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May 17, 2006, 7:38 am PDT

what is the anger really about?

My man and I have incessant fighting matches that always end up nowhere. He says that I always fly off the handle, but why is he always the one leaving the room or hanging up the phone? I've always considered myself a soft, kind hearted person, with alot of patience, and a ridiculous amount of understanding. Why is it that I always find myself yelling?  I'm out of control.  I know that there are issues from my past relationship that always come up. (in my mind)  I'm afraid to be manipulated and used like I was in my last relationship,  so I refuse to back down from any fight. Even if it's a stupid one.  But on the other hand, he's so insecure and sensitive, even if I am trying to stay calm, and just explain how I'm feeling, he's not listening.  I love my boyfriend, we're getting ready to move in together in July. Is all this fighting just our nerves? Or is there an issue that we need to resolve? How do we resolve an issue, when he won't admit it's there?  I can't even get him to watch Dr.Phil or read Dr. Phil to get some insight, he's not English.  Every time we argue, his solution is ending the relationship, but I keep fighting to hold on to it. Why? Because I want to so much.  I told him to find another solution.  But he really doesn't know what else to do. Neither do I. His insecurities have caused me to abandon most of my single friends, have caused tension whenever I do something with my non-single friends, and whenever he goes out of town or works, I'm at home doing nothing for fear that he'll get upset if I do call up someone to do something.  He flat out tells me that he doesn't trust me, but has absolutely no reason to.  He claims I cheated on him because I kept an old letter that my ex wrote to me in 2004.  He wants to know why I kept it, but my reasons are not good enough for him.  At this point, 2 years later, I don't even know why I kept it. Guess it was validation of some sort, for living 8 years with a man who couldn't tell me he loved me, but finally realized it too late, in a letter. But because of that he thinks I'm doing all this stuff behind his back. etc etc...  I'm at a loss,  I don't want to end it because he's insecure. I want him to feel secure. But how?     

 
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May 17, 2006, 9:36 am PDT

Thank you so much!

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I am 70 yrs old and I think that I didn't know my true self  until about 5 yrs ago. I think it does take baby steps and a whole lot of living, with joys and sadness, trials and hardships. If we can learn from all these and pay attention to ourselves and how we cope and maybe how we wished we would have coped. I know that I react to life in a different way than I did earlier in my life. I like myself a whole lot more now than I did then. I know that I can't be perfect tho I can try to improve and I can't expect others to be perfect.
 I loved reading your post. It seems like our society today puts too much emphasis on being young. You couldn't pay me to go through puberty again! And I'm much happier now at 49 than I was in my 20's. My 30's were mostly spent in depression, so you couldn't pay me to relive those again unless I could go back knowing what I know now. I, too, react differently to life now than I used to.
I prefer some hard won wisdom over a younger body any day.
 
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May 17, 2006, 9:47 am PDT

You need confidence, not another person.

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Hi everyone 

  

I have been separated to my husband of 11 years for just 7 mths.  Intellectually I know that I need time to grieve this and work on a new life for myself and my two children 3 and 6.  However I seem to have this need to find my new life partner immediately.  This has led to several brief flings and a 2.5 mth relationship with a man who is moving overseas for work (tomorrow).  I am devastated over the loss of this relationship.  I cared deeply for this man...I felt that I loved him but I also understand that those feelings may have been more about where I am the this person. 

  

I guess my reason for writing here is a desire for tips and advice on how to love yourself.  Why can't I put the energy I put into others into me and why do I let myself get so down.  I am lonely but I know that I am probably not ready for all that a relationship entails because these breakups send me back to where I was the day my ex left. 

We all seem to fall into this trap sometime in our lives, thinking that someone else is the answer to the holes in our lives.
Look at  it this way: you're probably not REALLY falling in love with these other men. How can it happen so fast on the heels of your separation? As you said, intellectually you know you need time to grieve. Emotionally, though, you believe that you need someone to love you, when what you really need is to love yourself.  As you can see, you are looking for love, but it's just not working is it?
The first tip I would give you is to make a pact with yourself that you will not see other men for a awhile. I can't tell you how long, only you will know when it's time to get out there again. But in the time you are not dating, make it a point to be as kind to yourself as possible. Make it a priority to learn as much as you can about yourself without the distraction and intrusion of someone else. The attention that you would have lavished on some temperary man give to your children.  Nothing can replace self-love. When we don't love ourselves we don't really believe that another can too, but we search for it and yearn for it anyway. Lacking self regard can lead to sabotaging our relationships.
 
