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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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February 16, 2007, 9:39 am PST

Yes!

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I appreciate the suggestion.  I'm finding Gary Zukav a bit dry.  I've was working thru Relationship Rescue but when I got to the place where I'm supposed to pull in my partner, I didn't quite know how to go about doing that so I stopped.  I have the demons and I want them to go away.  I'm open to pretty much anything at this point.  I take it you found it helpful?
 SELF MATTERS helped me change the way I value myself and my outlook on the world.  For me it was a prerequisite to his other books.
If you are familiar with RELATIONSHIP RESCUE, there is a chapter that asks you to "let go" of your "bad" self.  It goes on to describe the different types of "bad" selves that you might be catagorised as.  I was the whipped dog.  SELF MATTERS helped me to let go of this attitude.
Because I am no longer whipped and a victim in my own mind, others do not treat me as such anymore.
 
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February 16, 2007, 10:58 am PST

Help PLEASE

Yep, another newbie here. Sorry but please be patient with me.

 

I picked up Dr. Phil's book Self Matters last year. I confess I read it very superficially up to the point where you have to do the written exercises. Then I put it away for a while. That is, until I quit my job in December. I've been unemployed since Christmas so I figured with all this time on my hands I would read the book again to help me get a handle on my life. But this time I really read it -- highlighting certain passages, taking notes, etc. I am at the first area of written exercises where I have to recall and write defining moments. I did it for the 1-5 year old section but I feel overwhelmed to continue because I have so many memories that have shaped me into this person. So I'm at a standstill again. Frozen because I am too lazy to go on. I think I'm kinda afraid that I will put all this effort into doing these exercises and when I get to the end of the book, I'm still going to be an unemployed, unsuccesfull drunken disappointment.

 

My problem is that I want results NOW. I know that's unrealistic but I think that's a major part of the many life-problems I have. I think I suffer from depression but I don't have money or insurance to see a doctor and even if I did, I wouldn't want to take drugs. I tried to quit drinking and was doing pretty good for about a week but then I relapsed a few nights ago and got stupid drunk alone at my apartment and then at a nearby bar. So drunk that I don't remember half the night. I've been holed up in my girlfriend's house for two days because I don't want to see the aftermath of that night in my apartment. This isn't the first time.

 

I'm scared. Plain and simple I'm scared. I'm scared that I'm going to wake up one day at the age of 50 and I'll still be trying to find my purpose for being in this world. I quit my job because it wasn't what I want for myself. I want that job that makes me WANT to get up in the morning. The kind of job that isn't a "job." Yet I know that if I don't fix my soul, I'll never be happy.

 

I've got a wonderful girlfriend and she has a wonderful, smart 12 year old daughter. I love them to death and I just want help so that I can be the best for them and my family.

 

So I guess what I'm asking is, is there any hope? Or does all this "authentic self" stuff only work for certain people. Because the truth is, for nearly two months now of sitting alone in my apartment day in and day out, doing nothing --- just literally lying in bed --- I have made countless lists of my faults and lists of things that I would like to change about myself. And the time that I'm writing these things, I'm thinking, "yeah Sam, all you have to do is put your mind to it and you can accomplish it" and then the next day I find myself still in bed staring out my window and nothing has been accomplished because I don't know what I want to accomplish. Weeks have gone by like nothing. I quit my job because I wanted to improve my life but instead I caused myself more stress because I don't know how I'm going to make rent.

 

I'm sorry. I'm rambling and going on and on. I'm just hoping someone with a better grip on life will read this someday and help me out. If you've read this, thank you for taking a few minutes out of your life.

 
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February 16, 2007, 11:49 am PST

Instant gratification

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Yep, another newbie here. Sorry but please be patient with me.

 

I picked up Dr. Phil's book Self Matters last year. I confess I read it very superficially up to the point where you have to do the written exercises. Then I put it away for a while. That is, until I quit my job in December. I've been unemployed since Christmas so I figured with all this time on my hands I would read the book again to help me get a handle on my life. But this time I really read it -- highlighting certain passages, taking notes, etc. I am at the first area of written exercises where I have to recall and write defining moments. I did it for the 1-5 year old section but I feel overwhelmed to continue because I have so many memories that have shaped me into this person. So I'm at a standstill again. Frozen because I am too lazy to go on. I think I'm kinda afraid that I will put all this effort into doing these exercises and when I get to the end of the book, I'm still going to be an unemployed, unsuccesfull drunken disappointment.

