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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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Your situation was not intentionally and you did not deceived him. He made his choice then changed his mind. Much different from the woman on the show. Good for you in bettering yourself.

And MAYBE by the time you GRADUATE...the kids will be grown up and on their own & not see what WONDERFUL strides you made for "them"  by going back to school on you ex's child support!!!!!
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

All about money

The problem is all about money.  Millions of  biological fathers leave abandon or don't have relationships with their children (mine including) but they are required to pay child support by law.  They are not , however required to have a relationship with the child neither is the mother.  If this case is about the welfare of the child and not about money then why aren't biological fathers ordered to have a relationship with their children?  Yes, granted he should not mess up this girl's life and he should continue to treat her the same but why should he be required to?  The relationship is a moral quesion not a legal one, the only legal issue is money and if women can sue for back child support then men should be able to sue for child support back.
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

Can't believe this!

I cannot believe the woman who lied to her husband about paternity today. Not once did I hear of any actual consequences for her actions, which is why every time anyone brought up the fact that it was her doing she would just nod her head and smile! All the while everyone else is suffering emotionally and financially. Why does Enrique have to pay? Why aren't there ANY consequences for the mother's actions? Is her concsience supposed to take care of that? Maybe we should adopt that in our prison system...yeah right. She knew that she was lying and knew that if she could get Enrique to fall in love with the little girl that he would be hooked.

 

Our basic style of punishment in the US is to deter bad behavior. If every woman now knows that if she can just hold her secret a little longer she can get child support from any man she claims as the father (especially in cases where it is her husband) for the remainder of the child's life without having a relationship with him, the question is why wouldn't she? It is just plain extortion and I can't believe that she stood there like she was there for the noble reasons of the child. It makes me sick and I would love to see her go to jail for her actions because that is what she deserves. Was all the financial support over the 10 years not enough for her that she wants more and seriously thinks he OWES it? Common people. Where is the accountability? I kept waiting for Dr. Phil to rip her a new one and instead he just made her admit her ownership and then move on. What gives Dr. Phil?

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

Dr. Phil,

 

Today's topic has really angered me.  The attorney who went head to head with Enrique really fits the hateful descriptions most people attach to them.  Granted,  Enrique has developed a father/daughter relationship with the child involved, but I do feel he is entitled to a full refund of the support payments he has made throughout the years.  If the female attorney feels this is unjust to the child and her mother, perhaps she should provide monthly support payments to this child.  The  mother and the attorney fighting this case should both be in jail.

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

I'm a woman, but that doesn't mean I'm on the mother's side

I just saw today's episode.  First of all I feel terrible for the little girl.  What this child went through and is going through is unbelievable and I wish her the best.  I feel that the mother is responsible for all that has happened.  If she would have been honest since day one, maybe the little girl would have met her real biological father and have a good relationship with him.  I don't believe her ex-husband should pay one more cent.  He should be there for this child emotionlly but not financially.  If he helps the child financially it should be because he wants to, not because he is obligated to do so.  He was lied to for all those years and he is a victim here, but the way he told the little girl the truth was unforgivable.  What the mother did is very embarassing and I can't believe she did what she did.  The way she laughed, that was disturbing in so many ways.  Right now the most important thing is the well being of this child and I don't think taking it to court is the right thing to do.  He should be there for her if she allows him to be there for her and if she doesn't, then he has to accept the fact.  He had the opportunity to do something right and he blew it.
 
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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

The Mother is at FAULT

He should not be responsible for the support but still should have been there for the child. I honestly believe that the mother wasnt looking out for her daughter but only for her checkbook. She should have never requested child support on a child she wasnt 100% sure was his. She should have came clean and requested a DNA test. Like I said she was in it for the money. Maybe the biological father doesn't have a income like the accused father. She caused this mess she should have to clean it up without the accused fathers money. And to teach her a lesson she should have to payback every penny she has stolen from that man.

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

Are you kidding me?

Quote From: manofgoods

Hmmm...what I believe is that women like Maria are afraid to tell the men that their child isn't theirs, because they are afraid that he is going to leave her, & her family, & that's what I can understand on. It also happened with Frankie & Gwen a few weeks ago (just titled "Frankie & Gwen"). I also have to say that women like her aren't evil creatures. True, what she did was wrong, but probably has a good reason, & that women do bad things just as the men, but they're definitely not evil. No matter what bad things they have done, I would never degrade women, like calling them awful names & such, because they're totally disrespectful. I also think that the man should continue to be in her life, just because he's been in her life for so long. If I was in the man's situation, I would continue to be there for the child, & support him/her. Should DNA matter? Absolutely not.
You obviously have no personal experience in these matters; if you had, then your opinion would not be so one-sided.  How dare you make the defense that Maria probably had  'a good reason.'   Open your eyes.
 

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October 29, 2007, 3:32 pm PDT

Will She Blame Her Mother Later?

I wonder how long it will be before "Selina" (hopefully not her real name) starts to "act out" and blame her mother.  "Maria" is a dishonest, selfish, deceitful, arrogant woman--all of this is her fault.  If she hadn't been unfaithful, irresponsible with birth control, and then totally dishonest, none of this would have happened.  The gall of her to request child support.

 

But since it did happen....

 

1.  "Selina" and also her sister are being hurt very badly.  This is heartbreaking to see.

 

2.  "Enrique" is a victom for certain, but he should not have discussed this with "Selina" at all.  It was an adult issue.  His anger at "Maria" hurt the innocent child, who was his daughter (though not by birth), and his other daughter.  He was irresponsible and immature in his actions.  He should never pick up the other girl without her sister.    And how could he suddenly stop loving the child and stop being a father to someone he loved and "fathered" for 10 years.   I truly don't understand.

 

3.  His wife, "Mia" was right to instigate the DNA.  However, I think that since she has such an influence on him she should have urged him to continue to love and support this child--at the least love her, rather than what it appears she influenced him to do.  Shame, shame, shame.

 

4.  "Maria".  What more can I say about this disgusting woman?  The rest of  you have said it...

 

 

To close:  oh what a web we weave......

 

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

Leaving something out

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Bravo!  You are the kind of man I would have been proud to call a son.  It doesn't matter who made the child but who contributes emotionally to the life of the child.  You need to write to the so-called father on today's show and tell him what it means to be a man and a father.

 

LRRJOY

LRRJOY, BUT, the Mother should be held accountable with prison and fines given to her.  The focus should be on the child, it should, BUT the parent, whether a Mother or a Father, should be held accountable for a crime they commit. 

 
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October 29, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

Quote From: Flash

She is a waste of a human being.And she is a lawyer? That is really scary !!!!
Agree!
 
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