Topic : Defining Your Authentic Self

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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 11:20:02 am
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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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June 5, 2008, 11:52 pm PDT

Backseat driving - a modern communication

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Philosophy is not my friend.  

 

I'm working harder on using more "I" statements. I'm Appalachian.  Appalachians are taught to communicate indirectly or passively; especially, when it comes to elders.  Mom and I had another little conversation today, with a lot more "I" statements.  She apologized, then quickly changed the subject.  I think my directness caught her off guard.  I think it upset her, and that is not what I intended to do.  I don't think that my sub-cultural self is neccessarily a flaw.  I've decided that Mom's back seat driving won't kill me after all. 

 

 

that's an interesting phenonomen.  The idea that one can direct others from the back when traditionally, the back is where one must protect oneself instinctively.  I imagine that instict from eons ago must cause a huge amount of stress and propel people to shut people out of their life.  It is just one way I imagine that it is acceptable to shut people out. 

 

Taemanai

 
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June 6, 2008, 11:15 am PDT

Can't wait for you to get back

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We don't have internet service set up at the new house yet, so I'm only able to check in on a sporadic basis. I've been busy unpacking, cleaning, and painting. All of these mundane solitary activities have given me much needed time for meditation.

A nice little vacation...

I'm glad to see Grub and Marsplasti back, along with some new voices.

Take care.

Bet it feels really really good to be nesting once again.   Take care and enjoy the quiet time -- that's why I loved pulling weeds and swimming, I'm learning to mediate, to quiet my GOT TO DO lists that seem to be ever present.
 
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June 6, 2008, 11:17 am PDT

HOw scary .. yet .. beautiful at the same time

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Yep, my hands about ready to fall off.  (LOL)  But, I'm learning a lot about why I'm unique.  As humans we are all distinct; however, we share some similarities.  Pop culture is usually a given similarity.  Come on, we all know what happend to Britiny Spears. : - )

 

By the way, we got cable today!  I have been so deprived. LOL  My daughter is totally into the cartoon channel.  I give it a couple of days for the newness to ware off.  She still loves the zoo and pools more than anything else in the world.  

 

The weather has been so crazy around here lately.  We really need to be taking better care of our environment, because it's lashing back.  I just saw my first real electrical storm.  I thought it was something from a science fiction movie.  My neighbors and myself are soooo stupid.  We actually took chairs outside and watched the damn thing.  When a surge got close to one of the roofs all of us ran back inside with our chairs.  I was the only one to go back outside an hour later.  It was one of the scariest yet coolest things I've seen in a long time.  There was not wind, no rain, no thunder...only a bright sky lit up from bolts of energy.  It was lighter outside at 11:00 pm than it was inside my house with all the lights on.  You could feel the energy all around you.  My hair was standing on end.   

Yes, my hands ache from writing and writing . I've been journaling since  10/91 and it's been a wonderful tool for me. I'm able now to remember what I wrote a year ago. It's  like when I write, I'm talking  and conversations are something I do remember.
 
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June 6, 2008, 11:20 am PDT

Belinda ..

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Why I'm very reluctant to delve in this too much because I just don't think I experimented very much.  And I don't like to try and find memories that probably didn't happen & not be living life like it is a movie or show but as not as interesting but become more aware so that it is or at least enough so to be able to remember & grow.   

 

I found one has to stick to what felt & hoped for, with that realisations & improvements that will release me from whatever mind-set I had at the time rather than to do what I didn't as the outcome like 'A choose your own adventure' is always a new horizon rather than undoing anything that additional skills will actually make the better choice, better & would not have, even if the opportunity had been there.

 

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It's more like we remain the same because we feel safe and we are comfortable.  We don't make changes or look at ourselves for that exact reason.  However, I know that the UNKNOWN is a much better place than where I am now that I continue to explore the little box I live in.
 
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June 6, 2008, 11:31 am PDT

I would be more worried about other children.

