Topic : 12/25 Parent Trap

Who cares? Most people here know what I mean. Are you going to make this board about you pointing out that I write FRAUDED in my posts instead of DEFRAUDED......

I'm sure most people on here really don't care. 

But let me make one thing clear one more time just in case...................

Maria DEFRAUDED Enrique.

Amen!!!

I am self-sufficient woman myself, and it is embarrassing to see how some women are capable of using and manipulating men - and worst of all, using their children to achieve their goals.

And it always happens to the BEST men - the ones who just want to do the right thing, thereby openeing themselves up to fraud.

How can those women lay their heads on their pillows at night?  They set us back 40 years, doing anything to get someone to take of them instead of taking care of themselves.

An hour long show was just way too short to deal with a very complex subject. Clearly, Selina's welfare is of paramount concern. But, what about the alleged biological father.? I'm certain that the viewing and studio audiences want to know his identity and his views on the issue concernng  his alleged child and why HE isn't paying child support. And, why HE isn't involved with hisdaughter's life. Hopefully, there will be a follow up show.

It wasn't a quote...those are usually represented by...quotation marks. (Like the ones you added when quoting me) It was a paraphrase. Except the "der" part...there I was just being obnoxious, and trying to be funny.

If you haven't seen something like that in the Bible, I'm a little concerned about you ministering to other people. It's kinda in the basics...ten commandments....sermon on the mount. I'm happy to send you references if you need them. (now I'm being condescending)

Plus...I'm not angry. I agree that the adults are the problem, the choices made by the adults...hence my comment.

I was making a general reference to the moral decay in society. I was trying to be less preachy, instead of saying...if people would just quit fooling around before marriage,and be faithful to their spouse after marriage, like God said, then this wouldn't be a problem. But I didn't want to offend.

The tests I'm refering to are for diseases that ARE acquired by risky behaviors, and VERY rarely otherwise. They test ME when I'm pregnant...not the baby. And, they test me for them for each pregnancy, even though I can assure them that I have not been exposed since the last time I was tested, but they are "standard". (I'm quoting the doctor, not the Bible) So, I have to pay for them. They have nothing to do with paternity, and that part of your comment just confused me. 

Your ability to analyze what other people should have done in their past after seeing the outcome of their future is BRILLIANT.

But until personally experiencing the painful effects of paternity fraud (via my boyfriend), I'm sure I could have told everyone what they should have done, too.

 i agreee that he should not have to pay child support if child is not his. that should be his decision if he wants to contribute financially to her mother. the BIOLOGICAL father is responsible for the expenses.WHERE IS HE AT????  I think the 'step-dad' role is very important in this situation as he has been only dad she had known for 9 yrs. he WAS wrong in cutting her out of his life for all that time but he seems to have realized his errors. I hope they can get to a good place in their relationship and work on rebuilding some fo that bond even though will not be same as before.

I find fault with the mother for keeping this secret from everyone involved. She is person that holds the biggest of the blame. How can anyone do that to their own child??/

i know someone that has been paying support on child for 16 yrs and in back of their mind not sure if his son or not but to this day has not tried to find out. he feels that no matter what he is his son and will not do anything to break that bond.

I WISH THE BEST TO ALL OF THIS FAMILY.

When my son was  a junior in highschool his former gilfriend tried to pull that on him.....this was 1992, and I told him

then "If you are responsible we'll stand by you and help. But first we're gonna find out if you are." It's simple LOGIC to question the motives of a bitter and angry ex. I don't just blindly believe what I'm told.

Enriue's situation is different.

This is a subject that falls extremely close to home.  My fiancee is going through something a bit similar to this.  He has 1 child that he knows is his for sure the oldest.  The ages of the children are 18, 16, 15,15.  There was a question about 3 of the other children. The court system in PA allowed him to have genetic testing on only 2 of the children (the twins-15).  He was proven NOT to be the father of these 2 children.-with whom he never had a relationship with. 

We are currently going through the legal system to have a paternity test done on the 16 yr old.  With whom he had a limited relationship with at the convenience of his ex.  When she needed a babysitter he was good enough.  He has not been a vital part of this child's life.

He had previously requested through the domestic relations office a DNA test for her and they have denied this request several times in the past.  Now the mother of the child took my fiancee for child support for the 18 yr old, and the 16 yr old and the twins.  Being that the DNA test proved he did not father the twins he does not have to pay support for them. 

The reason she just took him for support now is when the oldest turned 18 he moved out of our home and into hers.

We have no problem at all paying support for the 18 year old.  However we both have a issue paying support for a child with whom no relationship has been established, and may not even be your biological child.   There was never any paternity documents signed at birth, however, the mother did put his name on the birth certificate.

The Domestic Relations office in PA is so messed up.  I am not sure how it is in other states.  But if the mother of the child makes a comment to you saying "how are you going to like paying me for a kid that isn't even yours" that bothers us.  I do not think that domestics should make anyone pay if you are told, and you have doubts that a child is not yours without the proper DNA testing. 

This is not fair to any fathers out there who are experiencing the same or similar situations that we are going through.  DNA testing has evolved so much in the past years, if it clears so called killers on death row why, I ask why can it not clear up paternity issues for so many fathers who are caught up in this whole paternity fraud situation?