 

My problem is that I want results NOW. I know that's unrealistic but I think that's a major part of the many life-problems I have. I think I suffer from depression but I don't have money or insurance to see a doctor and even if I did, I wouldn't want to take drugs. I tried to quit drinking and was doing pretty good for about a week but then I relapsed a few nights ago and got stupid drunk alone at my apartment and then at a nearby bar. So drunk that I don't remember half the night. I've been holed up in my girlfriend's house for two days because I don't want to see the aftermath of that night in my apartment. This isn't the first time.

 

I'm scared. Plain and simple I'm scared. I'm scared that I'm going to wake up one day at the age of 50 and I'll still be trying to find my purpose for being in this world. I quit my job because it wasn't what I want for myself. I want that job that makes me WANT to get up in the morning. The kind of job that isn't a "job." Yet I know that if I don't fix my soul, I'll never be happy.

 

I've got a wonderful girlfriend and she has a wonderful, smart 12 year old daughter. I love them to death and I just want help so that I can be the best for them and my family.

 

So I guess what I'm asking is, is there any hope? Or does all this "authentic self" stuff only work for certain people. Because the truth is, for nearly two months now of sitting alone in my apartment day in and day out, doing nothing --- just literally lying in bed --- I have made countless lists of my faults and lists of things that I would like to change about myself. And the time that I'm writing these things, I'm thinking, "yeah Sam, all you have to do is put your mind to it and you can accomplish it" and then the next day I find myself still in bed staring out my window and nothing has been accomplished because I don't know what I want to accomplish. Weeks have gone by like nothing. I quit my job because I wanted to improve my life but instead I caused myself more stress because I don't know how I'm going to make rent.

 

I'm sorry. I'm rambling and going on and on. I'm just hoping someone with a better grip on life will read this someday and help me out. If you've read this, thank you for taking a few minutes out of your life.

 Instant gratification is the bane of our age.  Nothing worth having comes easily, but you already know this at an instinctive level.
A little further in the book you will learn about the important decisions you have made that flowed from the mind set your defining moments helped shape.  There is a hierarchy to the decisions we make. In other words, if there are numerous decisions to be made, (and when isn't there?) you will naturally defer the lesser ones to the ones that are the most crucial at the time. I don't have my book handy as we are preparing to move, but safety and survival top the list. When these two concerns are threatened, the rest take a back seat. The rest of our decisions include issues of love, self esteem, spirituality, etc.  In your case, these two ARE threatened.  Nothing else will get accomplished unless and until these two are taken care of.  Turning to self-help books and what-not are just an evasion and avoidance of the very real decision you need to make right now.  If you leave the decision to get up and out and look for a job to support yourself much longer, you may find yourself:
1)Being taken in by your girlfriend.
2)Out on the street
3)Mooching off other friends or family

None of these non-decisions are very attractive are they? (in reality even a non-decision is a decision. It is the decision to take no action.) They have the potential of making you feel even more of a inadequate person and adding to that list of faults you made.  So, before you make the decision of leaving your job without another lined up into something worse, get up, and get out there looking for income.
Once you are employed and your safety and welfare are once again taken care of, you can return to your self-esteem issues and come back to SELF MATTERS.
Good luck to you, good things come to those that persevere.
 
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February 16, 2007, 6:37 pm PST

Welcome ....

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Hi everyone.  I'm new to this message board so bear with me, please.  I just ordered "The Secret" and and also started reading "The Seat of the Soul" by Gary Zukov.  I haven't read "Self Matters", tho.  It seems lots of people are doing that.  I don't know anything about being my authentic self.  I'm looking for friendship and support because I feel lonely and isolated.  The posts that I've read here, it seems like everyone is kind and connected.  I like that.  I've been working on a positive attitude and I do OK most of the time.  But then, in the middle of the night, I can't seem to get a handle on it.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

When you finish with Zukov's book  - or even while you are reading it ... both Linda & Feliss have read it and can help you if you need it or if you just want to discuss it.