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show that the sexually abused are often morbidly obese or neglected in their home-life.  Though I don't fit in this category as such.  I think that family-members may have & this created a tight-kit family against such things, even though it was never openly mentioned.  And again, this may be one of the reasons it happens in religious organisations.  People who fit in the neglected group seek a better way, but not all can achieve this.

 

That sometimes, it is an unrealistic goal to have.  And one has to see what is uncommon really very common in all areas of the community.  ie. There is pedaphiles in all parts of the community.  It's just that the tight-knit communities that would normally protect their young, sometimes couldn't.  ie. Aborigines.  And it was a slide downwards.

 

Cotton-woolling children is not a good idea as often pedaphiles aspire to do better, to have a better more stable life, and hopefully not follow past abuse but it happens.

 

I wonder if in the community, one should check the background of teachers etc., especially women, as abuse can be expressed in other ways, patterns children can learn.  Or, one should be teaching people not to teach their bad habits.

 

It is excellent that in Australia, they are taking away the changing schools system because then any problems will be more noticeable.  They also are rewarding more trained staff.  Again, this is excellent because more training = more ability to recognise & handle problems.

 

Australia should not be a fair maiden to be exploited, or an Aussie bull-dog (bronzed aussie) but a community that takes responsibility & acts on it.

I'm going to be honest here.   I'm more afraid of older children abusing younger children.  I've worked in the childcare industry for only four years, and I've already seen some pretty inappropriate things.  The first week I worked in a daycare, we had to discharge a 3 year-old boy for trying to touch another 3 year-old girl inappropriately.  He was a very sexual child.  We never suspected sexual abuse, simply because the managment knew this couple.  They were very liberal parents.  The kids slept in the same bed still, and they certainly didn't mind expressing their love infront of the kids. 

 

My daughter still sleeps in our bedroom.  She's going on 5.  Clearly, I am on the co-habitat side of the debate.  The only difference is, she has her own bed, and we have another bedroom for private things.  We would never do anything sexual in front of her, even if she was asleep.  I mean, what if she woke up? 

 

McDonalds play tunnels are a nightmare for me.  On two seperate occassions, I've caught 2 older boys trying to touch, or corner my daughter.  I wrote McDonalds corp. and requested that cameras be placed in the tunnels.  I actually screamed at one of the boys.  I was upset....I was very upset.  I noticed that he was cornering my daughter.  He was very possessive over her, and didn't want her playing with the other children.  I caught him looking to see if I was watching, so he could touch her.  I totally lost it when I saw him grab her arm and try to drag her into the tunnels.  I looked right at his grandmother and said, "My daughter doesn't like to be touched like that!  That is inapproapriate!"  He wouldn't let go of my daughter, so I looked at him, (since his Grandmother did nothing), and said, LET GO OF HER! NOW!"  He stood by our table while I cleaned up.  He didn't apologize.  He didn't say a word to me.  He just stared at my daughter.  He would whisper to her, "Come with me.  Come into the tunnel with me.  Play with me."  I knelt down and looked into his eyes and whispered, "No, she won't go with you.  You shouldn't do that to little girls."  He knew what I meant.  He was embarrassed.  His face turned red, and he walked away to find another little girl, I suppose.  I doubt that one conversation changed his ways.  Of course, his grandmother was staring out into space.  She could care less.

 
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June 8, 2008, 12:42 pm PDT

This can be scary!

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I'm going to be honest here.   I'm more afraid of older children abusing younger children.  I've worked in the childcare industry for only four years, and I've already seen some pretty inappropriate things.  The first week I worked in a daycare, we had to discharge a 3 year-old boy for trying to touch another 3 year-old girl inappropriately.  He was a very sexual child.  We never suspected sexual abuse, simply because the managment knew this couple.  They were very liberal parents.  The kids slept in the same bed still, and they certainly didn't mind expressing their love infront of the kids. 

 

My daughter still sleeps in our bedroom.  She's going on 5.  Clearly, I am on the co-habitat side of the debate.  The only difference is, she has her own bed, and we have another bedroom for private things.  We would never do anything sexual in front of her, even if she was asleep.  I mean, what if she woke up? 

