Topic : Defining Your Authentic Self

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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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July 24, 2008, 5:40 pm PDT

Good Point....

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I wonder how much of my son's new and improved attitude is due to the biological angle?

Scans done on the brains of teens show that they do not fully develope until 21 or so. Brenda, you probably know more about this than I do, I think it's the cortex? Anyway, they don't have quite the logical thought processes of an adult.

You have to remember, my son is 23 now. I think he realizes that the tantrums of a teenager don't work, in fact they work AGAINST him. Maybe for the first time in his life he is evaluating his actions and motivations in a way that is geared toward getting along in the world, not just getting what he wants.

I really do believe that until he was able to accept his homosexuality, he was just stuck. That one step of acknowledgment has opened so many doors for him.

There really are several aspects to be considered here.

It does indeed sound as if he is evaluating his actions and motivations with much greater care than you had described earlier. And, as for biological/ biochemical/neurochemical changes, key to ‘maturation’, one has to wonder how much that varies from individual to individual, as well.

In my experience far too little is known, even among those who specialize in these areas, to say with absolute certainty. Additionally, there is the issue of coming to terms with and/or accepting his homosexuality. That I believe is a process and requires time and support. While acknowledgement was crucial, that doesn’t just eliminate negative images put forth in our culture, that may still be ‘coloring’ this young man’s view of who he is. So this is a multi-faceted, individualized and complex situation for your son.

 

Please understand that, I did not mean to over simplify by addressing the natural instinct to test limits in one’s early twenties.

 

Brenda

 
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July 24, 2008, 5:42 pm PDT

I know that I didn't become an adult until I was 30 ...

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I wonder how much of my son's new and improved attitude is due to the biological angle?

Scans done on the brains of teens show that they do not fully develope until 21 or so. Brenda, you probably know more about this than I do, I think it's the cortex? Anyway, they don't have quite the logical thought processes of an adult.

You have to remember, my son is 23 now. I think he realizes that the tantrums of a teenager don't work, in fact they work AGAINST him. Maybe for the first time in his life he is evaluating his actions and motivations in a way that is geared toward getting along in the world, not just getting what he wants.

I really do believe that until he was able to accept his homosexuality, he was just stuck. That one step of acknowledgment has opened so many doors for him.

I remember  that when my 30's rolled around, I felt different .. the things I did when I was younger seemed crazy!  I began to want to have a home, to settle down. 

And I always seem to be telling parents that when their kids turn 25, they'll come home .. that they'll be changed .. up until then, they're just going to do their thing.
 
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July 24, 2008, 5:44 pm PDT

Shari

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I am not the person God purposed me to be, that is only because I won't allow myself to be who He has purposed me to be.  No person on this planet is supplied with the knowledge that God has purposed in each one of our lives.  No Scientist, Geologist, Archaeologist, Follosipher, Professor, Pastor, Psychic, etc., & etc., I could go on and on but then it would only sound like jibberish and ramblings.  I am no scholar, however Dr. Phil, I admire and repsect you based on your show which I have watched for many years.  I was moved greatly by the episode that aired at least a couple of years ago regarding a young lady who left America to go to a country in the middle east.  I won't dictate all that was disclosed around that show because it is not necessary.  I am certain that you know whcih show I am talking about.

 

I have an issue in my life that I have never been able to disclose openly and honestly about to anyone.  It has always been better for me to put things in writing and I am very apprehensive at this moment in disclosing something about myself in this forum.  I do so mainly because It is an out for me.  I don't expect to get a response to this message and that is why I feel free to say what I am saying at this time.