 

Self Matters is rather hard reading when it comes to Chapter 4 ... Dr. Phil is teaching you how to do Cognitive Behavior Techniques and that chapter has you remembering your childhood and if your childhood is painful, you could get lost in the pain it brings up ... however, if you can read thru it, you'll be able to see how the whole process comes together.

 

My dvd is in the mail .. I was hoping to get it already; however, Tuesday will be a good day to get it to.  Oprah had a follow-up on that show today ...The Secret .. it's what I know is true -- I just want to have it remind me what's going on and to remember!!  remember!!  remember!!!

 
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February 16, 2007, 6:40 pm PST

Wish you well ....

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 I have been grumbling about my life with my wife. It SUCKS. Her 32 year old juvenlile delinquent is asleep on the living room floor. I have tolerated his drinking and drugs for 17 years. His mother says that he's like his father and she is afraid of him. I'm not afraid of him but I am sick of him. My brother says he's dangerous. I am 73 with 15 years of military service  and a few more years of  the intelligence services. I can be dangerous, too. The difference is that I was trained to be dangerous. He wasn't and is just another drunk. I love my wife dearly and we have talked about moving and not telling him where we have gone. I don't really believe she would. She matters to me more than my life, itself. Angry, fed up, I was thinking of just leaving. I don't believe we will ever be rid of him. I have decided that I am going to get her away from the stress caused by this loser. I am going to take her to a bed and breakfast up in the
Texas; hill country. Put the dog in a kennel, take her away and show her how much SHE matters and how much WE (our relationship) matters. Just getting angry doesn't cut it.

It's hard when you are dealing with her child ... and he's not going to change until he's ready to ...

 

I'm not sure how you could just get up and move ...  and him not find out ...  maybe you could move to a retirement community where only seniors are allowed and that way he won't be able to stay or hang around ... I know that in my city there are all sorts of places like that ...

 
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February 16, 2007, 6:48 pm PST

AHA!!! Chapter 4 has done it again!!!

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Yep, another newbie here. Sorry but please be patient with me.

 

I picked up Dr. Phil's book Self Matters last year. I confess I read it very superficially up to the point where you have to do the written exercises. Then I put it away for a while. That is, until I quit my job in December. I've been unemployed since Christmas so I figured with all this time on my hands I would read the book again to help me get a handle on my life. But this time I really read it -- highlighting certain passages, taking notes, etc. I am at the first area of written exercises where I have to recall and write defining moments. I did it for the 1-5 year old section but I feel overwhelmed to continue because I have so many memories that have shaped me into this person. So I'm at a standstill again. Frozen because I am too lazy to go on. I think I'm kinda afraid that I will put all this effort into doing these exercises and when I get to the end of the book, I'm still going to be an unemployed, unsuccesfull drunken disappointment.

 

My problem is that I want results NOW. I know that's unrealistic but I think that's a major part of the many life-problems I have. I think I suffer from depression but I don't have money or insurance to see a doctor and even if I did, I wouldn't want to take drugs. I tried to quit drinking and was doing pretty good for about a week but then I relapsed a few nights ago and got stupid drunk alone at my apartment and then at a nearby bar. So drunk that I don't remember half the night. I've been holed up in my girlfriend's house for two days because I don't want to see the aftermath of that night in my apartment. This isn't the first time.

 

I'm scared. Plain and simple I'm scared. I'm scared that I'm going to wake up one day at the age of 50 and I'll still be trying to find my purpose for being in this world. I quit my job because it wasn't what I want for myself. I want that job that makes me WANT to get up in the morning. The kind of job that isn't a "job." Yet I know that if I don't fix my soul, I'll never be happy.

 

I've got a wonderful girlfriend and she has a wonderful, smart 12 year old daughter. I love them to death and I just want help so that I can be the best for them and my family.