 

McDonalds play tunnels are a nightmare for me.  On two seperate occassions, I've caught 2 older boys trying to touch, or corner my daughter.  I wrote McDonalds corp. and requested that cameras be placed in the tunnels.  I actually screamed at one of the boys.  I was upset....I was very upset.  I noticed that he was cornering my daughter.  He was very possessive over her, and didn't want her playing with the other children.  I caught him looking to see if I was watching, so he could touch her.  I totally lost it when I saw him grab her arm and try to drag her into the tunnels.  I looked right at his grandmother and said, "My daughter doesn't like to be touched like that!  That is inapproapriate!"  He wouldn't let go of my daughter, so I looked at him, (since his Grandmother did nothing), and said, LET GO OF HER! NOW!"  He stood by our table while I cleaned up.  He didn't apologize.  He didn't say a word to me.  He just stared at my daughter.  He would whisper to her, "Come with me.  Come into the tunnel with me.  Play with me."  I knelt down and looked into his eyes and whispered, "No, she won't go with you.  You shouldn't do that to little girls."  He knew what I meant.  He was embarrassed.  His face turned red, and he walked away to find another little girl, I suppose.  I doubt that one conversation changed his ways.  Of course, his grandmother was staring out into space.  She could care less.

I don't blame you for being upset, especially when the grandmother of one young boy seemed not to care what was going on. This type of attitude sends the wrong message to the youngster and sets him up for some punishment at school if he is not talked to before then. She may have been embarrassed or at a loss to know what to do, or thought it was the place of her daughter or son to discipline their child. Or maybe she has been the victim of abuse in her life and "froze". Whatever the case, it was wrong of her to not deal with the situation.

Did you talk to your daughter about why you were upset with the young boy? Kids can get a mistaken idea of fault from something like this. You could tell her that maybe the boy has no sisters and wants to know what the difference between boys and girls is, but it's not up to her to show him. It's up to his parents.

Around age 6 children get a rush of hormones that will subside again, then come back in puberty. It is around this age that you tend to see the "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" games. It is more about curiosity than anything at this age, but there could be aggressive behavior if a child has been exposed to the sexual behavior of adults, either first hand or seeing adult films or adults engaging in sexual activities.

It's important that your daughter know she did nothing wrong and did not provoke it. Be sure to let her know that its OK to be curious, but that you can explain and show her things better than another curious child can.

Your daughter is lucky to have you looking out for her, I worry about the poor boys you mentioned.

 
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June 8, 2008, 12:54 pm PDT

"learning" to meditate

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Bet it feels really really good to be nesting once again.   Take care and enjoy the quiet time -- that's why I loved pulling weeds and swimming, I'm learning to mediate, to quiet my GOT TO DO lists that seem to be ever present.

I use that term- meditation- loosely as I don't usually do it the way it is taught by eastern standards. (You know, sitting cross-legged chanting "OHM") I find myself drawn more to the practice of mindfulness, when an activity becomes rote and repetitious you begin to focus on the movement or sensation. For me it's a gateway to deeper levels of myself.

I bought a bicycle at a garage sale yesterday, and am experiencing resistance to riding it, which surprised me. I will let you know more about it later. For now I'm digging deep in my memories for all of those times in my childhood when my bike was a source of exhileration and freedom.

 
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June 10, 2008, 8:10 am PDT

It's amazing how much resistance the basics cause

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I use that term- meditation- loosely as I don't usually do it the way it is taught by eastern standards. (You know, sitting cross-legged chanting "OHM") I find myself drawn more to the practice of mindfulness, when an activity becomes rote and repetitious you begin to focus on the movement or sensation. For me it's a gateway to deeper levels of myself.

I bought a bicycle at a garage sale yesterday, and am experiencing resistance to riding it, which surprised me. I will let you know more about it later. For now I'm digging deep in my memories for all of those times in my childhood when my bike was a source of exhileration and freedom.

