Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

The mother who lied about the child paternity, and then sued the father for child support....my God, this woman first of all should not be a mother. She is unfit! Her low morals caused this whole mess...then she lied for years. Now her daughter is emotionally damaged. Her daughter will be emotionally stunted all her life and most likely have bad relationship, after bad relationship....because her mom had no morals, or social responsibility. She cheated,  lied and knew all along she was lying to her daughter also. Years down the road when her daughter is crying and can't have a good relationship...let's see if she is laughing then. She showed no remorse....woman like that gives us all a bad name.....she obviously does not have the mother gene.....she showed that when she smirked and thought this whole thing was a joke - the pain she caused her daughter is unrepairable...and she thinks that is funny!

She needs some therapy.....God help the new husband....hope she doesn't get pregnant again. She will do the same to him....geese, why doesn't this woman get sued for fraud. She broke the law and committed a felony...she should be sued. I'll help pay to put this woman behind bars....and away from those poor kids...God help them, they will need all the help they can get with a mother like that!     

Though I'm not married nor have children, I can only imagine the pain Selena is going through and her older sister seeing this.

The entire scene tonight was pretty ugly.  You have a deceitful so called wife and a husband who can throw his so called child to the curb.  Selena is the innocent one here and I can't even begin to imagine what she went through knowing her older sister was still wanted.  Maria should've disclosed this long ago and if Enrique ever had questions he too should've asked.  This was between Maria and Enrique and not his wife as I think she added a lot of fuel to the fire - and I'm not saying rightfully so but think she could've taken a better stance on this.  Again, it's about Selena.  Is Maria right?  Heck no!  Was Enrique in taking Selena to the park, saying the things he did and then dropping her off?  That was just down right WRONG!  I don't think either parent handled this correctly and it put both Selena and her sister in the middle knowing the older child has relations w/Enrique.

Now do I think he should have to pay child support?  No I don't but it doesn't mean he has to throw a 10 year relationship out the window and hurt an innocent child and her older sister.  Has no one thought that the older sister, Enrique's child, could be affected by this as well?  Now Maria, yes she was just way to humble and too smiley, smirky etc.  I don't like women who are out to screw men and the jury is a little out on that one still but .......... because he is not the "real" father, I don't think he should pay.  If he wants to or pay a small amount that is up to him.  As stated earlier in the show, why hasn't there been any contact to who the real father is? 

As for infidelity, it happens on both sides.....men and women. 

Let's concentrate on the real subject - the two girls!  The parents need to grow up and Enrique's wife needs to button up some.  At least Maria's husband kept fairly quiet and has offered to adopt Selena.

I do believe Enrique's heart is in it - though think he's way too influenced by his wife and has been.

Think of the children, their hearts, their lives and how it's reflecting them and again I'm referring to both girls as it has to affect Ariceli's as well.

Thank goodness Carnell Smith was on this show!  He said everything a lot of us were thinking at home!  He made Gloria Allred look like a FOOL, even though she was so condescending to him to begin with.  That was great.  Each statement he made to her was SO eloquent, and so RIGHT ON, that several times she had nothing to say to contradict him.  He was awesome!

Gloria Allred has fought for a lot of great causes, but she was WAY OFF on this one.  She tried to blur the issues, but nobody was buying it. 

The mother is 100% responsible for ALL of this!  She and her husband(?), as well as Gloria Allred, tried to make it about Enrique's bad reaction, but there wouldn't have BEEN a reaction but for her actions!  He admitted that he could have handled things better, but he was also dealing with some MAJOR trauma himself!  So he sincerely apologized, and would like to mend his relationship with the daughter.  That is ALL he is responsible for!

I think Enrique should sue the mother for fraud, and should be awarded EVERY PENNY he paid her in child support he was not responsible for, because she DELIBERATELY didn't have the paternity test done at the beginning, which would have resolved that issue immediately.  She is horrible for what she's doing!!