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May 17, 2006, 9:56 am PDT

Counseling

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Hi. I am 21 years old. I've been in a lot of really abusive relationships in the past that have brought me down so far I don't even know who i am any more. I am finally in a relationship now with a wonderful guy who treats me like a queen. But I feel I am still screwed up from my past. I don't have a social life. I am living in a city where I don't know anyone, and the people at my work are all way older then me. I don't have a single friend. He has wonderful friends and a wonderful job and I feel jealous when he goes to lunch with them and not me. I feel left out. I am starting school in a few months, and he says I will make friends there, but I am so down about myself. I cry all the time. I am happy in my relationship, but the other parts of my life I hate. My boyfriend is older then me and has college degrees, and nice things. I don't have any of those things which makes me feel worse. He reminds me that I am only 21 and he was the same way when he was my age. I just don't know what to do. I am depressed, I can't stop crying, and I feel I am ultimately going to ruin our relationship if I can't stop being so hypersensitive.
 By your own admission you are jealous, screwed up, isolated, lonely, depressed, confused, afraid, and you hate most aspects of your life.
Step out of your misery and inertia and consider what you would tell you if you were your best friend.
First, you are entitled to your feelings, so telling yourself to snap out of it or denying them won't help. You have unfinished emotional business, "baggage" from your past. If you truly value your current relationship, do what it takes to get over your past and move on, or your fears will become self-fulfilling and you will ruin it. Find a therapist you can talk to, read SELF MATTERS, do some self reflection.
My best wishes to you.
 
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May 17, 2006, 10:15 am PDT

We can't change anyone else.

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My man and I have incessant fighting matches that always end up nowhere. He says that I always fly off the handle, but why is he always the one leaving the room or hanging up the phone? I've always considered myself a soft, kind hearted person, with alot of patience, and a ridiculous amount of understanding. Why is it that I always find myself yelling?  I'm out of control.  I know that there are issues from my past relationship that always come up. (in my mind)  I'm afraid to be manipulated and used like I was in my last relationship,  so I refuse to back down from any fight. Even if it's a stupid one.  But on the other hand, he's so insecure and sensitive, even if I am trying to stay calm, and just explain how I'm feeling, he's not listening.  I love my boyfriend, we're getting ready to move in together in July. Is all this fighting just our nerves? Or is there an issue that we need to resolve? How do we resolve an issue, when he won't admit it's there?  I can't even get him to watch Dr.Phil or read Dr. Phil to get some insight, he's not English.  Every time we argue, his solution is ending the relationship, but I keep fighting to hold on to it. Why? Because I want to so much.  I told him to find another solution.  But he really doesn't know what else to do. Neither do I. His insecurities have caused me to abandon most of my single friends, have caused tension whenever I do something with my non-single friends, and whenever he goes out of town or works, I'm at home doing nothing for fear that he'll get upset if I do call up someone to do something.  He flat out tells me that he doesn't trust me, but has absolutely no reason to.  He claims I cheated on him because I kept an old letter that my ex wrote to me in 2004.  He wants to know why I kept it, but my reasons are not good enough for him.  At this point, 2 years later, I don't even know why I kept it. Guess it was validation of some sort, for living 8 years with a man who couldn't tell me he loved me, but finally realized it too late, in a letter. But because of that he thinks I'm doing all this stuff behind his back. etc etc...  I'm at a loss,  I don't want to end it because he's insecure. I want him to feel secure. But how?     

 The only person we have the power to change is ourselves. And since YOU are the one that posted, I will concentrate on you.  You say that you both fight incessantly.  Even though you always considered yourself one way, you find yourself reacting in completely uncharacteristic ways now. You say you feel out of control. Is this the "cost" of being in a relationship? Is it worth it?
Is it possible that you are carrying baggage from your past relationship? Or is it possible that you have picked someone that is just incompatible with you but you are stubbornly hanging in there because you think you can change him? You need answers to these questions.
It sounds to me like you are both at a loss and haven't a clue as to what to do next. In this situation, I would strongly advise you not to move in together. If you can't get along now, close proximity will only escalate the emotions. Stop trying to get him to admit faults of his own, or change him. Work on yourself exclusively. If you need time with your friends to help you with this, make time with your friends. If he has a problem with this, accept that it is HIS problem, not yours. If you feel you have to, get some counseling to help you with issues from your past that may be sabotaging your present.
Stop thinking that you have to make a life with him. You HAVE to live with yourself, others are a choice. If he doesn't think he has any problems and won't seek answers for himself, why should you have to solve them for him?
 
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May 17, 2006, 10:39 am PDT

what is the anger really about?

