Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

Yes, Maria made a mistake, I can imagine there was a time where she wasn't sure whose child she was going to have.

Then there was the father (not bio) who did chose the wrong way of handling telling this information to Selina in such a manner, and then leaving her behind. He had no emotions when he did this to her. She was just thrown to the curb, how terrible.

What I noticed in the show was Maria knowing she had done wrong, but what can you do about the past now? The not bio dad Enricke. He says he realizes he made a mistake how he handled, he can't change what he did in the past.

Then there is Mia his new wife. She is still mad, and doesn't have any sad feelings for what Selina has gone through (I don't think). She doesn't seem to get it. I think she got her husband all wound up, and with her backing & support this is how he handled the situation. She doesn't seem very compasionate about a child's feelings whatsoever. Her feelings are now. They are today. And I think they will continue in the future. She is a thorn in the future of her husband. This woman likes trouble, drama and turmoil. Just my opinion.

Oh, and Salina (not sure how to spell) beautiful, adorable, how he could pull away from her, makes me wonder if the man has a heart?

I have watched this show for some time now, and this is my first time putting in my 2 cents, I think the courts have a job to do. but i think that they need to realize in todays society that more women are cheating on their husbands, and getting away with this activity, the women are never held accountable for their actions. I would like to know if the (ex-husband/father) had to give up his parental rights in order to stop paying child support on the daughter? If so I feel that everyone came down a little hard on the (ex/father). Further more. If everyone is soooo concerned about the children, then how is it a judge could give back a daughter to the biological parents after so many years. Remember Baby Jessica some years back, i know that, that situation was different she was adopted by a loving family but ripped out of their lives. If it was only about the children this world would be different, but in reality its ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. I DON'T FEEL THAT THE FATHER SHOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR HER, THE DONOR SHOULD HAVE TOO PAY. SO WHY WON'T THE MOTHER LET HIM JUST BE THE DAD WITHOUT THE MONEY?

YES  ANYONE  CAN  BE A  "SPERM  DONOR" BUT  by  the same token  any woman can be an egg donor....   but  it  takes  a  woman  of  HONESTY  AND  INTEGRITY  to  be  a  REAL  MOTHER  .....lets  not  forget   that  the  only  reason he  "pretended" to be a father  was  based  on  the LIES  that  the woman  told  him.....or NEGLECTED to tell him......

These are older studies because franky, there is no money to do new studies. They very clearly indicate that there is value in fathers. Many people right off the father as being "needed".  Obviously father's right should be looked at. I believe children have a right to know who their biological father is, so they can attempt have a relationship with them. 

 

I hope this isn't too far off topic.

 

According to Getting Men Involved: The Newsletter of the Bay Area Male Involvement Network, Spring 1997:

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• 63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census
• 90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
• 85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes (Source: Center for Disease Control)
• 80% of rapists motivated with displaced anger come from fatherless homes (Source: Criminal Justice & Behavior, Vol 14, p. 403-26, 1978.)
• 71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes (Source: National Principals Association Report on the State of High Schools.)
• 75% of all adolescent patients in chemical abuse centers come from fatherless homes (Source: Rainbows for all Gods Children.)
• 70% of juveniles in state-operated institutions come from fatherless homes (Source: U.S. Dept. of Justice, Special Report, Sept 1988)
• 85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home (Source: Fulton Co. Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. of Corrections 1992)
  
  

