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Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

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Created on : Friday, October 26, 2007, 02:49:00 pm
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(Original Air Date: 10/29/07) Fraud. lies. conspiracy. They may sound like the latest Washington scandal, but these are allegations of exes at war over child support. Dr. Phil's guests claim they became victims of the perfect crime when they were led to believe they fathered a child that was not biologically their own and were forced to pay. First up, Enrique says he was shocked and angered to discover he was not the father of his youngest daughter, Selina, and that she was conceived during his ex-wife, Maria's, adulterous affair. Maria says he raised Selina but then abandoned her to save money. Why does Maria say Enrique's current wife is to blame for the fractured relationship? Next, 13-year-old Selina speaks one on one with Dr. Phil. Will she decide to let the man she once called Daddy back in her life? Then, Carnell Smith, who uses the online moniker, "Man4Justice," suffered a similar fate to Enrique, and but he fought and won. He says he's tired of seeing women trap men and get away with it. A heated debate ensues between him and feminist attorney, Gloria Allred, who argues that men like Enrique should continue to act as the father ... and continue paying! Talk about the show here.


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October 30, 2007, 11:58 am PDT

Defuse the anger! Promote emotional healing for the child!

I feel sad that people have become so greedy. If I was a judge to decide this case, I would order the mother Maria to pay back all child support to Urique, and order unlimited visitation for Enrique. Maria needs to take responsibility for her actions and not get off scott free.

 

The important issue here is the child. How else can you promote healing in this father daughter relationship, than defusing the anger Enrique has for being lyed too, betrayed, and deceived and then being forced to take responsibility for Maria's Child and her wrong choices. I know Enrique would work on mending the relationship if he was given justice. This child is not Enrique's responsibility, however he would voluntarily continue to love her if he wasn't so hurt and angry from the lack of justice. This would be very bennificial to the child.

 

Maria shows no remorse and seems to be more conserned about money than her daughters emotional wellbeing. This is what makes me so sad. I see this greed happening and men becoming embittered all over the place.

 

I trully felt Carnell Smith was very wise. I'm so glad you had him on the show. I didnt like the lawyer lady much she seems more focussed on the law than the issue and what was most healthy for the situation and the child.

 

 
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October 30, 2007, 12:00 pm PDT

Paternity Fraud

My husband and I are going to court today for the very same thing the show was about. His Ex-Wife tricked him into believing that he was the father for 7 years to a little girl. He had it thrown up in his face numerous times that he was not the father when he was married to her. He never had the guts to do a paternity test until 3 months there was a blow up and she took her away from us. That was what he afraid of if he did the test. Well, since she took her away from us, he decided to do a home DNA test and it came back as 100% he was not the father. Our court date was continued 2 times and finally we are going today...10/30/07!! We used to get her almost everyday after school and everyday during the summer, but she could not spend the night a lot because her mom said she had to help babysit her baby brother while her and her boyfriend were at work. My husband had a 1500lb mold fall from 5ft in the air at work and crushed his foot and had to have surgery, he still has to use a cane and is going to go thru another surgery. He is home everyday, but instead of us picking her up everyday from school like we did last year, her mom is sending her to LachKey. Child support has been completely cut off and she is not getting a dime. We are suing her for Paternity Fraud after this is all over with and hopefully our attorney can get it to where she will have to pay back all the child support my husband has pd for the last 7 years. This has nothing to do with money, but we feel that it's right for the real father to be involved in her life because she has a whole other family out there. My husband is not angry anymore and actually feels bad for the real father. Our main concern is if something medical happens to this little girl, her real family might be the only ones to save her. We found out the resuls of the DNA test 3 days after my husband was released from the hospital. He talked to his ex and she was feeling really bad and said she wanted to keep everything the same and did not feel that it was right for him to pay child support. Well, the only was to get that stopped was to agree to shared parenting and then she said she felt threatened we were trying to take her away from her mother. She completely cut all ties we had with the daughter except for every other weekend for 48 hrs. I look in her eyes and tell she has changed. When we had her all of last year when she was in 1st gradem she had straight A's, and now that we don't get her during the week, she is getting straight F's! We feel that is right that we get her everyday after school because I work 3rd shift and my husband can't work at all. We have plenty of time to work with her with school work and they don't. Her mom works FT and so diesn't her mom's boyfriend. Her mother does not get home until 5:30-6pm. She is completely taking advantage of the system. She has another child by her boyfriend and has been with him for at least 5/5 years and has not gotten married. She has been in a 2 year community college for at least 5.5 years....It is really frusterating to know that our child support that we pd went strictly to alcohol. She spends the night with her grandmother more then her moms....Well, I am done venting because WE HAVE TO GO TO COURT. Wish us luck and I will update the message doard tonight!!!!!
 
