Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

Quote From: lojo43

This show was absolutely unbelievable.  From everyone from the Mother to yes, you Dr. Phil.  First let me say that I am a woman that came from a divorced family in which my biological father just chose not to pay child support.  Unfortunately it was many years ago when laws were not in place to go after dead beat dads.  So with that, I am totally in favor of laws to find dead beat dads or MOMS!!

 

But this show is not simply a black and white case.  This mother deliberately lied to her ex.  Strung him along for many years.  Lied to her daughter and the rest of her family, and simply sits on stage so  smug about it all.  And then a high profile attorney comes on and jabs the dagger into Enrique's heart a little furthur.  Not once did I hear anyone, including you Dr. Phil show any compassion for this man who loved this little girl and one day was told it is not his daughter.  Yes, he made a terrible choice in "HOW" he went about things afterwards.  He admits that.  He shows remorse for that.  Did anyone see any remorse from mom?  All I kept hearing was that this was about the child.  The child comes first.  Well if that is the case then both mom and Enrique should have been put on the chopping block for how they "both" have hurt this child.  And then episode two should have been about  "Financial responsiblities". 

 

Dr. Phil I respect you and most of the time admire you for how candid you are.  But I must say today I was very dissapoined.  Again not once did I hear you express any compassion for Enrique.  What  if your son was walking in Enriques' shoes?  I don't think that you would have sat back showed no compassion for this man. Did I miss the part where you told Enrique that you were sorry for his loss?  Not once did I hear you offer therapy for any of these people other than the little girl.   Obviously, they all will be in need of much counseling. 

 

The comments were made about Serena's outlook on men in her life.  She is fortunate enough to have a stepfather who is willing to go to all lengths to be there for her.  She also has a man in her life who is not her biological father, but who is asking for forgiveness for how he handled things and wants to continue a relationship.  As far as I can see there are two men stepping up to the plate for Serena.  Maybe we should be more concerend about the women in Serena's life.  After all, mom lied, shows no remorse, still has her hand out for more money, and continues to tell Serena in so many word that he is the bad guy.  Wow, what kind of message is that sending? 

 

As far as the financial responsibiity.  Enrique is not the father.  He should pay no child support.  Mom should pay him back if the biological dad cannot be located.  IF biological DAD is located he should have to pay past child support back to Enrique.  Maybe that would push mom to find the biological dad instead of sitting back with her hand out.  She can absorb all costs to find the biological dad.  Enrique shoud be granted visitation rights if Selena is in agreement.  Mom should have no say in that. I bet she wouldn't be so smug about it then!

 

I could go on and on.  This show really hit a nerve with me.  No time today for this but could not sit back and say nothing.  Bottome line- there was a real lack of compassion for Enrique today.  Imagine how your heart would be torn up Dr. Phil if you found out one of your sons really was not your son.  Ms. high profile attorney-YOU need some counsling in expressing some empathy.  Looked to me like you were doing a sales pitch for any potential law suits.  Mom, you would have been better taking a drama class to at least try to act like you care a little bit.  And beautiful Serena, you have many people who love you.  Embrace that and make your own decisions.  People make bad choices when there heart is hurt. With your hurt heart, try not to make bad choices about two men who seem to truely love you. And try to remember, one of those men's heart has been hurt tremendously.  You are a lovely young lady.

 

Dr. Phil, you need to continue this episode. 

Quote From: lkandah

I would like first and foremost to support Dr. Phil. statement that the biological mother of the daughter should be held to the full extent legally, emotionally, socially, financially, and any other relevant dimension to all of this problem. She betrayed her husband twice by cheating on him and by lying about her biological daughter, also she betrayed her daughter by exposing her to a life time lie. She was coward to face her first mistake by cheating on him so she covered her lies with more lies. She must and should face the consequences of her actions of being irresponsible mother and wife which I find difficulty using those two great words in describing her because she is anybody but a mother and a wife.

 

Also I would like to mention that the lawyer position is ridiculous and lawyers are known to twist truth to the best interest of themselves first and to their clients second. So her point of view is not creditable and just to provoke people and draw their attention by arguing the truth as it is not true-maybe to sell her book.

 

For Enrique, I think he was passing through a very difficult emotional trauma and he was not thinking right whcih pushed him to make Selina deal with adult issues and saying he is not her father. She had no guilt whatsoever and she is a victim as Enrique. Morally he could have done a better job but he was not obligated to do so. You can't ask a badly wounded injured person to act as a normal person. We are contradicting ourselves if we ask Enrique to be compassionate towards Selina and not towards himself.

 

I believe marriage qualifications is beyond what most people think of. It should be regulated, as if you are going to drive a car you must have certain skills or you will be denied the right of driving a car and cause damage to yourself and others. Marriage damages most of the time are beyond  repair and recovery.

Quote From: mssullivan

FIRST OFF - I am personally going through this situation where my fiance found out that a child that is four years old is NOT his!!!!  I do not believe ever that a man should just stand up a child and leave them wondering why "daddy" doesn't want to be around them anymore.  BUT I also believe that once the man finds out that he is not the father, I do not think that he should be paying any money to a woman any longer that lied to him from the beginning.  I don't agree that the father daughter/son relationship should end - and I also want to point out that in no way should the child ever get told that the father is no longer paying support for him/her.  I think that from the get go that a child should not know what a father or mother pays for support.  A child may look at it as a "worth" that they are as far as what they get from their parent.  But I think that the child should be allowed to continue to see the person that was in their eyes their father.  BUT I will NEVER believe that the man should have to continue to pay money for a child that is not his.  IT's said enough that dead beat dads are damned for not paying but I find it sad that a man is damned for not wanting to continue to  pay for a child that is not his.  I hate dead beat dads, but don't sit and say a man is a bad person because he no longer wants to pay for a child that is not his.  A man can't be responsible for a woman having an affair, getting pregnant and then not having the balls to stand up and say something to him before this child is born just  because she just wants money from him.  I would NOT PAY the woman on todays show one penny more and I would want to sue her for putting my name on a certificate after knowingly knowing that the man was not the father.  There needs to be a law to put women away or charge them with fraud for knowing false information.  You know when you sign a credit application and it says anyone signing to false information will be charged.  Well this should be the same thing, she knew what she was doing or had thoughts of knowing and she should be held accountable.  She should not get away with making a false relationship with her daughter and this man.  This man may have still had a relationship with this child if he knew it wasn't his, just knowing that the child needed a father. But that doesn't make it right to make him pay for something he didn't create!!!!!!!  I truly hope that  this man does not get in trouble - I DO hope that the woman gets in fraudulent trouble.  I hope the child can find it in her heart to know that the man was just trying to be honest about something that her mother has been a liar about.  PRAY for this family.

Quote From: anhonestwmomen

I have to ask everyone on this board... would you not want to know the truth about your health history???   Imagine going to a hospital and giving crucial information about your health history and it's all a lie???  People have died from stuff like this.  She put the child in danger by not telling her the  correct health background.  Maybe Mia was thinking of this when she said something.....hello people, we ALL want to know the truth about where we come from and who our realy family is....PLEASE!