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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

No Longer Respect Gloria Allred

After today's show, I am no longer a fan of Gloria Allred. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:11 pm PDT

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The Mother is money hungery.   Should have been honest from the begining and NONE of this would have happened.  The Mother owes her daughter.  
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

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I have to say that I don't agree with how your husband handled this but i also understand it!!! He was put in a very bad situation by a liar!  I wish that there was something that could be done about lying woman that do this to men!!! I am a woman and I am on a man's side most of the time - women are canniving people and very little are they the actual victim - they are usually the instigator -- I feel for you and your husband and I hope you get through this but more than anything I hope that the child gets through this and realizes later that she is a product of a lying mother and that she understands what he did and why!!  I hope they get things resolved

The current wife and HER behavior are only going to compound this girl's emotional problems by the way she wants her husband to toss her to the side. This poor child already has a deceitful, manipulative mother and a father who walked out on her. She doesn't need this woman adding her 2 cents where it doesn't belong. She needs to butt out.

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

Sad over the state of affairs in our country

I am embarrassed that situations like this occur so often.  I agree with the gentleman, that has been acting as the father, that he shouldn't be forced to continue to pay child support.  I agree with the thought that the mother should be held personally and financially responsible for the current situation especially since she was aware that he wasn't the father.  I am not a lawyer and will not even attempt to try to argue those points but some single mothers definitly need to be held accountable for their actions.  I am a single mother of a 19 month old.  Her father has never seen her.  He has called me a total of 2 times since she has been born to inquire about his daughter.  And he does not pay child support, I never went after him for it.  I believe that biological fathers should help support their children but I also think that some women take advantage of the situation of children also.  I recieve no child support but I have not had to apply for welfare and yes its a struggle sometimes but I am raising my daughter and she is deprived of nothing.  I think some mothers need to think about what is best for their children and act accordingly. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

The mother is wrong

I am a mother of a child that resulted from an affair I had during a bad marriage. As soon as I found out my husband was not the father through DNA testing, I advised him he could have a relationship with her but I would never hold him financially responsible. I went to court to have his name removed from the birth certificate but the courts in Texas denied the request. My child doesnt have a relationship with either parent but at least I didn't hold my husband responsible. Though he should continue an emotional relationship, it is wrong for her to legally go after him for money.   
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

Fathers need receipts, surely.

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I feel a DNA test should be done during every birth.  Not for financial reasons but health reasons for the future.  I feel that men that do pay child support should be given receipts for what they money goes for.  The money is for the CHILD not the MOTHER. 

Since is the  greatest  issue that men have concerning child support - why have the courts not addressed it. The burden of child support via your best enemy should not be demanded you along with a demad for you forfeit all gaurd and behave llike a good little man. That is what men are reduce to when paying child support to a vengeful mother.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

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Who does Gloria Allred think she is?  I worked, in California, for family law attorneys and know and understand the family law codes, however, Ms. Allred, is off her rocker!!!  This woman who lied to her husband should not only be ashamed but be held accountable for her actions.  I understand that the father should have not acted with his emotions but should have found another way to deal with the sad situation.  But I find that mother sitting there acting all self righteous to be insulting.  I can not even express how frustrated that I am with this woman and to have Gloria Allred, of all people, sit there and tell the father how he has done all these things wrong and defending the actions of this liar.  And then to add insult to injury, she compaired this situation to that of those who are willing not paying for their own biological children.  It is time for Ms. Allred to relinquish her bar card!!

 

Side note:  As a woman who is owed $120k in child support and arrears (through Orange County, CA courts)I am blessed that my husband took myself and four daughters, without the benefit of child support , as his own.  We are currenlty raising our seven (of nine) children without the assistance of my ex-husband. 

 

Signed:  A San Antonio Woman who knows the paternity of her children

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

Why aren't women held accountable for the decisions but men are.

I am somewhat frustrated with our child support system.  If a woman lies about a man being the father of a child then he shouldn't have to pay child support forcefully.  He should be able to have a relationship with the child emotionally and if he chooses take care of the child financially.  Or, maybe we should make DNA testing mandatory.  This will cut out a lot of not knowing and letting the biological parents of the hook.  Also, if it's truly about the child then the mothers shouldn't care if money is in the equation if the man isn't the biological father.  It should truly be about the emotional.  I am in a situation now where I take care of a child along with her father and he's being dinged for child support. He doesn't have the financial resources to get a lawyer so therefore he's stuck even though she lives with him.  How is this a fair situation.  He should be able to walk in the office with proof he's taking care of his child and not have a lawyer just as the mother didn't need a lawyer to put the child support on him.  I guess what I am trying to say is the whole system needs to be evaluated.  maybe a recert every year just like we do the welfare system should be required for child support to ensure things or being handled correctly. The system shouldn't just be for women bout for both genders.

 

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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

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I think it is awful that a woman can be so rude to her child and the child's father by not being honest.  Everyone has a right to know who their parent is.  How dare he cut off the child!  These people have really messeed with this little girl's life!

I don't think that he should have to pay support, but morally,... how could he stop having a relationship with her?

My husband does not know if he is his oldest child's biological father, (from a previous marriage), but I think they should do paternity.  He pays support, but does not always get his visitation.  The child doesn't want to see his dad because his mom told him that he is not his father.  She also tells him that he's not paying support.  He is and my husband has offered to show him proof of this, but he says no, he knows he doesn't pay it because his mom told him.  This child has no father figure, and his mom screws with his head constantly.  the law is not much help.  Unfortunately, I think both of the parents have failed my step-cjild just like the parents on today's show!

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:12 pm PDT

fraud

i went thru the same thing in missouri.

i obtained dna showing that i was 0.0 percent the father and the court still ordered child support in the amount of526 per month.

i went back to court 4 years later to get it stopped as the child was over 18 and the lawyer for my ex wife tryed to get it coninued saying the child was being home schooled and should still be eligabile.

when that was overrulled he then tryed to get it coninued saying the child was disabled.

it is a shame that the courts in the land can make a person pay child support for a child that is not thiers

just by saying it is

at court i was told either pay or i would be put in jail

 

 
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