Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

I feel so sorry for this child.  Her mother has no conscience!  #1  as a mother I can not imagine putting someone's name (whether it be my husband or not) on my child's birth certificate for convenience!  She started this poor child's life with a lie!  And then to see the way that she responds...with giggles???  YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!  It took all I had to sit there and to watch her! 

 

Now I do not agree with the way the dad handled things!  But he should not have to pay child support and the relationship between the dad and his daughter should be voluntary on both sides!  She needs to know the truth and can base her decision from that!  And the mom should have to pay him back!  How can someone morally do that?  I really have a hard time digesting it all.  WOW

 

Before adults make decisions that are going to greatly impact a child's life they should take time and seek counsel on the best move to make.  Good luck to this sweet girl!

    As a woman who does not shy away from the word "feminist", I am horrified at the mother's actions and the opinions of Ms. Allred.

    Would either of them defend a man's "right" to become a father by replacing birth control pills with placeboes? What if he damaged his partner's condoms to undermine their effectiveness? Why do some states still require a wife's consent to a husband's vasectomy?

    Because the decision/ desire  to become a parent must begin with the facts,i.e.- is birth control in use, can a pregnancy occur, is the woman monogomous????

    There is an inherent biological inequality to pregnancy. Men don't have the trials of pregnancy. It is easier for a man to not participate in the daily work of parenting if he chooses, regardless of child support paid. Men's bodies,careers and social lives don't HAVE to change if they so chose. That is Their Power.

    We, as women, hold a far greater power. The ability to start and nurture a life. As the the saying goes.."with great power comes great responsibility".  When a woman lies about the possible paternity of her child- even by omission- she should no longer have a "right" to her victim's money. I firmly believe that most men who would want to continue as the father would provide for that child. Why  should that require a specified amount that leaves his account and goes to the perpetrator of fraud?  In most states the child born inside a marriage is presumed to be the husband's. I feel we should be able to suggest that a wife be faithful to her husband without much disagreement.

   I, as a feminist mother of 9, want the demonization of men and the lionization of women to stop being the hallmark of "mother's rights"

   Equal rights should include equal responsibilty , especially in the realm of  parenting.

 It is true about Gloria Allred. Theres no such thing as a " good mother " who creates
a child through adultery, and then LIES about is is a selfish and Evil amoral monster.

       It appears, according to Gloria that every man should have every child DNA tested at birth to reserve his rights. Gee, what kind of chaos could that kind of mistrust in marriages cost? Maybe Ms. Allred is also a divorce attorney.

                                              Michael

As the mother of two sons and grandmother to two boys, it breaks my heart to see that a woman can lie to her husband and still he is expected to carry the burden for that lie. I do understand that the children are the ones who are hurt, but why is the mother not responsible for her actions. A man should be able to trust his own wife. Everyone is being so hard on the father, can they not see he reacted out of his own hurt. He is not the one who lied to this girl His wife lied to her own child for many years, she is the only one who knew the truth.

Shouldn't our sons have rights? This is the reason so many women continue to do this. They have nothing to lose.

 

 

Could anyone give advice on this situation:

An ex-fling took one of my male friends to court 12 years after she had a child.  He was only 18y/o at the time, she had a one night fling with my friend, while she was dating someone else.  She knew the child belonged to my friend but kept this secret.  She married her steady boyfriend at the time and everyone assumed the child was his.  Years later after she divorced, she took  my friend to court,  the paternity test came back that my friend was indeed the father and was ordered to pay child support.  Keep in mind that this is a child that he knew nothing about.  He was robbed of 12 years of that child's life and now pays child support to someone he doesn't even know.  He was a victim in this as well as the child.  This child's mother was very deceptive.  Is there any laws that can hold her accountable for not telling the truth and keeping this information from my friend for 12 years? 

women win no matter what. i am a woman with a son (grown now) , recieved child support. But i have seen more men suffer than not. there is so much to say but cannot say it all right now.

My brother lived out of state for a while. met a woman, got involved, she got pregnant. he moved back to home state with her, set her up in a home, took care of her and her child whom she already had.

she had the child, a boy, Josh. for 4 years my brother continued to take of her and family. they never married. she started dating someone, and soon to marry him. one day, she told my brother that she wanted Josh to have one father and that he could no longer see him. my brother and the entire family was devastated. Josh loved his  daddy (my brother) very much and we loved him very much. we all tried to reason with her but it did no good.

how could she do this? she told my brother that Josh was not his. Josh looked like him so we never thought any different. it would not have mattered to him because in his heart  Josh was his.

he got a attorney, paid for tests, only to find out that Josh was not his. the judge ruled that my brother could not see Josh ever again. 

so no matter what , the woman wins and it stinks!! 

100% with this statement.  Too many women have come to see getting pregnant as a way to get a *meal ticket*.  It has become a means to trap a man at any cost. Bottom line is...if you don't want to take a chance on having a child with someone don't lay down with them in the first place.  if you do choose to go there anyway, there are ways to avoid an unintentional conception.  Use three means of birth control if necessary.  If you do not know beyond every shadow of a doubt that you are willing to potentially conceive a child with someone don't have sex with them.  An ounce of prevention is worth 10,000 pounds of cure.  For a situation like this there is no cure, only damage control.  Stop this madness NOW!  It is no wonder our kids are struggling to survive this day and age. 

well... in this case I believe that the man has every right to stop paying that child support, but I also believe that he should continue to have a GOOD relationship with the said child...no matter who her father is.  They have bonded all these years, and who can stop loving someone who has been in your life that long.  It's not the childs fault....so why punish her!  Do whatever is right and just .