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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 3:10 pm PDT

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I didn't watch the whole show but I saw the second half of it. I think that yes it is wrong to tell someone that a child is theres when its really not. The key is if they KNOW that it is not that persons its wrong. I have saw many cases where they truelly believed that one man was the father. I think that the law provides a certain amount of time that a man can fight paternity because of the sake of the child. In the state that I am from it is 2 years that you can contest paternity. There are so many dead beat dads out there and My children are both victims of it. My daughters father pays child support but never sees her and my sons father just keeps running. He doesn't even acknowledge our son and I had to pull him into court to take a dna test so I could go after him for child support. The problem with society is MONEY. If you can afford to take care of a child then simply use protection. It takes 2 and the one who ends up suffering in the end is the child.
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:11 pm PDT

Female attorney on todays show

I have to say that the female attorney on todays show was a big dissappointment. Someone needs to tell her that she is not in court, or running for office.She was very angry. She may be a good attorney, but she has no idea how to have a normal converstation. Please don't have her on the how again.
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:11 pm PDT

mothers should not lie

I feel the mother of celina should not have lied.  enriquez should not be financially responsible for a child that is not biologically his.  no matter how long he has raised the child as his.  he should be able to trust his wife is not cheating on him.  the mother should be forced to find the other man she slept with or other men.  she needs to have her other men tested for paternity and make them pay for support.  that is her daughters right.  she has no right to collect any money or support from enriqez. But it is ashame that her father enriqez cut her off.  He should not have done that.  
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:11 pm PDT

What about the child?

What I was hoping to see out of this show...is a better way to handle this for the child...how and when do you tell the child the truth...this was totally about child support...there is so many more issues/problems with this situation...medical...bioligical...the biological father...his family and the fact he doesn't know he has a child...the father that thought he had a child...and the family that thought she was theirs...it doesn't change your love for the child...but what about everything and everyone involved...when all could have been the truth from the get go...THE TRUTH...ISN'T THAT THE BEST POLICY IN EVERY SITUTATION...WHY DO WOMEN GET AWAY WITH THIS...THIS HURTS SO MANY PEOPLE...THERE IS SO MUCH MORE INVOLVED THAN JUST MONEY...Dr Phil needs to do another show geared toward the mental aspects of this...YES THIS IS FRAUD...BUT NOT TO THE MAN...TO THE CHILD...EVERY CHILD DESERVES TO KNOW THE TRUTH...SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT...WHEN THE mother is responsible...she committed fraud to her child...so how should she be held accountable for her child...adults should be able to handle this...WHAT ABOUT THE CHILD!!!

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

What is wrong with people?

Besides the obvious  issues of  cheating on your spouse, lying about it,  getting pregnant,  not having protected sex while you are cheating no doubt, and the emotional scars inflicted on this child, how can someone raise a child, love them, take care of them, watch them take their first steps, be there when they speak for the first time and not care about what happens to them for the rest of their life. Should the man be upset with his wife and what she did? YES!!! Legally should he be required to pay child support? NO! But how could you not want to make sure that a child you love and care for is taken care of? how could you drive away with one child and leave the other standing at the door. What is this world coming to? what about families that adopt? When they get a divorce are the parents not responsible for the financial well being of that child...It isn't theirs, and besiides they decided to adopt when they were together, they didn'tt sign on to be single parents or pay child support for a child that isn't theirs. I couldn't do that to my dog! How can someone do that to a child?
 

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October 29, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

heartsick for selena

 

As a parent of two children through adoption, I believe that the mother was way off on this one. She should have been honest from the get go. There are people out there who are willing to take on the responsibility of raising and paying for a child without being biologically related to them. Most of us do that knowing the facts up front,  through step family situations. I agree with the gentleman on the show that stated that Enrique and Selena should be allowed to have a relationship without a court order. I don't know that Enrique handled the situation properly, but the fault for this one falls on the mother.

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

equal rights

It is reprehensible that women do this sort of thing.  I hope Dr Phill will do another show about men who want to be parents, want a relationship with their children, but are blocked at every turn.  I know of at least three men who tried to do the right thing for their children. The system is so slanted and is not for the "best interest of the child"  If they were, they would have more rights for the father including enforced visitation rights, and realizing that the mother is not always the best placement for children. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

Been There, Done That

My boyfriend has been through this exact situation.  He and his ex-girlfriend had 2 children together.  When my boyfriend became suspicious that one of the children may not be his, he took both children for a paternity test, and found out that neither child was his (at the time they were around ages 6 and 4).  The difference is that he decided to maintain his relationship with both children.  Although they were young and perhaps couldn't fully understand, the children were told, as everyone involved felt it was important that they were aware of the truth.  Their own fathers have never become involved, although they are aware that they have children.  That was around 7 years ago, and to this day both children still call him "dad", we go to ballgames, he goes to parent-teacher meetings, he buys school clothes for them, and does everything a dad should do.  Luckily, their mother is satisfied (as she should be) with what he is providing for them, both emotionally and financially, and they have left the legal system out of it.  I don't think the men should have ANY legal obligation to support the children, but it is hard to understand how morally any man can feel right about walking completely away from a child that they loved as their own for so many years.

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:12 pm PDT

yeah ok

Thats all well and good either way really. I just think that when the attorneys for "fathers"  said that these men had no responsibility after 9 years was crap... they OBVIOUSLY admit to sleeping with the women . There are ways that a man can keep from getting a woman pregnant. Men should be held accountable for sleeping with a woman. If you were not having unprotective sex with a woman then you know you are not the FATHER! And shouldnt you know the persojn you are having sex with? Men are not victems they put themselves in that situation... MAN UP!

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:13 pm PDT

I AM THAT CHILD

I am the middle child of 3 I am a product of an extramarital  affair, both siblings have the same father.  I do not feel that  a man should be responsible for the lies a woman tells. It was extremely painful when I found out that my father was not my father but even still I do not feel he should be  made  to take fiancial responsiblity for me. My father knew and it wasn't until my parents divorced that my mother told me. I so dont agree with Gloria I think she is playing both  ends of the stick with her views on this. We as woman must be accountable for the choices we make while it is tragic the truth still remains he is not the father.
 
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