This is wrong in so many levels.  First, isn't there a motto somewhere to "do do harm" when it comes to the chidlren.  The mother made a mistake, she acknowledged that fact on the show today; therefore, forget that issue.  The bottom line here is everyone is looking out for their best interest and not the childs.  If this man truly cared about this young precious lady, he would NOT have told her the way that he did and he would have continued to pay the child support and waited until she was older to discuss this with her.  Why, continued to pay, because it's the "right" thing if you take "self" out of the equation.  Yes, it stinks, but in order to protect the child it would be best.  The "new wife"...well, she appears vindictive and a huge insticatior and again, I'm sure "self" is at the forefront of that reasoning.  She appears to dominate this man tremendously.  As for me, if I was the mother and that 'man' took my child out one day and said he wasn't her father & cut her off totally, I would want him as far from her as possible.  I'd have her in counseling and I would NOT want his money or his influence near my child.  If he terminated the relationship for two years and flaunted his "fatherhood" of the other daughter in front of her, I would definitely not welcome him back.  She should not have to succomb to opening the wounds that she managed to close up over a two year period.  As far the male attorney advocating against fraudulant praternity - why didn't anyone ask him about the relationship of the child he was paying child support for.  What type of man is he?  I think a solution to this problem would be to make it standard procedure that the DNA test of all parents/new babies be performed before the baby ever leaves the hospital.  If this occurred, we would save a lot of childen from having to endure this pain and it would save a lot of court costs and these "attorneys" could focus on something else.  Also, by making it standard, couples who suspected infidelity but didn't want to initiate this testing would never have to introduce the issue.  To me, the "fasle" dad and his overbearing wife.....selfish.

I completely agree that the laws are written only as a means to keep the money flowing. She committed fraud not only to the father but also the Government. CHILD SUPPORT IS A BRANCH OF THE GOVERNMENT!!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/11/paternity.cases/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

 

 

 

     It would be very detrimental to a relationship if everytime a woman got pregnant the man in her life requests a DNA test to prove that he is the father.  What would happen to the trust in the relationship if that were to happen.  How would that lack of trust in their relationship affect the child.  With that said I believe that if a man finds out he is not the biological father of a child after the Mother has named him as the father should not have any further legal mandatory financial responsibility unless he wants to continue the support.  Actually, I believe that he should have the right to demand back payment from the Mother of the child if she falsely knowlingly named him as the childs father.  Actually, knowing that she may have to pay him back financially may help her tow the line of truthfullness from the beginning.  There should be some legal recourse for these men to remedy the fraud that has been done to them. 

    What the man did today to the child that he thought was his was such a crime in its own right.  Making him pay child support would never remedy what he has done to this child.  She seems to be a special young lady and in my opinion is better off at this point without him.  What kind of a father could do this to a child.

         Hopefully, the adults in the childs life will solve these issues without taking the emotion support and love from the child as this man has done.  This man felt so much betrayal that he was unable to do the right thing with regard to the child.  Unfortunately, that does not say anything for him as a father or potential father.

I myself did not here anything about what the daughter though about her mother laying to her all these years who her father was. I believe she was more worried about hiding the truth and putting blame on the father then admitting she was wrong.  I myself blame both because the mother should have  taken responiblity for the fraud, because she admitted knowing on the show and still showed know remorse. woman like her is why men dont trust us.    And the father should of handled it in a different way than he had. Because not 1 but both, I believe have hurt her. She depended on him. He was her father the only one she knew and he blew that. The thing about paying child support, I dont believe he should just gut her off because of her mothers action. Its not her falt . And she shouldnt have to do with out. But I also favor the father why should I pay for someone elses child. But if i found out after 10 plus years  the child wasnt mine how do you just turn back on them. That part I dont understand.

I watched your show today with great sorrow for the child but great anger for the mother.  but i think what needs to be done is what is best for the child she is becoming a young women now and she needs to know that it is not right for women to lie like her mother did and damage everyone's lifes but also it should be Enriques choose and Selenas choose on where they go from here.  I believe Gloria needs to keep her advice to herself because i heard nothing that i would take to heart.  Californina is  a country all of it's own and they believe that if the other part of this country doesn't believe like they do then we all are wrong.  Well i'm here to tell yeah that some of  us still believe that a lie is a lie and can be very damaging and what is the golden rule.  The truth will set you free.  Thanks D.

          I think that once it was discovered that Selina wasn't Enriques, the mother should have been big enough to give up the child support, or go after the appropriate man (whom apparently she does not want envolved with this child for whatever reason, possibly an undesirable person) and allow the father she has always known to continue a relationship with her.  Trust in the love he has for the child, and that love would not have kept him from getting her anything she needed ( school clothes, etc...).  So little child support these days actually gets to the children once it falls into some mothers hands.  Who is to say that he could not or would not have done better by her on his own.  After all everyone keeps saying it's not about the money and looking at Enrique.  How about saying that and looking at the mother.  That's what being a loving, caring, mother means.