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 The only person we have the power to change is ourselves. And since YOU are the one that posted, I will concentrate on you.  You say that you both fight incessantly.  Even though you always considered yourself one way, you find yourself reacting in completely uncharacteristic ways now. You say you feel out of control. Is this the "cost" of being in a relationship? Is it worth it?
Is it possible that you are carrying baggage from your past relationship? Or is it possible that you have picked someone that is just incompatible with you but you are stubbornly hanging in there because you think you can change him? You need answers to these questions.
It sounds to me like you are both at a loss and haven't a clue as to what to do next. In this situation, I would strongly advise you not to move in together. If you can't get along now, close proximity will only escalate the emotions. Stop trying to get him to admit faults of his own, or change him. Work on yourself exclusively. If you need time with your friends to help you with this, make time with your friends. If he has a problem with this, accept that it is HIS problem, not yours. If you feel you have to, get some counseling to help you with issues from your past that may be sabotaging your present.
Stop thinking that you have to make a life with him. You HAVE to live with yourself, others are a choice. If he doesn't think he has any problems and won't seek answers for himself, why should you have to solve them for him?

My immediate response to your message was:"oh my god, I don't want to live without him" and started to cry.   I can live without him, I did it before I met him, I just don't want to....  

I'm so unselfish that I can't even begin to know how to take care of ME.  I am a giver, I always have been. I don't know how else to be. And quite honestly I like me this way.   Our fighting is always about his thinking I am cheating, and me trying to get it in his thick skull that I'm not. I would never even consider cheating on him, if I wanted another man, I would just have another man. Why have the trouble of two???    I never thought that I was trying to change him. That never crossed my mind. I don't want to change him, I love him for who he is.  But being the girlfriend, should I tell him what he is doing wrong?  If I say nothing, I will not be happy.  We are compatible on many levels, this is what keeps me "hanging on" as you put it.  We just are not good at arguing.  I never knew how to argue effectively. And neither does he for that matter.  I end up just blowing up,and blurting out things that I never wanted to say, things that I ignored trying to be patient, and understanding.   

I say all this, knowing full well that we are in a destructive relationship. When the arguing is taking over the good stuff that made you fall in love in the first place you have to wonder "is it really worth it?" like you said.  But what if you think, YES it is worth it!  I suppose you're right I can change me, but not him, and if he's unwilling to change, it isn't worth it.  I'm very confused right now...  

 
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May 17, 2006, 11:37 am PDT

It's OK to be confused.

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My immediate response to your message was:"oh my god, I don't want to live without him" and started to cry.   I can live without him, I did it before I met him, I just don't want to....  

I'm so unselfish that I can't even begin to know how to take care of ME.  I am a giver, I always have been. I don't know how else to be. And quite honestly I like me this way.   Our fighting is always about his thinking I am cheating, and me trying to get it in his thick skull that I'm not. I would never even consider cheating on him, if I wanted another man, I would just have another man. Why have the trouble of two???    I never thought that I was trying to change him. That never crossed my mind. I don't want to change him, I love him for who he is.  But being the girlfriend, should I tell him what he is doing wrong?  If I say nothing, I will not be happy.  We are compatible on many levels, this is what keeps me "hanging on" as you put it.  We just are not good at arguing.  I never knew how to argue effectively. And neither does he for that matter.  I end up just blowing up,and blurting out things that I never wanted to say, things that I ignored trying to be patient, and understanding.   

I say all this, knowing full well that we are in a destructive relationship. When the arguing is taking over the good stuff that made you fall in love in the first place you have to wonder "is it really worth it?" like you said.  But what if you think, YES it is worth it!  I suppose you're right I can change me, but not him, and if he's unwilling to change, it isn't worth it.  I'm very confused right now...  

I think what you read in my post is that you need to decide to stay or leave. Read it again. The only thing I strongly cautioned you about was moving in with him. I really think that would be a bad idea at this time.  What you need is your OWN answers as to whether to stay or leave him. The only way to come to a definitive answer to this is to work on yourself. When you know yourself, you will know how to handle your situation. GIVE YOURSELF the opportunity to do this the right way. As Dr Phil says, "You cannot give what you don't have." What he means is that you cannot give, or recieve, love from another unless and until you are whole and regard yourself as worthy.  Until we truly understand and love ourself, the love we give is tainted. You two obviously care about each other, but it's not working.
I say this because I've lived long enough to know that lessons we don't learn have a way of coming back around to us over and over. They will come in the form of different people or different circumstances, but until we learn what it is about OURSELVES that we need to learn, every relationship or interaction will devolve to this level again. Only you can undertake to learn about yourself, therapy and self-help books are great guides, but you have to have the desire and motivation to go after it yourself. I think that you have anger and hurt left over from your last relationship, and maybe from earlier too. This could be a reason why you feel yourself reacting the way you do. Or, like I said, it could be that you two are incompatible. Again, working on yourself will help you to see this and accept it, if that is the case.
Your line, "I don't know how else to be and quite honestly I like me this way" implies that you may think I'm asking you to be selfish, or vain. Nothing of the kind. Selfishness and vanity are motivated by the desire to control or manipulate another. I told you that you could change only you, not him. You are not out to manipulate or change him in any way. This is self-help in order to be the best person and partner you can be. But to gain the wisdom to protect yourself and your best interests in the case that he doesn't have your best interests close to his heart.
 
