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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

I agree and stand behind Fathers!

I understand that law is trying to look out for the interest of the child.  However, I do agree that if a father is manipulated into the situation that he should not be financially responsible.

 

What is the mothers responsibility?  Why is she not held responsible for her actions?  I do not agree with this law and believe that the financial responsibility should fall back on the mother.  This may prevent mothers from accusing the wrong father. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

It's about the children

I completely understand that Maria manipulated Enrique. That was not ok, nor should he have to pay child support. However, there is much more at stake here than money. Selina's emotional well being is the most improtant thing. She is now paying for her monther's error, it is almost as if Enrique is punishing her for her monther's manipulation. I find it hard to believe that a father can break the emotional bond that easily with his daughter. The relationship a girl has with her father will affect future relationships with men. Most likely, she has now learned that men cannot be trusted.The long term emotional damage will run deep for that poor young lady.

 

As for Enrique's new wife, she really needs to stay out of this. I understand she feels angry for her husband, however she is not helping matters with how angry she is. I have to ask myself why is she so angry?

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

Gloria A.Unfreakin Believable....

Where has she Been?She has no idea about which she speaks here,the law only....MAYBE.This is atrocious!!Where is her common sense????This is a prime example of the problems in law-it is a diseased cell ,spred by uncompetents.It does not matter whether MIA is allegedly a good person or not-she had an affair and broke her husbands trust.It's black and white.Don't color it purple when it isn't.Mia created this situation,willingly at that,so she doesn't deserve any breaks.I do agree for the child that she should do counseling with the victim father,if she is willing.The father IS the victim,as well the child,but if this is REALLY about the child,then MONEY SHOULD NOT BE ATTACHED.This is clearly the only reason that MIA and Gloria are pursuing this.
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

The children were coached!

I never heard them ask the  mother  why or how she could have done this to both of them!  They both should be angry at her.  Also, the bio deadbeat!
 

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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

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  I  am sick and tired of women always winning in court against their husbands even though they left the marriage just because they "felt" like it or they were to blame for the divorce themselves.  Women are always favored especially when they have a child and this is why they have them a lot of times. This "mother" is no mother in my book.  She owes Enrique every penny he paid her wrongfully in child support and send a message to other women tricksters to think twice before they deceive their husbands.  I don't see anything wrong with how he told Selena, the only thing I felt was wrong was stopping seeing her.  There is probably more to that than we know.  I am sure this "mother" was partly to blame for that too.  You could tell by her smirks the entire show, blaming Enrique's new wife for the trouble stating he didn't have the .... to take this action on his own, and her constantly shaking her seemingly pious head all thru the show.  She said with her mouth "begrudingly" that she should have told him, but her posture, attitude and facial expressions showed me that she really felt no responsibility for this at all.  I was ashamed that Dr. Phil, whom I agree with most all the time, didn't give her more what-for than he did. 

Selena has been brainwashed by her mother and is happy now with the step-father.  I think when she gets away from her "mother" she will be more understanding of why her father of 9 years did what he did and rightfully blame her "mother."  She may grow up and do the same thing if restitution is not made to Enrique.  I feel sorry for him and not one whit for her.  I hope Dr. Phil does a later show so we can find out what happened and I sure hope SHE pays through the nose.  She won't be smirking then!

 

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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

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I am so totally irritated with Gloria Allred.  Yes, we should get the "dead beat" dads, but don't take this out on men like Enrique.  He was lied to by Maria.  Yes, the way he told Selina is deplorable - but - he should not have to pay for Maria's lies.  Maria did a lot of laughing and smiling for such a serious matter.  I really wanted someone to wipe the smiles off of her face.  I do feel bad for Selina - she is in the middle and is just a child.  Mom should be hanging her head in shame and not trying to get money from Enrique since she lied to him for nine years.  SHAME ON HER!!!!  I am a mother of 4, grandmother of 12, great-grandmother of 2 and I think Maria is a disgrace to the all women.    I hope the gentleman who paid for 11 years, fought his ex-girlfriend and won will help Enrique.  HOORAY for him.  I think he could give Gloria a run for her money on this subject.  She is obnoxious. 
I totally agree with you.  Gloria Alred is about getting attention where she can and women's feminist issues.  In her book a woman is never wrong.  I'll bet she was choking inside telling the mother she had done wrong!  This mother is not a loving mother, had she truly been loving she would not have carried on for ten years knowing there was any doubt or question to paternity of this child!  Clearly, this mother has a seared conscience and it certainly doesn't weigh on her at all, even regarding it's affect on this poor young girl!
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:32 pm PDT

free enrique!

 The mom should be thrown in jail and have her children taken away from her.  Howdare her do this to this man and ruin her life, she is completly heartless and is a horrible person.  She is a sad excuse for a women and a poorer excuse for a mother. 
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:33 pm PDT

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This lady is a nut job, she lied to this poor man and now she has caused resentment between her ex husband and her daughter. When the daughter is old enough to realize the financial burden as well as the emotional strain this selfish woman caused I pray her daughter doesn't turn on her.
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:33 pm PDT

welcome to our world!

I felt compelled to come to this site and create an entire account to voice my opinions on this matter!  As I watched this show and heard the cheers, I couldn't help but think... those cheers are most likely coming from upper middle class people who have NO IDEA what the reality is about in terms of child support and absent parents.  Approx 9.9 million mothers in this country raise children ALONE!  As opposed to the approx 1.6 of men who go at it alone.  Out of those approx 10 million woman guess how many get support... not even half!  And a vast amount of those mothers are working 2/3 jobs and having to utilize public assistance to make up for what the biological father has failed to do for many many years.  This is nothing new.  However, I do agree with the negligence the mother did exhibit in having the affair... men have been having affairs for YEARS AND getting other women pregnant while still married.  Can we sue them for fraud?  Well, they failed to disclose their infidelity didn't they?  I think this is almost comical and has proven a point that I have had for many years.  A man hears a woman is pregnant and he thinks money... "What will I have to pay... or not pay for that matter."  I was a single parent for many years and my son's father owes me over $20,000 in back support.  I won't ever see a dime of that and he can continue to spend that money on other things besides his child.  Not only does he owe this money to his son, but he has been absent from his life and my son does not know him.  This story is nothing new, yet it is almost so common place that it isn't regarded with the severity it should.  It is an endless fight that woman face everyday.  I am sorry that I am not empathic to the man who does not place the child before his wallet nor am I empathetic to the man who questioned paternity to begin with ("Congrats on being pregnant to you and your baby-daddy.." I believe he said.)  He obviously had doubts then... take your butt to the clinic and get that test!  For the sake of the child... don't wait 10 years!  The majority of women in these situations will most likely tell you, "I would rather have a role model, a father, someone who loves my child... over the money."  Too bad that is the first thing a man sees... dollar signs. 
 
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October 29, 2007, 1:33 pm PDT

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dr. phil, i feel that even though this guy is not the biological father, does that mean that he dosent love this girl anymore? He has raised this kid for 9 years finds out hes not the father and basically blows her off, like she means nothing. I think that is wrong. I dont care that hes not the biological dad, hes still her dad in every other way isnt he?  Do you just say well  shes not mine so see ya?  i think that is totally wrong of him. Now dont get me wrong, what the mother did in not saying anything is wrong as well and she should have to be responsible as well but the one that is suffering is that poor sweet little girl.....
 
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