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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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Perfectly said

Well said!  This hit a nerve with me two! I just can't believe what this mom did!
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

Hello? Where's the Bio-Father??

Maybe not now, but the daughter will eventually ask who really is her father.  I sure hope this woman doesn't have a list of candidates!  I think it's horrible that she assumed that she would be able to lie about this not only to her (then) husband, but to her daughter!  Again, maybe not now, but the daughter's anger about her Mom's decision is sure to come out eventually.  Good luck explaining that one MOM!!  (and I use that term lightly!)
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

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Wow, given the number of dads out there that run out on the moms and kids, I am amazed at the hate going on.  No one listened as the mom said she was wrong?  No one listened as she said she did not know at the time, but because she knew she had an affair she should disclose this because there might be a possibility?  Given me a break!  We were not in there shoes, so why do we get to judge?  The real person that was hurt by this is the child.  Not the man, not the woman, they are adults they have the ability to fix or find someone to fix the situation.  As for the other gentlemen, all he needed to do was ask for proof.  Most states make the father pay only if he is the father.  Some states may make you pay up front, but if you think you may not be the dad, what the heck, pay it.  You cannot tell me it is not worth the investment.  Then again, they did not take the time to invest in a condom, problem solved.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

Did you stand in the place of a parent?

 I think it is horrible that a woman says nothing to her husband about the possibility that a child may not be his.  Having said that, I also believe that if the man has been a "father" in every sense of the word to a child for 2 or more years, that he should have some obligation to continue to assist financially to the cost of raising the child.  If any man or woman takes on the role of a parent to a child, you have an obligation to continue to do so.  I don't believe that a person would have to pay the full amount of support, but perhaps half would be appropriate.  I do not have children of my own, I have two step-children and if their father and I were to split, here in BC I could be obligated to pay a portion of the guideline amount, even if their mother already pays the full amount.  You accept that kind of responsibility when you take on a parenting role to a child, they continue to depend upon you, regardless of whether you are still with their parent.

A man who has been lied to for 10 years and who has suffered emotionally as a result of finding out he is not the father to a child he has raised and loved for 10 years should be able to sue the mother for damages for not speaking up sooner.  The way I see it, she emotionally abused that man and her daughter for 10 years.  It would serve her right if he did that.  The mother should be obligated to pay for counselling for both the father and the child in order to rebuild the relationship SHE tore apart.  He obviously acted irrationally, but who can blame him after having discovered what he did.  He was wrong to take his anger out on the child, but sometimes people forget how to act and how to respond when faced with such devastating news.

I wish both he and his daughter all the best for a bright future together.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:20 pm PDT

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Dear Dr. Phil.

 

AFTER WATCHING THE SHOW TODAY, I WAS WONDERING,  WHY DON'T THEY MAKE DNA MORE AFFORABLE TO THE PUBLIC.  I WOULD SAY THAT MOST OF THESE ARGUMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN SETTLED LONG BEFORE THEY GOT TO YOUR SHOW.

 
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October 29, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

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I bet Gloria would be singing a different song, if it was the women that got stuck paying for something that wasn't thiers. Mothers are thinking of themselves and not the child from day one. Way too bad for the childern caught up in this.
Because you think that it would of been fair for that child to not have a father at all.  We do not know the whole story. All I see is this was a happy family until the new wife wanted more money in her account.  Nobody seem to take consideration that Enrique had the joy of having two beautiful daughters.  I see a mom that taugh about her daughter and what was best for her child.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

listen to your audience

Gloria Allred was totally off base she was getting embarrassed by the other gentleman. I think you coddled Gloria and should have listened to your audience. 90% of your audience agreed with the Black Gentleman because he made logical sense. Gloria got off on a tangent saying the problem in America was fathers not paying child support, how did that relate to the discussion ?  I believe what should happen: Enriquice should not have told his daughter in the way he did.  However, the childs mother was totally responsible and should be made to reveal the real father and be named in a lawsuit to recover all the money that was paid in child support. Enriqice should, if he is a real man continue to treat the child like his daughter without paying child support.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

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I think a mother in this situation should not ask for child support and do all she can to keep the man in the child's life.     Every woman in this situation can "make up" for her infidelity by doing what is right for her child, keeping the father figure is more important than money.   

 

 Gloria Allred is an embarrassment to all women lawyers.  (Just my humble opinion)

I couldn't agree more about Gloria Allred.  She put absolutely no blame on the mother.  What did this have to do with biological fathers not paying their required child support?
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

What I did!

When my son was 7 months old, I left his Dad. Before we went to court his lawyer was asking for a DNA. My lawyer adviced me that I did not need to do a DNA because the child was conceived during the marriage. However, I agreed to the DNA because I didn't won't his Dad to ever wonder especially since my son toke his looks from my side of the family. But proven that he was the father didn't really help. I do get child support but that has been cut down also and my son hasn't seen his Dad in four years because his Dad doesn't want to have anything to do with him. I agree with Dr. Phil when he says it's all about the child. My son still thinks his dad is a good guy because I don't tell him anything bad about him. One day my son will judge his father on his own, for now, keeping my child happy, healthy and loving is my only concern.
 
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October 29, 2007, 2:21 pm PDT

UNBELIEVABLE

THIS WOMAN SHOULD BE  HELD CRIMINALLY RESONSIBLE FOR NEGLECT AS WELL A FRAUD.  SHE CAUSED ANY PHYSICOGICAL PROBLEMS THIS CHILD MAY HAVE, NOT THE MAN.   SHE NEGLECTED THIS CHILD WITH THE EXAMPLES SHE HAS DISPLAYED WITH THE LIES GONG ON FOR SO LONG, SHE KNEW THIS WAS NOT HIS CHILD ALL ALONG.. THIS IS SO REPREHINSABLE ( SORRY ABOUT SPELLING)  I AM SO SICKENED BY THIS WOMANS ACTIONS I CAN HARDLY GET MY WORDS OUT.  THERE IS NOOO  EXCUSE  FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE AND I FEAR FOR HER SOUL THE DAY SHE HAS TO ANSWER FOR THIS UNBELIEVABLE AN LIFE ALTERING LIE.
 
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