the fact that the man is a doctor.
I could not have said it any better.  She is a liar, a cheat and an adultress!!! I have NO sympathy for her.  I truly feel for Enrique and Selena.  Selena should also be furious with her mother for lying  to her all of her life.  She know from the time she slept with Selena's  father the baby was not Enrigques.  I truly dispise women like that and to make it even it dispise even more men who don't pay child support for their biological children.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:28 pm PDT

paying dad

I have paid child support for over 25 years. What the parent spends the money on is nobodies business but the parents. They may choose to spend it on hair-dos and manicures,,,so what?,,,all that will do is free up some of their own cash so they have more to spend on the child. I also feel that a man should pay child support even if the child is not his,,unless it was a short marriage or union. The thing that is important is the child. The child support will help the child to live a life closer to what they were accustomed to when the people were together and that is what is most important.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:28 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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money can't buy you brains....I'm just a peon, but this lady totally made herself look like an a$$ on the stage.....mom must be paying her some good money....like I said earlier I think she just likes hearing her own voice!
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:29 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

This woman is pure scumb, I feel so sorry for this man. However, he should not have rejected this child. But he should not have to pay child support, he should sue this woman for all the child support.  She is sitting there so smug and no one is blaming her. She ruined this childs life, so the fault lies fairly in her lap. This woman has turned this child against this man.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:29 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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I don't like what the lady did it was wrong and he should not have to pay child support. I am all for DAD RIGHTS WOMEN GET AWAY WITH TOOOO MUCH THESE DAYS AND MEN GET THE BLUNT OF IT....
Are you kidding???!!!  What she did was wrong...but give me a break, men do not get the blunt of it.  Do you not know any women attempting to collect support???  It is next to impossible if the other parent doesnt wish to pay!!!  From what I have seen the nice "guy" always finishes last in the child support court...man or woman.
 

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October 29, 2007, 4:29 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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I think the mother should be held accountable for her actions. She just sat there all smug and no one including Dr. Phil took her to task. If she hadn't had an affair this situation would never have happened. We have a huge problem in this world now a days, no one takes personal responsibility for their actions. It is always someone else's fault. Well I'm sorry that isn't the way it works. You play you pay for any wrong doing you do. That is what should happen! I feel really bad for the dad and the mislead daughter, both were caught up in lies and are the true victims here.
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October 29, 2007, 4:29 pm PDT

Dr. Alred Please Be Quite

Dr. Phil,

Dr. Alred was definately out of place.  The issue or focus of  this show was about the  "FATHER."  And what the Mother did. Not the child.  He  was wronged.  I  feel  the ex-wife should be made  to pay him  back the money  he  gave out of love and ignorance.  Not the biological father as suggested, who doesn't even know.

I feel for the daughter and wished with him that he had handled informing her he wasn't her Dad,  differently. HOWEVER, he was in shock too. When we are in shock, we don't always make the best decisions. There is no initial shock here. But a shock that will take years to disolve.

Any judge that makes a man continue to pay after he finds out he is not the legal father should have his head examined.

Woman would be outraged if their husbands asked for a paternity test on a regular and legal basis. It would cause alot of trouble in any relationship.  I know I would be hurt. But is that what we are coming to?

If I was this man I would sue the ex for re-payment. And if I were a judge I would have the mother do community service and make amends to her daughter to as well in some pratical way. Remembering that she kept her from a relationship with her biological father all this time.

Peace and Love, Vivian


 
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October 29, 2007, 4:29 pm PDT

10 years?

I have to wonder about the REAL reason Enrique decided to destroy his daughter's life.

 

My Ex didn't have a problem claiming his children UNTIL he got remarried adn his NEW wife had a problem with 'HER MONEY' being used for some 'bastard children' that were probably not even my Ex's. It was all about money!

 

I saw Enrique's new wife's ONLY concern was about the money. That is all she talked about. She could care less who was hurt or how it destroyed the relationship Enrique had with his daughter. Enrique had NO problem, BEFORE remarrying, to being a father to both his daughters.

 

I cannot speak to the relationship that Maria and Enrique had, evidently it had LOTS of problems because they got a divorce....hello! The relationship was a bust, and who knows ALL of the reasons, that is NOT our business. But, they had two children which Enrique accepted responsibility for from the moment they were born and loved from that moment UNTIL his current wife became wrapped up in the MONEY. But, Enrique, who had doubts, according to his own statements about Maria's fidelity and NEVER BROUGHT IT UP, accepted Selina as his and went on to have another daughter in the relationship. DUH!

 

Biology does NOT make a parent, otherwise all adoptions would end up disasters. Enrique, even thought he stated he had doubts, accepted and LOVED and nutured Selina, gave her the security of a father-daughter relationship only to DENY it all when Mia got pissy about MONEY! You have to wonder what kind of 'control' she has over Enrique to have him deny his child. Yes, his child.

 

I have a real problem with money grubbing second wifes who could give a damned about how they hurt and damage children's lives. The very idea that some low life woman who is so insecure in her new relationship or is so shallow as to only see the dollar sign is not made financial responsible for the damage SHE has done to innocent children should be your NEXT topic, Dr Phil!

 

BTW, my Ex, thru his second wife, publically denied his paternity and publically asked for paternity tests, in an effort to make me drop the demand for child support.  I said, go for it! Get the paternity tests! It never went further, except for the second wife to continue to call my children 'bastards' in public. I don't care about defending myself, I KNOW the truth, but, my children sufferred. I have two daughters who cannot commit to relationships and a son who was so angry, I had to take him out of public schools. They now have a REAL dad, who was NOT allowed to adopt them, because of my EX, a wonderful man who stepped up and tried for the last 10 years to erase the hurt, but, I will tell you this.....the hurt is ALWAYS there and it will NEVER go away.

 

 
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