 

So I guess what I'm asking is, is there any hope? Or does all this "authentic self" stuff only work for certain people. Because the truth is, for nearly two months now of sitting alone in my apartment day in and day out, doing nothing --- just literally lying in bed --- I have made countless lists of my faults and lists of things that I would like to change about myself. And the time that I'm writing these things, I'm thinking, "yeah Sam, all you have to do is put your mind to it and you can accomplish it" and then the next day I find myself still in bed staring out my window and nothing has been accomplished because I don't know what I want to accomplish. Weeks have gone by like nothing. I quit my job because I wanted to improve my life but instead I caused myself more stress because I don't know how I'm going to make rent.

 

I'm sorry. I'm rambling and going on and on. I'm just hoping someone with a better grip on life will read this someday and help me out. If you've read this, thank you for taking a few minutes out of your life.

Welcome and you are not lazy .. this chapter is the most painful chapter in the entire book!  I sure wish Dr. Phil would rewrite the book and do a better lead-in ....

 

Anyway, if you are experiencing PAINFUL memories .. that's okay it just shows that those memories are the beliefs, labels, etc. etc. that you are still living to.

 

You wrote the 1-5 years so move on to Chapter 5.  Just continue to read the book ...

 

I suggest that you chose a goal when you get done with the book.. I chose sewing cause I could easily sit down and make a list of what I needed to do to learn to sew.   Then as you progress with you goal, keep the book handy and use it to help you figure out what you are saying to yourself.

 

For me, it was an eye opener because I've been wanting to sewing for over 30 years ...  I still have to deal with some tapes; however, I'm a much better sewer and I'm getting better at all the time.

 

As you practice your simple goal .. you are actually practicing using the tools taught in the book.  Then you will it easier to begin the slow and yes, painful process of bringing closure to your past and open yourself to your future!

 
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February 16, 2007, 6:51 pm PST

Shut down today ...

I'm really zoned out today and yesterday .. just way too much going on in my life and I didn't see it coming .. I usually would do my goal work and pick myself up; however, my only goal work right now is to exercise ... I'm allowing myself to eat whatever I want because I want to see where I am on the healthy eating and I want to just exercise and do my 3 100-less calories a day gig. 

 

It's time for me to let go of my need to control my food intake .. it's an addiction ... always saying NO, I shouldn't have ... tomorrow will be different ..

 

It's scaring me silly me -- however, in a month's time, I'll be at a whole new place ... 

 
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February 16, 2007, 10:36 pm PST

Instant Gratification Just Doesn't Come Soon Enough?

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Yep, another newbie here. Sorry but please be patient with me.

 

I picked up Dr. Phil's book Self Matters last year. I confess I read it very superficially up to the point where you have to do the written exercises. Then I put it away for a while. That is, until I quit my job in December. I've been unemployed since Christmas so I figured with all this time on my hands I would read the book again to help me get a handle on my life. But this time I really read it -- highlighting certain passages, taking notes, etc. I am at the first area of written exercises where I have to recall and write defining moments. I did it for the 1-5 year old section but I feel overwhelmed to continue because I have so many memories that have shaped me into this person. So I'm at a standstill again. Frozen because I am too lazy to go on. I think I'm kinda afraid that I will put all this effort into doing these exercises and when I get to the end of the book, I'm still going to be an unemployed, unsuccesfull drunken disappointment.

 

My problem is that I want results NOW. I know that's unrealistic but I think that's a major part of the many life-problems I have. I think I suffer from depression but I don't have money or insurance to see a doctor and even if I did, I wouldn't want to take drugs. I tried to quit drinking and was doing pretty good for about a week but then I relapsed a few nights ago and got stupid drunk alone at my apartment and then at a nearby bar. So drunk that I don't remember half the night. I've been holed up in my girlfriend's house for two days because I don't want to see the aftermath of that night in my apartment. This isn't the first time.

 

I'm scared. Plain and simple I'm scared. I'm scared that I'm going to wake up one day at the age of 50 and I'll still be trying to find my purpose for being in this world. I quit my job because it wasn't what I want for myself. I want that job that makes me WANT to get up in the morning. The kind of job that isn't a "job." Yet I know that if I don't fix my soul, I'll never be happy.

