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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 8:10 am PDT

What the HECK!

The only resposiblity this man has is to maintain his relationship with the girl who he has been a part of her life for many years.  Financially the mother should pay the father for fraud.  I cannot believe the court system allows for gold diggers to take money from unexpecting men who fall victom to this.  When a man does this to a woman he becomes a scam artist and is tracked down by the government.  Unbelievable comments from the "famous" attorney.  The black gentleman that spoke was spot on and I hope he can retrieve money he paid.  Great show.............

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October 29, 2007, 8:11 am PDT

That is Wrong

I have a son that  has questioned weather he is the father of his child.  He has made the decision to pay way  too much child support because he loves her and wants to continute to be her Dad.  He has sacrificed alot for this decision because he can barley eat.  I'm very proud of him.  No way should a court make a man pay for another  man's child even if it has been twenty years.  There are two sepreate issues.  The  relationship with the child and the money.
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:12 am PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

Quote From: noahsmommy1017

In today's world, I think it is ignorant of a lawyer to argue a point of statistics on the number of men who are behind on child support.  As the aunt of a little boy whose biological mom takes NO responsibility for him, I have to say, I find the lawyer's views biased, and uneven.  She seems to be blind to the fact that just as many woman are responsible for paternity/child support issues as men!  There is no excuse for letting a man believe he is the child of a father, if there is even a fraction of a percent of doubt in your mind....this leads me to wonder, why doesn't she find the real dad?  Does she know he's a dead-beat who wont pay, so she is going after a man she knows has money?????
I was just thinking that! How else would she make money going after dads that don't have a dime and won't own up to it anyway. Enrique is a MD!!
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:13 am PDT

Mom Should Be Ordered to Repay

  The mother in this case is totally in the wrong.  The father should not be ordered to pay child support for a child that is not biologically his.  From the point of acknowledgement the father should be repayed by the mother.  I do believe that the father should have remained a part of the childs life inspite of the outcome of the test because of the established relationship.  I really don't think that the mom would have allowed him to be a part of the childs life without the child support.  She showed no remorse and what is really sad is that the child does not seem to understand what the mother has done.  The child support should be obtained by the biological father.  
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:13 am PDT

Family Secret

I wonder if Selina has any resentment towards her mother?  My mother casually sat me down one day when I was 16 years old and told me that my father that I had known was not my real father.  It was a life changing experience.  I consider my father that raised me, a wonderful dad.  As for my mother, there is a huge amount of resentment for being the mastermind of this secret for years.  Now at 48, it is quite clear to me why she emotionally neglected me as a child and has never to this day said that she loved me.  It explains the difficulties I had as a child and as an adult.  What amazes me is that her resentment towards me has followed me through my adulthood.  I hope that one day I can get through this feeling of abandonment.  It will be very hard for me to forgive her, if I ever do.
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:14 am PDT

Gloria Allred's craxy

Where is this women coming from.  I am a women and i'm appalled by here statements.  she needs to pull her head out of her rearend!  I think the women should be punished in some way for doing such a thing to their child which they gave birth to.....
 
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October 29, 2007, 8:14 am PDT

For crying out loud! Everybody just keep your pants on...

People jump into bed with each other WAY too fast & then they believe they can be indignant & shocked when things like this happen.

 

If there is the slightest doubt who is the father, then there are paternity tests that can be run. 

 

Should it matter if the women might be insulted by a request for a paternity test?  No.  She has no right to be insulted because she sleeps around just as the man has no right to be angry to find out he is or isn't the father since obviously he sleeps around as well.

 

It's moronic enough to bed hop the way so many people do these days, but even moreso to blindly trust a person, man or woman, who is known to not be monogamous. 

 

If "Man A" sleeps with "Woman A" , married or not, & they become estranged for whatever reason & then "Woman A" sleeps with "Man B", then doesn't COMMON SENSE dictate that more than one man could be the father?  It does, but so many people seem to not have common sense. 

 

I heard "personal responsibility" thrown around too, but the definition of that term seems to be lost as well.

 

And the kids who are the result of these unions are the ones who are truly "paying" for this crap.  Nice job "adults". 

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:14 am PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

What I find disturbing is that no one is saying this mother committed fraud.  She accepted financial support for her child from a man that was not the father.  If they had not been married, she would have to pay him back.  Since when did a marriage certificate give you the right to lie and gain financially ?

Isn't it fraud to lie on an official document ?  Isn't a birth certificate an official document ?

 

I realize this is "about the child".  But if the child had been the mother's main concern when the child was conceived, everything would have been different.  I think the mother's irresponsibility should in NO way be rewarded here. 

 

Enrique should have the right to custody of the child he raised as his own- given the information he had - Dr. Phil says "do your best with what you know" right ?  .well he did, and now he knows more (the truth) ... and Maria should pay him child support for the daughter that she brought into this world on a lie and while cheating and breaking her marriage vows and then commiting a crime by lying on the birth certificate.

 

 

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:16 am PDT

What?

Quote From: ncdad54

The women of the world know that they can trick men into getting them pregnant so they can have a decade of easy money.  There is an epidemic in this country of women coming from other countries to marry American men, have a child and then divorce and on to the next man.  Wash, rince, repeat into financial secuirty. 

 

With VAWA and the domestic violence laws in America, men are now nothing more than wild game for women.  They know how profitable it is to have children in America.  With the advent of Title IVD programs and VAWA, the government encourages divorce and custody battles.

 

Just read Dr Stephen Baskerville's latest book "Taken Into Custody" and you will see how the American Bar Association built the Divorce Industry for their profits and the destruction of American Families.

 

What are you talking about? You sound like a racist person... why are you saying that women from OTHER countries come here to have children with americans for the money?  That is sooo wrong...  I want to know where are you getting the information from...  I am not saying it doesn't happen at all but you can't say it is an epidemic... American women actually do that, why blame the rest of the world.  Please!  There are plenty of AMERICAN single moms with 2, 3, 4 children from different fathers collecting child support and living under government assistance. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 8:16 am PDT

THAT GLORIA IS ADDICTED TO ATTENTION

Every time is see that attorney "preachin" about yet ANOTHER issue, and being an authority on yet ANOTHER cause, I get the feeling that perhaps her true calling was to be on TV.

 

Wait until one of her sons is falsely accused of fathering a child and then has to pay child support for years.  Will she feel the same way then? 

 

As women, we have a RESPONSIBILITY to teach our children about truth and that starts with being truthful about paternity no matter how it impacts our ( we, the mother's) life.  If you tell the truth from day one, at least the child knows who his/her father is from day one!    At least, that's one thing they don't have to think about and worry about their whole lifes.  No matter how that father treats them, whether he accepts them wholeheartedly or whether he totaaly neglects them, they have a right to know who he truley is.  And, the man has a right to NOT have his life turned upside down 10-15 years later when the child comes knocking on the door.

 

I don't care how long a man has supported the child, I don't think he should have to pay the support.  He should have the option of making voluntary  care payments if he so chooses.  But find the real dad, and sue him.  and, I then the mom should have to pay back that money.

 

Ladies, is it so hard to not have so many sexual partners that you don't know who the father of your child is? 

 
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