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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 29, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

Im sooooooo disgusted

I really cant believe what I've just seen and heard. Selina was hurt granted but, where on earth is Maria's repsonsibilty in all of this? Enrique and Selina were both victims of her crime and nobody seems to be angry with her. She should be locked up in jail for child endangerment and forced to payback any child support she recieved.

Dr. Phil you missed the boat on this one!!!!

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

That's bad all around

I think this guy should have handle telling his "daughter" better. He ahouldn't have put her through that. BUT his ex is wrong to the fullest. If I was her daughter I think I'd be blaming her. This lady should have informed him that there were others that could have father her child, but she didn't, she should be charged with fraud.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

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so once again the child suffers....this man that loved her for 10 years walks away cause she is not his blood...come on now...and as for her mom she is the one to blame if she did not sleep with someone else then this would have never happened....but her and her daughter want to blame him..maybe that was all he could do was walk away...what would u do if after years of raising Ur child the doctor says sorry but we mixed Ur child up in the hospital the day they born...??

 

so now all the happy couples out there that r haven babies r the sup to get a DNA test???

also it seems that this daughter has listen to her mom words cause that was not words of a 13 year old that was talking...

 

PEOPLE NEED TO STOP USING THEIR CHILDREN FOR MONEY!!!!!!! SHAME ON YOU......ITS A SAD WORLD OUT THERE

 

this girls blood dad needs to be found for soooooooooooo many diff reasons....

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

It's her responsibility to be mindful of who she is laying down with!

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Are you saying it is more the woman's responsibility to provide and take care of the child?

 it's the woman's responsibility to know who the father of her child is !!

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:17 pm PDT

Marla Pays

Enreque has admitted he erred.  In a perfect world what should have happened from the start is once Enrique found out he wasn't the father, Marla should have had to pay HIM back all the expenses he paid towards this daughter's upkeep over the years.  BUT he should have been able to keep and continue his relationship with her.  The daughter and the dad are victims, the mother is the deceitful person and should have been soley responsible for her lies.  She should have been the only one to "pay the price".  Unfortunately It's too late to make that happen now.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

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Dr Phil

You did have one intelligent persons view on this show. Aside from you," thought I would add that" in my opinion the black gentleman was the only one that made a halfway sense.

My opinion is that the mother of the young daughter is at fault in every sense of the word. Not only did she lie to her husband, she lied to the daughter. Can you imagine the reprocussions of such a lie? Does she honestly believe that her daughter would never find out? I think she is just a money grubbing woman, with no concern for her daughter or anyone else. 

C'mon Dr Phil.......you have a great show and I have the highest respect for you, Now tell me, what is up with having Gloria Allred on your show.........your stooping quite low with that appearance......

Thanks for hearing me out

RB

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

Oh Pleeeaaase!!!

This is not even a question of who is right and who is wrong...

 

If a man is not a child's father, he should NOT be responsible for any type of Fnancial support.  If he wishes to support that child finanacially, that should be his choice and definately not court ordered.  However, he SHOULD be Emotionally Supportive of the child if he has established a relationship with that child.  The mother should thank her lucky stars that she is not responsible to repay the money she coerced him into paying when she was aware that he MAY not be the child's father!!!

 

The famale attorney who is making the case that fathers should pay  for a child, regardless of paternity, is making a fool of herself!  Not only isn't she addressing the issue (and Dr Phil should be calling her on that) she is acting like because the husband made a stupid emotional decision he should be forced into finanacial support. HUH?

 

Yes, the husband was wrong.  He was an absolute idiot to do that to that poor girl. But does anyone realize that his anger was percipitated by the fact that he was forced into a financial responsibility that should not be his???  This is absolutely amazing!!!  As a woman, I'm disturbed that the courts even consider making a man pay, when HE has been victimized by his wife.

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

responsibility

Maria is responsible: she lied by omission in her marriage.
Maria's lover is responsible; sperm donors are still genetic parents.
Enrique is responsible; he parented Selina and then vented his anger on her.
Mia is responsible; she encouraged the DNA test that triggered the alienation.
Chris...is a responsible adult and caring stepfather.
 
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October 29, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

MIA'S MOTIVE

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I can't quite understand Mia's motive for questioning Selina's paternity. I do not believe she considered the damage the she would cause before she acted. Selina is suffering for the bad actions of three (supposed) adults. Everyone seems to be putting the issue of money before Selina's happiness. Her mother should be begging Selina for forgiveness and asking for Enrique to stay in Selina's life WITHOUT any financial obligation. That past cannot be erased. Mia. I suggest that you pray a little harder or try a different prayer. Enrique should stand up and be a real man. Yes, you were a victim. Now try being a hero!

HELLO MIA AKA ENRIQUES WIFE  ENOUGH SAID I BELIEVE THATS MOTIVE ENOUGH

 

 
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October 29, 2007, 4:18 pm PDT

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Ah Ha...It was rather clear in reading your comment ? that you did NOT see the show. As such, what would possess you to comment on a show you DID NOT SEE? Why would you think anyone would be interested in a comment about something you know nothing about?

In my opinion, if you have never heard of Gloria Allred...
Just an FYI, Carnell Smith is himself a victon of paternity fraud.  So his head is where it belongs! on his shoulder.  You obviously did'nt see the show from the beginning.
 
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