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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 7:55 pm PDT

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I think the main thing that should be considered here is the child. If he truly loved Selena, then it wouldn't have mattered at all who the biological Father was. It's almost like he said, since I'm not your Father, then I don't love you anymore. Anyone can Father a child, but it takes love and undestanding to be a Dad. I have a grandson who is not the biological child of the man that he calls Daddy, but in my son-in-law's eyes and in his heart, he couldn't be any more of a Father, if he were the biological parent.

The parents should have dealt with this situation privately and tried to to find some way to handle it without Selena getting hurt in the process. Selena never lied to anyone, she just loved her Father with all her heart and got her heart broke in the process.

 
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October 29, 2007, 7:55 pm PDT

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Are you kidding me?

 

WHere is Gloria's responsibility in all of this?

If she had conned this man out of money in any other way, she would be in jail right now.

What she did is not less criminal. That is what you should be focused on!

 

The child might very well have been created under his roof, but he did not create her. I wonder why you are so interested in defending this obviously amoral woman?

This happens in alot more families than you know.  We all have our skeletons.  I bet you do too.
 
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October 29, 2007, 7:56 pm PDT

could he have full rights?!

I think that if the man in this situation was paying child support he should be entitled to full custody rights.  On the other hand it is a good man stepping up and allowing the real father to get off scott free.

 

DON'T LIE AND CHEAT!!

 

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October 29, 2007, 7:56 pm PDT

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A woman strikes again, go figure.  As a woman who came from a broken home with a dad who never paid child support, I can see why he didn't.  If I had been him, I wouldn't have either.  Men are so wronged when it comes to child support, especially those who are not the father.  I can see where Engrique might thave done what he did, not that I agree with it.  But I challenge ANYONE to come forward that hasn't said something they regret out of anger that they wish they could take back.   He knows what he did was wrong and ANYONE can see that, but he shouldn't have to pay for his EX-WIFES infadelity.  She is nothing but a money hungry whore who saw the opportunity and took it.  How dare her to expect this man, after finding out, that the child he had known for 10 years to be his, isn't.  Now, what he did with that information was wrong, I am not disputing that, but at the same token, he shouldn't have to dish out an extreme amount of money every single month to his EX-WIFE for another man's child.  Find the real daddy for that.  What he should have done was sat down with Salena and the mother and explained to her, because she does have the right to know that he is not her real dad, and then told her that he still loved her and wanted to be a part of her life but then given her money for things she may need or want if need be, not pay the ex a dime.   Woman are such money hungry you know what's and they get on my ever lovin' nerve.  Yes, I agree that their are decent woman who deserve to have child support from their significant others, but now aday's, those decent woman are hard to come by, most of the time, they are just money hungry, try and take them for all she can, woman out their and that just MAKES ME SICK TO MY STOMACH, using those children as pawns.  Men shouldn't be treated in this manner, they too have rights like everyone else.  I am just sure you would be all to happy to dish out an ungodly amount of money every month to someone you found out cheated on you.  You can say you would do it without hesitation, but I bet you wouldn't if it actually came down to it.  Like I said, he shouldn't have turned Salena away like that, it was not her fault, and yes, the child does come first, but come on now, you're not teaching that child anything except that is ok to sleep around on your husband and then use him to bleed him of all his money.  She deserved to know that she had a different father, the manner in which it was done, was not right, but she still deserve to know.  I promise you, when she gets old enough to really understand what has happend, she is going to be so pissed at her mom.  She might then understand at some point, why Enrique did what he did, not that she will forgive him for the manner in which it was done, but she will see his point of view at some level.  Anyone who makes money and works very hard for it just to have it be stolen from you in that manner would see that.  It is the same as if someone broke into your home every month and robbed you of everything you worked for that month for something that you didn't do.

Just one thing...not all women are money hungry you know whats...there are good women out there who would never lie to their husbands, or cheat. I hope you do realize this!!
 
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October 29, 2007, 7:56 pm PDT

disgusting!!!

I watched the show this evening and found myself very angry!!!   I have seen many men get screwed for child support, and it is wrong.  I think Maria should have to pay back every dime!  I believe Maria knew from the very beginning and what she has done is wrong.  I agree that the way the father dealt with the situation was not good, especially considering that the child is innocent, but the parent she should be angry with is her mother, her mother lied and cheated at the father's and the childs expense....shame on her!!!!
 