 

I dont' know what to do with what I have been through in my life up to this point accept to use the rational that I have acquired via books, prayer and life experience after the fact.  Most of the people who have used and abused me, have passed away and those who are still alive, do not acknowledge their part in why I am still harboring the events that have taken place in my life.  Okay, here it is!  I was molested, beaten and neglected for the better part of my early years.  Up until I was 16 by various men.  Some I knew only as my Uncle, but they were really not related to me by blood.  I didn't even know what a real Uncle was until I had my own children.  I was 23 when I gave birth to my first child.  I was a Sophomore in College, My brothers were my shelter and none of them ever got a girl pregnant.  My Father was NEVER there because he was totally committed to the military. 

 

I have so much more to say, and it gets deeper.  If my story is already interesting and it is the truth, let me know if I should seek help from Dr. Phil.

 

Bottom line is, I need some  closure from my Mother and my Father about my teen years whlle they are both still alive but separated.  I am 52 and still need answers.  Neither of them has remarried and still live in the same state.  My mother has never admitted to choosing her boyfriends over me and my Father is married to the VFW and has never made any attempt to visit me in more than 45 years.

 

I am sick about why he can't be here for me before he leaves this world.

 

Help Me If You Can Dr. Phil

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Shari

Dr. Phil doesn't do one on ones anymore .. however, he does have a network out there that use his books and processes to help others. They're actually certified .. Dr. Lawliss is the link there ... I'm not sure how you can find out about it.  If you can find the website, you can see if you can find a therapist that is in your area.
 
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July 24, 2008, 5:46 pm PDT

Linda ...

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I didn't know that!

So men (in general) are like horses and dogs in that too much looking them in the eye makes them nervous?

This is a valuable nugget of information....

It's not so much that it makes them nervous, they just don't need the connection like we do.  We need to be "grouped" they can function better without the grouping. 
 
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July 24, 2008, 6:38 pm PDT

For ME, It Was About Culture and Chaos....

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I have to say, I've never had any utilities turned off or didn't pay the rent.  I was raised to take care of stuff like that .. and lucky for me, they actually had a class in high school that I took where they taught me how to write checks and stuff like that.  If they hadn't, I would have really messed up terribly!  My parents never taught me stuff like that.  And my mom being the "nag" was always reminding us how we didn't have any money .. and that if she didn't pay the bills we wouldn't have lights or water or our home.  I heard that from the time we lost our home when I was 8.  It triggered her memories of her childhood when she literally lost everything when her parents divorced.  Actually ended up living in a 3 room shack that in the winter time, they closed the 2 rooms.  Eventually, the kids were farmed out to relatives.

We lost our home due to my sister's medical bills.  We found a better home.  But my mom losing her home twice was something she never got over.

That first time was also the last time, that I failed to pay the power bill or ANY other bills.

 

I was raised a southern girl, in a chaotic household, where the number ONE rule was: ‘ALWAYS make sure that YOU never upset your mother. If she becomes upset then you STOP whatever you’re doing to console/ placate her until she feels better.’ That was the central theme in my father’s home! Everything else- eating, sleeping, homework, house fire- was second to that! Nothing was more important than making SURE she wasn’t upset about anything, ever. Needless to say my twin and I consistently failed at that job because we couldn’t control how my mother felt/behaved/chose to react, to anything, period. Essentially, in that house, you could not have personal needs-unless you were my mother!

 

Another, important thing was, being raised in the South, it was assumed that every woman’s goal in life was to meet and marry a man and have children, at some point, because traditionally men managed the money! That included paying the bills. Traditionally, women were homemakers. Homemakers were expected to cook, clean, sew, tend the garden and prepare food. Since my mother did not act as ‘homemaker’ my twin sister and I did that.

 

We had Home Economics in school. That certainly DID NOT, in South Carolina, mean that anyone, taught any female about writing a check! No! No! No! I was allowed to have a saving account, not a checking account, when as an adolescent, I was allowed to work outside of the home.

 

I had NO working knowledge of managing household expenses. NONE! I had no experience to draw on, was taught how to write a check ONLY when it was clear and evident that I would need that knowledge just to live and conduct my own affairs beyond the home in which my father lived.

