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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 11:20:02 am
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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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October 3, 2005, 2:01 am PDT

Now, I'm butting in....sorry...

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Thank you for your quick response... I've found two or three moments, before the age of ten. So yes, there are a lot of things that I have SEEN as underlining those moments.

My counsellor said that she will will agree to read Self Matters with me, every other time we meet. She also said that she has much else to read so she doesn't have time to read the whole book. I can understand this, but at the same time it hurts me that she wouldn't have time to do something that is this important to me. I think she sees Dr Phil as yet another of those "babblers" that will misguide you. Yet, when I speak with her, I get the feeling she's on the same page as dear ol' Phil.

I seem to be a sea of different emotions right now. I'm relieved that Father is gone, I'm angry that he left me, I miss the person he could have been, the father he could have been, had he wanted to. I'm angry because of the psychological HELL that he put me through, I'm angry at Mother for the same reason. I stopped saying Mum and Dad when speaking about them when I was somewhere around thirteen, to their faces I still used/use the terms.
I'm missing my boyfriend like hell and it's getting harder and harder to be away from our - his - apartment, the only place I've ever been home in.
The light in school is the two friends that I've managed to make, and dancing. I stand at a crossroad, having to choose if I want to study dancing or theathre. I must choose before November. I'm leaning towards theather, since then I'd get to dance too... But I'm wondering if I don't want to dance more then act. I wanted to become a dancer as a kid, but was put down by Mother, my ex-best friend and all class mates I had back then.

I'm a mess and I try find a thread to begin with. Self Matters helps me tremendeously... and you guys! I recently wrote in an email to Teri that if we'd be "a real therapy group" we'd be great. It'd be one of those "lost people finds real group of friends"-movie thing. Well, my oppinion atleast.

Thank you all for existing and putting up with my whining.
Sanna-Terocia.

When I read your post I JUST HAD to respond! The feelings you describe , being angry and relieved, when your father died are actually VERY natural, given your circumstances. And, it’s far more common than people realize. Because many are just reluctant to speak so honestly and frankly about their true feelings. Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross speaks quite a bit about theses feelings in her ground-breaking work on grief, death, and dying! So, you can let yourself off the hook for experiencing these!!! I noticed that Ritehere speaks to some of the reasons that this is true in her post. 

Sorry, to butt-in. I just had to say that.  

I do wish you well in your on-going work! 

Brenda  

 
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October 3, 2005, 5:50 am PDT

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When I read your post I JUST HAD to respond! The feelings you describe , being angry and relieved, when your father died are actually VERY natural, given your circumstances. And, it’s far more common than people realize. Because many are just reluctant to speak so honestly and frankly about their true feelings. Dr. Elizabeth Kubler-Ross speaks quite a bit about theses feelings in her ground-breaking work on grief, death, and dying! So, you can let yourself off the hook for experiencing these!!! I noticed that Ritehere speaks to some of the reasons that this is true in her post. 

Sorry, to butt-in. I just had to say that.  

I do wish you well in your on-going work! 

Brenda  

  

  

Feel free to butt in, all of you. I really enjoy the responds and I check the messageboard several times a day. 

  

I'll have to look at her writings, to see if there's anything there to lear. My Father's death is an event that I want to keep. What I want to get rid of is the shame and guilt and pain. 

  

Again, anytime to want to butt in, please do. 

Sanna-Terocia. 

 
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October 3, 2005, 5:57 am PDT

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The thing about Self Matters is that it's no different than what's been around for years and years - Dr. Phil simply compiled the data, put in some exercises and explained it to us is terms that we understand.  If your new counselor has COGNITIVE THERAPY background & Behavioral Management - then she really doesn't need to read the book. 

  

Use the book to help you sort stuff out.  When you go in, you can discuss what you are feeling, what's going on with you and still stick to the book.  Dr. Phil will be teaching you how to LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING and working out when you wrote those scripts & tapes that you live to. 

