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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 2:10 pm PDT

So completely unfair to be frauded!!!

How completely terrible is this??? Maria should be so horribly ashamed!!! I think SHE should have apologized to her daughter for decieving her. Selina was frauded just as much as Enrique!!! Both of them lost something in the translation. I think Maria seems completely unremorseful, and in so shows just how little she cares about her exhusband, her own lack of moral and her children! Sadly, I also think Enrique did something wrong in how he handled the situation, but I believe that was just a knee jerk reaction to the pain and deception he felt he had been victimized by. Such feelings can cause bad decision making ability, but he seems genuinely sorry and I hope his daughter finds it in her heart to give him another chance. As for the money, I think Enrique and his wife Meia feel victimized further by having to pay child support to Maria. So perhaps Enrique could prove to Selina it is not about the money by opening a savings account and depositing money in that for her future college education, seeing to it that Maria does not see  a dime. I think that would solve alot of the argument about the money.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:10 pm PDT

When will we be responsible?

Since when is it ok to blame someone else for your own actions?...much less, make them pay for them...literally!?  No, I do not think the way this Dad handled the situation was appropriate, but there's NO WAY I would pay for someone else's mistake.  I believe this should be a voluntary relationship and the mother should pursue the biological father.  I would also be careful as the new husband...she obviously isn't the most trustworthy wife.  And the female attorney (can't remember her name)...I'd really like to give her an attitude adjustment!!!

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:10 pm PDT

men and child support

well what about women who r court ordered to pay child support and never do pay a dime and they get away with that legally.     Why is this?  Everyone wants to jump on the man but who ever gets on the ladies that dont pay there support?
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:10 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

A man should not have to pay for a child that is not his. Dr. Phil said that the child comes first and money second. That is real easy for someone with all his money to say, but when a man is living paycheck to paycheck paying for  a child that is not his is just not right! The mother should be taking all the responsibilty for how this will effect the daughter...not the guy that has been hoodwinked by the adult mother that strayed. Not only is the daughter a victim here but so is the man, so who is going to pay for his therapy and handle his issues Dr. Phil?

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:10 pm PDT

DNA Checkoff

I believe in order to put a fathers name on the birth certificate, there should be a DNA test required. If the father to be listed refuses the DNA, he could be held financially rsponsible in the future. If the man in the fatjer's role is not the Biological father, he should not be held to child support in the event of future breakup. All states or Federal government should initiate this to reduce false information being given by the mother.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

Parent trap

That woman should take total responsibility for what she did!  Enrique didn't do anything but  trust her that Selina was his child.  He should NOT have to pay her money for the next 5 years!  He should be allowed to continue a loving relationship with the girl as a voluntary act of love.  I think Maria got off Waaaay too easily.  Dr. Phil, you should have bitten her head off! 

       Gloria Allred was embarrassing!  She's full of it!  All she cares about is having a platform to expound upon.  She missed the whole point!  I am a woman, but I think Dr. Phil lets the cheating women off much more lightly than he does the men.  Sorry, Dr. Phil!

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

at what price?

I don't agree with the mom lying about the paternity but I could understand being scared to tell him the truth.  At the time the adultery occurred, she probably wanted to put the past mistake behind her and move forward, never thinking that years later they would be divorced. I'm not condoning what she did, just trying to have some compassion. I can understand how hurt he must have felt as well, but I don't think he handled the situation well at all. I don't think that it's a question of whether he should or shouldn't pay child support for her, but whether he wants to continue to care for her, both financially and emotionally.  I can't imagine not wanting to buy clothes and presents and toys for my children, even if for some reason I lost them.  A DNA test shouldn't determine whether you stop seeing your child, or stop supporting her.  If you love her, you take care of her, emotionally, physically, everything, period!  The bigger issue is the blatant disregard for the consequences that people have these days when it comes to sleeping with each other. Where is the biological father? What happened to people waiting until marriage to have sex?
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

Nope, Not About Money-It's Criminal

This isn't about money, it's about fraud.  The bio-Mom should pay back the money that she got fraudulently.  The Dad, as a victim, has earned the right to full visitation with his daughter.  Fair is fair. 

 

  The daughter should not be further troubled with her Mother's little mistakes.  (Getting pregnant with another man's baby and asking her husband to pay for the support.)  The Mother should be made to settle her own misdeeds without further hurting her daughter.  Where is equal protection under the law for the father named for child support -who is not the father?  Why is the Mother not held responsible here?  We want equal rights- correct?  Well?  Pay back what you took, pay it like a man or go to jail like a deadbeat Dad.  You are a deadbeat Mom!!  Give him back the money you defrauded from him.  Name the real father and see if you can get some child support from him.  No matter what you get from the bio-Dad (or don't get) you owe your EX the money you stole from him!

 

In my opinion the Mother here- is a criminal.

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

Stop comparing apples to oranges

A court order to pay child support does not guarantee involvment in the child's life from the psuedo father. So this poiint is without merit. Since the proponents of this measure stress that money is secondary then rescend the order and the psuedo father can continue to choose to be involved with the child.

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

Mother who TOTALLY agrees with father

 I am a mother of 3 children (all from the same father, my husband) and I am kinda embarrassed at how Gloria totally beat around the bush with the TRUE topic.  If a father does the right thing (in his mind) and finds out later that the mother lied SHE is the accountable one!  If the father is a good one, he will still be involved with the child BUT should not be forced to pay anything.  If ladies would keep their legs closed when they are committed the men will have no way to get them pregnant!  How rediculous for a women to cheat on her significant other, LIE about a child, then have the nerve to be mad because he doesn't want to support the child anymore.  I love my husband with all my heart BUT I made sure that I, as a woman, could provide for all of my children before I had them.  With the divorce rate like it is, even though it wouldn't be my idea, it may happen.  People need to get it together, I have to teach these children that have one parent(not knowing who the father is), no parents (living with grand parents), foster care children, you are SCREWING UP THESE CHILDRENS LIVES!!!!!!!
 
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