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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 30, 2007, 3:59 pm PDT

Mis is a fraud

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Again, this is all about telling the truth and being honest. It was a difficult decision for me to bring it to Enrique. I never wish suffering on someone else. No one wants to deal with situations like our at any time in life, especially when they're celebrating a new marriage. My heart goes out to any child who has to suffer anywhere in the world for any reason.

Children worldwide are suffering needlessly for one reason or another. It does not matter what you believe, just pray or send positive energy and envision a better world for us all. Today's children will be our future!
 No this is about keeping your big mouth SHUT, when opening it can bring suffering on an innocent child.  Children are suffering because of people like YOU.  Pray?? You sound like one of those santimonious people who trample over anyone and everyone all the while denying that you are doing it.  Got your number Miss Mia. 
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:02 pm PDT

TRUST NEEDS TO BE EARNED

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If my wife asked me to take a lie detector test to see if I had been cheating on her in our marriage. I would not hesitate to comply and I would not be angry or distrudtful of her. So why should you be upset if your husband/boyfriend asks you for a DNA test. Trust needs to be earned. Because in this day and age there is a lot of deceit going on. Ever watch the TV show "Cheaters"? By the way we have been married 46 years with 6 children and 30 grandchildren and 2 great grandchildren..
YOU KNOW MY HUSBAND HAS THAT EXACT OPINION AND TO BE HONEST I'M STARTING TO FEEL THAT WAY MYSELF HOWEVER TRUST SHOULD BE EARNED BEFORE YOU SAY I DO THATS THE PROBLEM AND WHY THERE IS SO MUCH "DECEIT GOING ON" TODAY BECAUSE PEOPLE DON'T GET TO KNOW AND TRUST THEIR SPOUSE BEFORE SAYING I DO.......SO ONCE AGAIN I STAND BY MY COMMENT AND IF MY HUSBAND CAN'T TRUST ME NOW THEN YOU BETTER BELIEVE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO TRUST HIM AND I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG OUR MARRIAGE WOULD LAST MARRIAGE IS BUILT ON LOVE AND TRUST
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:02 pm PDT

I AGREE MIA DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG!

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I AGREE MIA DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG AND I DON'T SEE HOW ANYONE COULD SAY OTHERWISE AND AS FAR AS MONEY GOES HOW CAN ANYONE EXPECT TO SUPPORT THEIR NEW FAMILY HAVING TO PAY FOR ANOTHER WOMANS MISTAKE CHILD SUPPORT IS A TOUGH ISSUE BUT THIS CASE IS A NO BRAINER
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:05 pm PDT

WHAT ABOUT THE MOTHER?

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I'll answer your question of  "Why should anyone be held financially accountable for anything that is not theirs."    Because, this isn't a THING, it's a CHILD.  A child raised by a man called "daddy" for 10 years. 

 

You also say " If the courts want to hold anyone accountable, it should be the mother."  OBVIOUSLY, genius.  FIND a way to hold her "accountable" or to punish her WITHOUT also punishing the child by helping the dad abandon her.

 

Now, let me ask you a question:  HOW IS IT JUSTICE FOR THE CHILD TO HAVE HER FATHER ABANDON HER AFTER RAISING HER FOR 10 YEARS?  LEST YOU ANSWER TO SOME OTHER QUESTION, LET ME REPHRASE AND CLARIFY:  DOES IT SERVE THE CHILD WELL TO HAVE HER FATHER ABANDON HER?

Think about your honest answer here, then realize what must be done.

WHY DOESEN'T THE MOTHER WANT TO SUPPORT HER OWN CHILD. SHE SAY'S MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE THEN LET HER PAY FOR HER OWN CHILD.......
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:07 pm PDT

PARENT TRAP

I HAVE NEVER WRITTEN TO A SHOW BEFORE BUT AFTER WATCHING THE SHOW ON MONDAY I FELT COMPELLED TO WRITE. MY HEART BREAKS FOR THIS YOUNG GIRL AND CAN COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE MUST FEEL BECAUSE I HAVE LIVED IT. AT THE AGE OF 13 YEARS OLD I WAS TOLD IN A FIT OF RAGE THAT THE MAN THAT HAD RAISED ME  WAS NOT MY FATHER.I AM NOW 58 AND STILL FEELS THE EFFECT OF IT. I ALWAYS FELT LIKE I WAS NOT A TRUE SISTER TO MY OTHER BROTHERS AND SISTERS. I KNOW LITTLE OF THE SITUTATION BUT KNOW IT DESTROYED MY LIFE. MY PARENTS NEVER WANTED TO TALK ABOUT IT AFTER I WAS TOLD SO WHAT LITTLE INFORMATION I HAVE I HAVE PULLED OUT FROM OTHER PEOPLE. THERE ARE REALLY NO FEELINGS TO EXPRESS WHAT SOMETHING LIKE THIS CAN TO DO A YOUNG CHILD, ESPECIALLY A GIRL. SHE WILL SEEK EXCEPTONS WHERE EVER SHE CAN GET IT.TO TELL A CHILD LIKE SHE WAS TOLD WAS JUST WRONG. I PRAY FOR HER AND OTHERS LIKE HER THAT THEY CAN FIND PEACE OF MIND AND STAY STRONG FOR THEIR FUTURE. THIS SHOW TOUCHED ME LIKE NO OTHER HAS. THANK  YOU...
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:08 pm PDT