No wonder my father was rattled and giving lectures and speeches, as I was preparing to move!

 

And, as I’m writing this post, I declare, that old Nursery Rhyme, “He placed her in a Pumpkin Shell and there he kept her very well!” is stuck in my head!

 

Yours Very Truly,

Gloria Stein....(Oops!) That's, 

Brenda ;-) 

 

 
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July 24, 2008, 8:37 pm PDT

Shari.....

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I am not the person God purposed me to be, that is only because I won't allow myself to be who He has purposed me to be.  No person on this planet is supplied with the knowledge that God has purposed in each one of our lives.  No Scientist, Geologist, Archaeologist, Follosipher, Professor, Pastor, Psychic, etc., & etc., I could go on and on but then it would only sound like jibberish and ramblings.  I am no scholar, however Dr. Phil, I admire and repsect you based on your show which I have watched for many years.  I was moved greatly by the episode that aired at least a couple of years ago regarding a young lady who left America to go to a country in the middle east.  I won't dictate all that was disclosed around that show because it is not necessary.  I am certain that you know whcih show I am talking about.

 

I have an issue in my life that I have never been able to disclose openly and honestly about to anyone.  It has always been better for me to put things in writing and I am very apprehensive at this moment in disclosing something about myself in this forum.  I do so mainly because It is an out for me.  I don't expect to get a response to this message and that is why I feel free to say what I am saying at this time.

 

I dont' know what to do with what I have been through in my life up to this point accept to use the rational that I have acquired via books, prayer and life experience after the fact.  Most of the people who have used and abused me, have passed away and those who are still alive, do not acknowledge their part in why I am still harboring the events that have taken place in my life.  Okay, here it is!  I was molested, beaten and neglected for the better part of my early years.  Up until I was 16 by various men.  Some I knew only as my Uncle, but they were really not related to me by blood.  I didn't even know what a real Uncle was until I had my own children.  I was 23 when I gave birth to my first child.  I was a Sophomore in College, My brothers were my shelter and none of them ever got a girl pregnant.  My Father was NEVER there because he was totally committed to the military. 

 

I have so much more to say, and it gets deeper.  If my story is already interesting and it is the truth, let me know if I should seek help from Dr. Phil.

 

Bottom line is, I need some  closure from my Mother and my Father about my teen years whlle they are both still alive but separated.  I am 52 and still need answers.  Neither of them has remarried and still live in the same state.  My mother has never admitted to choosing her boyfriends over me and my Father is married to the VFW and has never made any attempt to visit me in more than 45 years.

 

I am sick about why he can't be here for me before he leaves this world.

 

Help Me If You Can Dr. Phil

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Shari

As Marcia indicated Dr. Phil no longer has a private practice. He also doesn’t come to the boards. If you wish to contact the show go back to the Home Page and hit the button labeled “Contact Dr. Phil”. If you feel that you can’t talk about this on network television, find a Therapist! What you have described is horrific! There is a reason that you’re in immense emotional pain and turmoil. You need to find someone that you can trust to begin healing!

I am so sorry that you had that kind of experience. My point is that if you can’t find help here, please find help in your community. You deserve help with this! You don’t have to do this alone! I am glad that you, at least, finally gave voice to the thing that you thought/felt that you could not openly and honestly share with anyone. This was not your fault! YOU have nothing to be ashamed of! You were victimized! Help is waiting for you somewhere you just need to find it.

As of your courageous post, you are no longer locked away and alone with your overwhelming and dreadful secret wounds.

 

I’m keeping YOU in my prayers!