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October 29, 2007, 7:58 pm PDT

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I think if this woman lied about knowing he was not the father...she gives mothers a bad name! She not only lied to the man she was married to,she also lied to the biological father. Is this really fair? I don't think its fair that the ex-husband has to continue paying child support BUT it upsets me that he doesn' t want to continue seeing his DAUGHTER. It might not be his biological daughter but he raised this girl...what is he thinking?

You could tell that the ex-husbands new wife wore the pants in his new relationship...so is that why he won't see his daughter? If so, that woman should be ashamed of herself!! Being a good role model should be the most important thing...I would think, obviously not!

I just hope that this family doesn't keep on fighting esp in front of the children. I hope the father will finally get his head out of his butt and get his priorities straight and start taking his other daughter also. I wish them luck!!

She does indeed give ALL women/mothers a bad name.  No wonder a good man is so difficult to find.  When there are so many conniving theives to deal with, why should a man believe that this one would be different.

 

This father should be grateful for time he has with the child and cherish absolutely every second he has.  They grow up far too fast and then they are gone.   You spend the rest of your life wishing you had done something differently.  It should never be that we withheld love from a child that loved us so unconditionally.

 

This childs biological mother should be held accountable by the courts for her fraudulent charges against this man as this 'wrongful accusation' has cost both her child and ex-husband undue pain and this man financial responsibility for a child that is not his.  If this caused financial hardship, he should sue this woman using the DNA test as evidence and attempt to recover his funds.

 

Additionally had SHE used her brain she might have found this man willing to provide far greater sums of money to support this child simply out of love and not from being forced to do so.  Stupid woman!

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:00 pm PDT

Ummm

Ok for starters, that women who had an affair is cold and heartless. She made the first mistake of having an affair to begin with. That was a really stupid choice. Also, I would never pay for a baby that wasnt mine, you want child support? Go get your own you stupid liar. I hate people who lie like that. I hate people cheat. I think its cold and heartless. I KNOW that any human being with common sense knows that he should not be paying child support, and I knew dr phil would see that. If they said "Pay or jail" I would say "You can throw me in jail, but that wont get you your child support paid"

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:01 pm PDT

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Today's story is very sad. Selena is the victim. Adults need to start owning up to their mistakes and take responsibility. In this story,both the ex-wife and the current wife are greedy.

Also, men need to take responsibility for their lives. If you don't want children, don't have sex, especially if you are not married. It takes 2 to have a baby and 2 to raise one! Unfortunately we live in an imperfect world.

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:01 pm PDT

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How can you say.... " Havin to love everyone to go to Heaven, yes"????? It's like you don't love the child but if you pretend to, then you will make it to Heaven...... do you really think that you are fooling God???

 

Im not saying this is about your situation but, if men weren't all about sex and getting with women, then there would be a LOT less paternity problems out there!!! So I say..... "BLAME THE MEN"!!!!

BLAME THE MEN!!!!!!!!!  How dare you!!  If I am not mistaken it was the woman that was cheating on her husband!  It sounds to me like it was the woman that was “all about sex and getting with” men.  Women are just as guilty of looking for sex as men!  One would be naïve to believe that womaen don’t look at men and think comments like “what I would do to him”, “come to Momma”, etc.  So, maybe if men wouldn’t trust women (like the one at hand) then there be a LOT LESS paternity problems out there. 

 

By the way, don’t give advice in areas that you are not educated or practice.  You might want to worry more about your own “casting of judgment” before you advise someone else on how to get to Heaven!!  Your ignorance to the facts in this debate made you look like the fool here.  NOT THE MEN!!!

 

One thing is blatantly obvious here, a man has hurt you pretty bad and you now take it out on all men.  All men didn’t hurt you and if it was more than one man, then maybe it is time to re-evaluate yourself.  

 

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A WOMAN

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:01 pm PDT

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Selina was born to this man and woman through wed-lock. Selina called him daddy and only knew him as her dad. That is who you should be focused on. If we were talking about a piece of furniture here, you can bet he would have taken half of it!!!  He needs to pay for this child that was created under his roof. He held her and fed her and paid for her well being for ten years. It is not the childs fault. I do believe the mother has learned from this just like God would want her too. She met her demons and has to pay the price while she watches her daughter suffer from the loss of her father. Until you have been through something like this none of you can imagine what it is like!! 
Tell me, please, how does smiling and blaming the one you have decieved, help you meet your demons? Please, please wake up!
 
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