HELLO

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 No this is about keeping your big mouth SHUT, when opening it can bring suffering on an innocent child.  Children are suffering because of people like YOU.  Pray?? You sound like one of those santimonious people who trample over anyone and everyone all the while denying that you are doing it.  Got your number Miss Mia. 
THE MOM MADE A CHOICE TO LIE TO HER OWN CHILD. SHE SHOULD HAVE KEPT HER LEGS SHUT. SHE IS A LIAR. IF SHE HAD TOLD THE TRUTH NO ONE WOULD BE IN THIS MESS. WHY DOES SHE NOT WANT TO SUPPORT HER OWN CHILD. I'VE GOT YOUR NUMBER TOO. IT'S EASY SITTING THERE MAKING JUDGMENTS ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW! MARIA'S THE ONE STEALING THE MONEY AND LIEING, NOT MIA! GET A CLUE!
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:10 pm PDT

accepting responsibility

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 Perhaps you might believe your own convoluted tripe, but it does not resinate with me.  What a 10 year old NEEDS is the love of her father that she has known ALL her life.  When she is an adult then she MIGHT benefit knowing her sperm donor dad.  And I say might????? The man who loved and took care of her is her 'real' dad.  At 10 she doesn't need to know her medical history.  Her mother knows the truth and can take care of that if there is some emergency.
 The fact that you blame what you did on your own daughter is contemptuous.  You just go from bad to worse. 
Some are going to be blinded to your evil with the outrageous behavior of the mom and dad, but YOU lady are the REAL problem in THIS story.  YOU should have kept your thoughts and words to yourself.
Since you are a big one on praying I suggest you pray for forgiveness for bringing all this pain and suffering on this beautiful child.  Yes you have participated in tearing a family apart.  You have NO compassion.  Now you want everyone to have peace.  Too late lady, your evil has done it's job.

I think the Dad of 10 years was wrong in the way he told his daughter of 10 years that he was not her biological father.  The mother, the daughter and he should have had a conversation all together.  The father telling his daughter that he "isn't her real dad" is no different than any parents telling their children, at the right time, that they're adopted.  I believe that is the right thing to do. I feel they should be allowed to know who their real parents are.  Women who sleep around should not be married,  women who sleep around should not have children and the woman in this case should have, right from the beginning accepted responsibility for her actions, told the truth about her daughter not looking like her "father" and if this had all taken place at birth or shortly there after NO ONE would be going through so much pain right now.  There should be a law to punish the mother in this instance. She doesn't deserve a penny of child support.  I say, women today want to be independent, let them raise and support their children themselves. In most instances, when women want a divorce, it's because they're involved with another man anyway, so either go it alone and be independent or get the new Mr. Wonderful to support your kids.

 

 
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October 30, 2007, 4:11 pm PDT

WHY SHOULD TELLING THE TRUTH BE WRONG?

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 Perhaps you might believe your own convoluted tripe, but it does not resinate with me.  What a 10 year old NEEDS is the love of her father that she has known ALL her life.  When she is an adult then she MIGHT benefit knowing her sperm donor dad.  And I say might????? The man who loved and took care of her is her 'real' dad.  At 10 she doesn't need to know her medical history.  Her mother knows the truth and can take care of that if there is some emergency.
 The fact that you blame what you did on your own daughter is contemptuous.  You just go from bad to worse. 
Some are going to be blinded to your evil with the outrageous behavior of the mom and dad, but YOU lady are the REAL problem in THIS story.  YOU should have kept your thoughts and words to yourself.
Since you are a big one on praying I suggest you pray for forgiveness for bringing all this pain and suffering on this beautiful child.  Yes you have participated in tearing a family apart.  You have NO compassion.  Now you want everyone to have peace.  Too late lady, your evil has done it's job.

YOU GIVE WOMEN A BAD NAME WHEN YOU SAY IT'S OKAY TO LIE, CHEAT AND STEAL! GIVE ME A BREAK!
 
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October 30, 2007, 4:13 pm PDT

make it personal

 I find it very unfair to insist that a man who has been tricked into believing a child is his when the mother knew or possibly knew it was not his to have to continue paying child support.  The mother should be held responsible and should have to stand before a judge, rather than the man who has been victimised.  The emotional bond is most important and the hopes I think of most is that the man who thought he was the father all of these years could still  keep this bond.  But let's be realistic.  We are all human and seperating the anger and feelings of betrayal from the bond he has created has to be difficult.

 

I don't believe he should remain financially responsible.  Let the mother find the biological dad and pay the tricked man back his money.  She started the mess.  She needs to take repsonbility for some of the resolution.  The man shouldn't have to battle it out in courts!

 

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October 30, 2007, 4:13 pm PDT

It's time to get a good night's sleep...

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What part of that did you not get? It's the mother who is saying no. Did you not hear Dr. Phil ask her mom why she is cutting him off?

You are the one not getting it...  I'm addressing one thing in my post, and you are responding to another.  If what I'm referring to is not evident to you, then don't worry about it.  I certainly wouldn't want you to strain yourself trying to engage me in this lively discussion.

 

I've read your posts.  You call some people psychopaths for disagreeing with you, and you have written things such as "....these women are ruining our country and need to be stopped immediately!"  This is a direct quote from one of your previous pearls of wisdom.  Who were you referring to, exactly?  How many women are we talking about?...  (Don't bother yourself trying to actually answer these questions, they are rhetorical).  Anyway, you're awfully young to be a misogynist.

 

Isn't it past your bedtime?  Nighty, night.

 

 

 
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