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October 30, 2007, 12:00 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

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Enrique was wrong in how he handled the news with Selena--big time!!  However, he should not have to pay financial support for a child that is not his.  He and the girls were all deceived.  Let them go after the birth father!  She should not go on deceiving everyone and get away with it.  But she should allow Enrique and Selena to have whatever time the two of them want to have together.  That tie should not be severed unless of a mutual consent between the two of them.
I agree fully!!
 
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October 30, 2007, 12:02 pm PDT

Not only do I not have any children, I also do not personally know anybody that this has happened to. I just think that Maria is horrible and wanted to share my feelings. I have no experience with any of these issues, but I believe I can still voice my op

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LOOKS like you are making there situation yours. Just because you had that experience doesn't mean this is the same thing, Maria should have been honest with her own child but the $$$$$$ was to good. !!!
 
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October 30, 2007, 12:06 pm PDT

Child Support

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Can you explain what VAWA  and Title IVD are? Are these organizations in Chicago, Illinois? I have never heard of either. I would like to know if they can assist me. I do not receive child support. I want my children to receive their child support money or the biological father should give up all of his legal rights. I am raising my children by myself.

I too live in Chicago and Illinois is second from the bottom in Child support enforcement.

You have to be on them like white on rice! And even then there is no guarentee.  If you would like help please respond.  I have been in this fight for 7 years.   True there are woman who get preganant for financial gain and make the rest of us look bad.  Like you I am going to school, raising my teenager, i'm about to start working and I am in the reserves. 

 
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October 30, 2007, 12:08 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

I think that if the child is not his, then he shouldn't have to pay for that child. But I really don't think he did it in a right way. I don't think he should have told her that he was not her dad and stopped visitation. The way he went about it was wrong. I know the reason he probably did it. I know they were probably going through it with each other (the parents) and he just wanted to get through the deal and then it doesn't help when someone else is involved, they just want to 'get rid" of the past. I just feel sorry for the child....
 
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October 30, 2007, 12:08 pm PDT

you make women look bad!

You readlly do!  I am proud to say I am an honest women with a daughter and a son on the way, and yes Maria they are both from my husband.  First of all, you sat there smiling and nodding like you were happy about what  you did.  If you were any kind of a women you would accept your mistake and let Enrique, the vistim here, off the hook as far as child support goes.  Second of all if you were a real women you would have told him from the start that he may not be the father.  You owed him that much after cheating and lieing.

Enrique, Ifeel sorry for you and I'm sorry that women did that to you, but I'm even more sorry that you stopped visiting that beautiful little girl. 

To the "high profile lawyer".  After yesterday I would never waist my money on highering you.  you looked like a fool.  I would rather spend my money on that other, "non-qualified" man to defend me.  I hope you realize that he made you look stupid and very incompetent to do your job!

 
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October 30, 2007, 12:11 pm PDT

10/29 Parent Trap

 I watched the show yesterday. And to tellthe truth it is a no win situation. Both people are in the wrong.

But I don't think the guy should pay child support to the kid. But in the mean time it will hurt the child. I don't think that attorney is right by making him pay child support. The momther needs to find the real father. And I think she needs to be in some kind of trouble for lieing to this gentleman. I don't agree with him on how he told this child.I know children need to have all whats entiled to them. Love, clothing, food, ect.

He must not have given any thought either about this like I said a no win possion

 
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October 30, 2007, 12:11 pm PDT

The lawyer was a moron

The part that got me was Gloria, the woman lawyer. She is such a moron. She ignored everyone to spew her message, which, by the way, had NOTHING to do with the show. She's an idiot in my book. What a waste of good air time!
 
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October 30, 2007, 12:13 pm PDT

Deal with the present ...

The mother should be legally bound to pay back every penny - plus interest! Just as she would demand for past child support if he had been the real dad. Now, right or wrong it is the non-biological dad's decision (and Selina's) as to their future. I would hope he would treat her as though Selina really was his own daughter and put away a trust fund for her when she is older. That way the mother can't get her hands on it, and he can redeem himself a little. As for the mother ... obviously she has issues with reality.
 
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