 

I've got a wonderful girlfriend and she has a wonderful, smart 12 year old daughter. I love them to death and I just want help so that I can be the best for them and my family.

 

So I guess what I'm asking is, is there any hope? Or does all this "authentic self" stuff only work for certain people. Because the truth is, for nearly two months now of sitting alone in my apartment day in and day out, doing nothing --- just literally lying in bed --- I have made countless lists of my faults and lists of things that I would like to change about myself. And the time that I'm writing these things, I'm thinking, "yeah Sam, all you have to do is put your mind to it and you can accomplish it" and then the next day I find myself still in bed staring out my window and nothing has been accomplished because I don't know what I want to accomplish. Weeks have gone by like nothing. I quit my job because I wanted to improve my life but instead I caused myself more stress because I don't know how I'm going to make rent.

 

I'm sorry. I'm rambling and going on and on. I'm just hoping someone with a better grip on life will read this someday and help me out. If you've read this, thank you for taking a few minutes out of your life.

How long have you been drinking?

My belief is that you really DO have to address the kind of destructive chaos that you bring into your own life with the kind of drinking that you described in your post. Alcohol may provide you with the ‘numbness’ you may seek but it sounds like you’re out of control and have been for a while.

Interestingly, you say that you, “wouldn’t want to use drugs.” However, it sounds like you are already using and abusing the MOST heavily abused ‘drug’ in our society. Alcohol is a drug and is also a very powerful depressant.

You say that you are scared. Are you scared enough to begin dealing with the alcohol? I don’t believe that you can effectively do any work on you until you get serious about your use of alcohol. I don’t believe that you can find the things that you say that you want and continue to drink.

Have you considered seeking public resources for help with your drinking? Getting serious about alcohol, I believe, is your first hurtle. There is no magic bullet to fix your problems. Alcohol can certainly make your goals unattainable, if you allow it to. You have to get honest with you about the severity of Alcohol abuse and dependence. Help is out there for you. You do have to want it badly enough to seek out help near you.

Once you’re clean and straight, you do have a choice about whether or not you will allow this substance to consume you and your life. Sobriety doesn’t fix everything, however, it does allow you to think clearly about how you want to make the changes necessary to find the peace and happiness that you want.

Just Some Thoughts. Take Care. I’m hoping that you value you enough to stop the kind of self-abuse that you described in your post.

Brenda :-)

 
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February 16, 2007, 11:06 pm PST

Thanks, Marcia....

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You are working and that's what you needed to do.  And the money isn't important because it's giving you so much more ...  experience and the time to see if this is something you truly want to do and it will open other doors for you!

 

Me, I bounce from not working full-time to working full-time ... I'm not sure what it is I want to do and I also know that when the time is right something will happen just like it did for you. 

 

I'm just so proud of you and you will be an asset to them because you don't think like them anymore.  Have you noticed that when your life style doesn't hinge on that paycheck you don't fall into the victim role anymore?

 

And I do miss you ... I looked in the audience this week for you and didn't see you at all.  But I looked!!! Did you have a family member tape the shows?

I think that you're right. Somethings happen in a predictable way while others kinda just jump right at you.

I really do believe that I under estimated the kinds of challenges that this job would offer.

 

Oh, I didn't see me or any of my friends and family in EITHER of those tapings. I was looking to see the very back...pastel blue....then to see a pastel blue dot.  NOTHING!

 

I looked for you in the Oprah taping and using the description you gave I don't think that I spotted you. Did you see yourself?

 

It definitely makes a difference when you have (retirement) money whether you work or not!

 

Brenda :-)

 

 

 
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February 16, 2007, 11:12 pm PST

Thanks, Linda....

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 I've been off the boards for awhile too. Glad to see that you are getting out and not at the beck and call of your mother 24/7.
And Brenda, you might want to consider getting Tivo, it' s pretty inexpensive now.  You can tape all the shows you want to, and view them in half the time because you can delete the commercials.

I'm considering TiVo.

I'm going to do another post a little later to talk about the new JOB!

 

Brenda

 
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