Linda, I know exactly what you mean -- I'm still experiencing a lot of resistance about working part-time. I don't want to give up my free time.  It's more about me learning to work thru my feelings and thoughts as I continue to work. Like I walked out of work last week with no work and felt scared. WHAT IF he doesn't have anything else for me to do ... then my sister ended up in the hospital Friday night.  I saw her Saturday night and then spent the day at Akron City Hospital - about an hour away waiting for her cauterization to be completed. She's doing fine - it's a direct result of her uncontrolled diabetes.  Only she can do something and if she chooses not to, I have to allow it. (don't want to -- but I will allow it)

Anyway, I want to get a bike as well -- I figure I'll ride it in my back yard so if I fall, I can fall on the ground and not on a sidewalk or street.  You got to keep us posted on how you do.
 
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June 10, 2008, 8:16 am PDT

Well, I was a brat yesterday ...

I was talking to B, my sister's hubby, and my mom kept jumping in and not allowing me to finish my sentence -- finally, without thinking I blurted out, will "mom, just shut up" and I completed my sentence. I can't believe how rude I was but she stopped.

It's a behavior that I hated to do .. but I was talking .. and she just hates it when I'm the center of attention.  She has to prove me wrong, or something.  Yet, at the same time, I hadn't been speaking for a few hours - I was reading a book and B and I were discussing stuff. 

Remember a few years ago when she kept doing that when I was visiting relatives and her sister kept telling her to let me speak that I had something interesting to say.  Yep, same lesson, different level again.

I know I hurt her feelings ... and I know that I'm just finally taking a stand that I should have taken when I was a teenager or young adult.  Even my nieces are allowed to speak -- just not me. 

Sometimes I feel, that I'm just working thru levels of growing up.  That I simply have to do things and allow myself to do it -- that as I do, I finally break thru my barriers and I can become the person who has a good heart and can stand up for herself without "worrying" that I'm going to hurt someone's feelings.  Does that make sense to you guys?
 
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June 10, 2008, 10:29 am PDT

yes; makes sense

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I was talking to B, my sister's hubby, and my mom kept jumping in and not allowing me to finish my sentence -- finally, without thinking I blurted out, will "mom, just shut up" and I completed my sentence. I can't believe how rude I was but she stopped.

It's a behavior that I hated to do .. but I was talking .. and she just hates it when I'm the center of attention.  She has to prove me wrong, or something.  Yet, at the same time, I hadn't been speaking for a few hours - I was reading a book and B and I were discussing stuff. 

Remember a few years ago when she kept doing that when I was visiting relatives and her sister kept telling her to let me speak that I had something interesting to say.  Yep, same lesson, different level again.

I know I hurt her feelings ... and I know that I'm just finally taking a stand that I should have taken when I was a teenager or young adult.  Even my nieces are allowed to speak -- just not me. 

Sometimes I feel, that I'm just working thru levels of growing up.  That I simply have to do things and allow myself to do it -- that as I do, I finally break thru my barriers and I can become the person who has a good heart and can stand up for herself without "worrying" that I'm going to hurt someone's feelings.  Does that make sense to you guys?

Marcia; Wow I have been experiencing the same kind of things. I too am trying to be a grownup and doing what I feel and not what other people want me to do. i call it taking control of my life and if people dont like what I do i dont care anymore. They are not me and not living my life. So lately I am like you standing up for myself and trying so hard to be a grown-up. Lately I dont worry about hurting peoples feelings.

My mom does things like your mom. Sometimes My mom is so mean so I back off and go somewhere else that she wouldnt approve of; but I am an adult and I will go and do whatever i want.

my mom also dictates alot to me what she wants me to do for her. I try so hard to keep boundaries and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. Most of the time I just want to stay away to avoid

the confrontation. It makes so much sense to me now that my whole family were controllers so that is why in the past and even now I tend to attract controlling people. Its a work in progress every day.

 

 

 

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