Best of luck to you, Enrique, and THANK YOU CARNELL SMITH!!!

First, Dr. Phil, I feel that you "dropped the ball" on this one. You are great, don't get me wrong. However, you personally have never had to deal with a Ex with children involved. Until you are in the shoes on this one, you have no idea what plays in this game.

Also, you "lost it" at the end of the show with Mia. And to be honest, I was shocked with your tone, and attitude towards her.

Mia, my hat is off to you. I am a Step Mom also and until you have walked in our shoes, there is nothing to say to us. Keep standing by your Husband and stay strong. Also, by all means, you need to speak up and express your thoughts, feelings on this matter and all matter that concern your Family. This is your family and any and all matters do concern You..

Enrique, I am so sorry this situation has happened to you and your entire family. I do understand your reaction to the action. And I know if you could go "back", talking to Selina would have been done different. However, I feel that we all do what we think is best at the time. And sometimes it's right and other times we are wrong. I can feel and see the "loss and pain" you are having were Selina is concerned.

Please, keep trying to reach out to her. Even if you just start with writing to her. You need to be the one to reach out. And keep trying.

Carnell Smith.. Way to Go.. I wish there would be a entire show just on YOU.. I really wanted to hear more from you. I will check out your web site. Good luck and keep up the great work.

Gloria Allred. I was a huge fan of yours, until todays Show with Dr. Phil. I am still shaking my head when I hear or think of your "thoughts". Sorry, but this Women will not be supporting your book or any advice or shows in the future.

Maria's New Husband. Please excuse me, I forgot your name. I do want to tip my hat to you, for being a wonderful Step Parent to both of these girls.

However, my RED LIGHT came on while I was watching the show and watching you. And that Red Light is that I really hope that you give this entire situation, from A to Z.. great thought.. I have to question if you are not "thinking" about the fact that... Past actions do predict the future actions. Wishing you the best of luck. As we all know, you are going to need all the luck you can get with this Women you are with now.

Maria. I am sure you have "got" the point of the majority on this matter. The only thing I wish to say to you is, that you need to get some counseling and work towards "shutting your mouth" were Enrique and Selina relationship is concerned. These two and also the other daughter, need to rebuild their relationship, which YOU destroyed.

Rest assure, this little girl, will grow up and everything will be crystal clear to her. And if you do not stop the damage you are doing now, it will hit you in the tail in years to come.

I'm so sick over this show.  Because of this show, I registered on Drphil.com just to leave a message on the board. 

Yes the child comes first.  BUT the child would have never been in this position if her mother didn't lie in the first place.  How selfish of that woman to string her husband along for all these years and taking a chance on her daughter’s emotions later in life.  And then her expecting him to pay child support?!?!?!?  Yes he raised the child for nine years, however, did so knowing that she was his daughter.  I wonder if the mother had said something in the very beginning, what then would have happened?  Who would then be the hurt ones?  Just the adults?  Would he have stayed around?  That mother is HORRIBLE, DECEITFUL and just watching her snide expressions made me sick.  Her expressions showed that all she cared about was to get him back for all he did. 

The gentlemen sitting next to the loudmouth female attorney (can't stand her, feel she just wants to be in the lime light) should truly be a spokesman for all men going through this.  He debated with loudmouth very well and put her in her place, in my opinion.

This is one show that made me sick to my stomach.  That mother absolutely disgusted me.  She just needs to leave be and let the lives of all be at peace and forget about MONEY.  Money shouldn't even be a consideration.  PEACE is all that should be considered…PEACE and the well being of her daughter.

DISGUSSTED!

Gloria Allred summed it up very well it is about the Child!!  I am disgusted with this guy and it is all about the money.  What he did to that young girl is sick and very selfish.  His tears meant nothing when you've seen the tears of a child over the loss of a parent who is still alive.  He should have continued to see her no matter what.  I have worked with abused children and also had personal experience of watching the pain of my own children as their father abandon them.