 

Brenda

 
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July 25, 2008, 3:23 am PDT

Linda, it makes a lot of sense -

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Belinda, I once called myself an athiest, but I wasn't really. I just don't prescribe to the same type of God that most do. From a very young age I rejected the pious posturing and hypocrisy I found in the churches I attended. I understand that not all churches are like this, in fact as a teenager I went on a search to find one that I liked and that encompassed the things I felt and sensed around me. What I found was that once an idea becomes institutionalized, when it becomes a "religion", it changes and becomes vulnerable to manipulation and misuse. To me, spirituality is a very personal concept, and I keep it close and nurture it. I think every great religion has seeds of the truth, and I pick and choose the concepts from each that speak to me. I have learned to view organized religion as a means to band together with others to do good works for people. In this way I fulfill an aspect of my spirituality, and I can do it within any church's traditional framework without having to prescribe to their beliefs.

Does that make sense?

It doesn't matter, it makes total sense to me.

beautifully put.  I'm trying to think, we have a right, a godly right, for a good place for religious study & understanding and not take in the 'yuck' of many church groups in which personal choices & freedom are sacrificed/compromised for.  If one goes to a higher plane, one must have the way led, one can't know this without guidance or higher wisdom, that's for sure. 
 
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July 25, 2008, 3:41 am PDT

Marcia, that doesn't seem possible.

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On my journey, anybody and anything can be a teacher .. they're not substitute parents.  In fact, in childhood, we'll take the advice of a teacher before we ever take our parents.  Isn't that amazing ... that's why I always had strangers / others help me with lessons.

I'm an introvert in my natural state and an extrovert when I'm working, etc.  Comes from having an extreme extrovert as a parent.  Once I started learning what my real mode was, I was able to step back and out of all the crazy "not good enough" thoughts because for an introvert, I was perfect.  hee hee

unless one is born in a nunnery.  We take from our parents guidance and directions from conception but not 'firm advice' or 'preferred advice' a lot of the time, because from teachers, trained to ensure that our education goes 'right', is their way so that we don't feel too uncomfortable with new limits or because they require more of us than we are already giving or have somehow not.   

 

The goal, the way I've read it, is we will go nuts if we don't find a balance - between introvert & extrovert behaviour.  Even if we are predominantly one or the other, it is societies problem the expectations placed upon us to be an extrovert in society to keep it jovious & fun, & an introvert when the light is off so as to not cause problems & work industriously.  

 

I agree, people think that introverts are more perfect than extroverts but they really should be equal.

 

Because extroverts make obvious mistakes but also seem to be more readily forgiven or put into the too hard basket.  On the other hand, I think introverts make many small mistakes which many try to hide and so may go unnoticed.

 

I think that the question is one of outer harmony & inner strength. As opposed to outer discord like drinking & abusive behaviour & inner weakness, such as failures in growth & development.   

 

 

 
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July 25, 2008, 3:51 am PDT

Since on the topic of higher thoughts on doing good

Do we listen to people with experience?  That may or not be a teacher.  And I think that one has to think about that closely.  Because teachers will pass on misinformation.  They make this information clear, concise, sometimes told beautifully & with good intentions, but the real people whom have experienced something close-hand are in the end the only people whom can get a message through. 

 

Look at one of the astronauts admitting to seeing unexplained occurances in space & on earth with quite obvious explanations such as out-of-space beings & craft. 

 

If we are going to accept the reality that we want,  I think people want to know the truth, then this has to be accepted because that's it.  Same as our beliefs in other things.  We believe Dr. Phil does good because of those with first-hand experiences, how does this differ?

 

 

 

 

 
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July 25, 2008, 3:56 am PDT

Circling the truth,

highlighting patterns in our lives, printing it upon what is ours or ours to learn.  Understanding the dangers & risks of embarking upon a journey.  And then taking the consequences like a trip into the unknown.  That's what improvement is.

 

Reading a book like Dr. Phil's, learning what there is to learn & moving on.  We can really learn from outsiders to another place in achieving goals & moving upwards.   Imagine the kinds of lessons we are teaching others from another place.  We think that we teach others with our great works but I think that we are fascinating in ourselves & that is what we should convey in our literature & activities when reaching others whom are in need.     

 

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