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May 17, 2006, 1:57 pm PDT

THANK YOU

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I think what you read in my post is that you need to decide to stay or leave. Read it again. The only thing I strongly cautioned you about was moving in with him. I really think that would be a bad idea at this time.  What you need is your OWN answers as to whether to stay or leave him. The only way to come to a definitive answer to this is to work on yourself. When you know yourself, you will know how to handle your situation. GIVE YOURSELF the opportunity to do this the right way. As Dr Phil says, "You cannot give what you don't have." What he means is that you cannot give, or recieve, love from another unless and until you are whole and regard yourself as worthy.  Until we truly understand and love ourself, the love we give is tainted. You two obviously care about each other, but it's not working.
I say this because I've lived long enough to know that lessons we don't learn have a way of coming back around to us over and over. They will come in the form of different people or different circumstances, but until we learn what it is about OURSELVES that we need to learn, every relationship or interaction will devolve to this level again. Only you can undertake to learn about yourself, therapy and self-help books are great guides, but you have to have the desire and motivation to go after it yourself. I think that you have anger and hurt left over from your last relationship, and maybe from earlier too. This could be a reason why you feel yourself reacting the way you do. Or, like I said, it could be that you two are incompatible. Again, working on yourself will help you to see this and accept it, if that is the case.
Your line, "I don't know how else to be and quite honestly I like me this way" implies that you may think I'm asking you to be selfish, or vain. Nothing of the kind. Selfishness and vanity are motivated by the desire to control or manipulate another. I told you that you could change only you, not him. You are not out to manipulate or change him in any way. This is self-help in order to be the best person and partner you can be. But to gain the wisdom to protect yourself and your best interests in the case that he doesn't have your best interests close to his heart.

I read, and re-read your response half a dozen times. I know you're right and I know that I don't want to leave him. I'm not ready to let go just yet. But I will promise myself to take some time to really think about it and dissect my latest reactions. I don't want to change into something negative, which is what I seem to be doing.  I want to blossom and be fantastic worthy woman I know I am.   Some soul searching and a little more strength will get me through this. And helpful advice.  You're  great. Thanks. Will keep you posted as to what is going on. I'm sure to have yet another emotional night tonight.  Stay calm, just stay calm.  

 
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May 18, 2006, 9:53 am PDT

what is the anger really about?

Yesterday was a rough day. I was very confused and insecure about my feelings towards my boyfriend. Today, I'm stronger (it must be the sleep) and I feel more secure in myself. I've realized that I started to let myself lose control. It's not his fault, it's mine. I lost control, I forgot about me, I let him treat me this way.  I've always been the type of person to step away from an argument, to avoid any conflict, to forget who I was, and my beleifs.  This comes from years of fear of judgement, fear of not fitting in, fear of actually having to own up to what I feel, do and say. I'm 32 years old, it's time I own up to it.  No more losing control, no more changing my mind, no more yelling. Yelling gets you nowhere, it just gives you a headache and a sore throat. And no one is really listening to what you're saying anyways, all they hear is the yelling.  I still don't know what to do with my boyfriend  right now, so I've decided space is the best for us right now. Maybe a little breathing room will bring things into focus.  I know what I have to do for me however, and that's spend time with my friends, get back into my own routine and get back to eating the way I eat, and make sure I don't let that change because I have someone that is different in my life.  If I don't want to eat McDonald's I won't.  If I want to go dancing with my friends, I will. And if my brother asks me to be there for him for his "battle of the bands" contest, I will be there.  No more missing out on things, and letting myself down because someone else thinks it's wrong.  I'm a big girl, I can make my own decisions, and I can face my own consequences.  The next few weeks are all about me, and re-defining what  I feel I've lost.   I didn't realize that I was feeling the loss of these things so much. Guess build ups tend to create a wall that's hard to see over.    

 
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May 18, 2006, 10:03 pm PDT

What was this quote?

ive watched dr.phil since he was on Oprah and today i finally signed up to the message board! 

  

The big question I have is that somewhere the past i have heard dr.phil say something like "theres nothing about that i person that i dont like in myself" or something like that.  

  

Anyone know which line Im referring to?  

  

I really want to get this straight as i am trying to use it when dealing with how i see things.

by remembering this it helps to keep the focus on what really needs attention -- why Im thinking this was to begin with -- instead of things i cant change.  

thanks!!!! 

 
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