  

And I don't think anyone had a decent set of parents when they were growing up.   How many people do you know that are working on developing themselves mentally, physically and spiritually?  Very few people are actually doing it.  And then there are some who have been doing it a really long time and keep searching for the next teacher, book, or class.   

  

Use your counselor to help you sort stuff out.   I wished I had found 1 to help me - then I could have done the work faster.   

  

  

Yes, she has a background within cognitive therapy, it was one of those things that I made sure when requesting to see just her. That she had a lot of experience with AS was another. 

  

Your posts help me keep myself on track, helps me have faith in myself. Thank you for existing.  

 
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October 3, 2005, 4:59 pm PDT

Sounds like you have a plan in place....

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Yes, she has a background within cognitive therapy, it was one of those things that I made sure when requesting to see just her. That she had a lot of experience with AS was another. 

  

Your posts help me keep myself on track, helps me have faith in myself. Thank you for existing.  

You shouldn't have much difficulty with your new counselor than.  The stuff that's in Self Matters has been around for years.  Dr. Phil simply put it in writing for the masses and it allows you to work thru each tool as you go.   

  

Keep a writing pad beside you to write questions or to jot down your thoughts.   I also wrote & underlined my personal copy of the book.   I don't know why people don't do it except that we were punished if we ever wrote in a school book; however, this book belongs to us. 

  

Since I've been writing in my book & I even change the "YOU" to I and Me's  it's made more connection for me. 

  

 
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October 3, 2005, 7:09 pm PDT

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 Somewhere along the way, you had a natural moment of awkwardness, that somebody else referred to as "shyness," and you've thought of yourself as that way ever since. I know that sounds incredibly trite. Look at it this way, you are not shy all the time, with all people. You become tongue-tied and awkward around new people and people you don't know very well. Would you believe that about 95% of people say the very same thing about themselves? Most people consider themselves shy! However, most people don't have the annoying reactions to the initial awkward feeling, like blushing uncontrollably, stammering, or simply "freezing" up.
The first step to overcoming the reactions is to start telling yourself something different. You're not shy, you have difficulties meeting new people, or talking to people you don't know well. Examine your reactions in depth, really hunt for that first time you heard someone label you.
Here's mine: In Kindergarten at age 5, I was at my very first parent-teacher conferences with my mother, and my teacher referred to me as "shy." I didn't really know what that meant, but she was the teacher, so it must be true. The reality was, I had a lot of ear infections as a child, and sometimes couldn't hear very well, so I missed a lot of what other kids said. I began to sit by myself, and play by myself, instead of seeming stupid by asking "what?" all the time. School work wasn't a problem, I'm an excellent visual learner, and after learning to read, I did most of my learning that way when my hearing was off. I'm an introvert, but I honestly don't know if that would have been true if I didn't have hearing problems as a child. To this day, I'm an observer more than a participant, but I've gotten over the annoying reactions when confronted with the new and unknown. If there weren't good listeners out there, a lot of talkers would be unhappy right?
(That's another label you can replace "shy" with-- good listener.)
Look for classes or books or interactions with others that will help you practice what you need to do to get over your reactions. There are many tools out there. Another helpful skill is learning relaxation techniques, breathing, meditation, etc. What you decide to use for tools is up to you, but it really does start upstairs in your mind. Shyness is just a label that was given to you to describe an outward appearance that others perceived.
Let me know how it goes.
o.k. maybe im not "shy" in the strictest sense, but i know i am not 'normal' like most people in that i get really really nervous and turn hot and just wanna get out of the situation when im forced to talk to someone i dunno. for instance today we had to this exercise where we go to a stranger in our class and find out some things about them. I HATE these exercises because it makes me feel so uncomfortable and i can feel that the person im talkin to thinks im weird cuz u can see it in my body language. anyway i got really hot and couldnt look them in the face and always knew that they knew exactly how uncomfortable i was. oh ya i was never called shy by anyone...
 
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October 3, 2005, 7:59 pm PDT

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October 4, 2005, 7:19 am PDT

Feng,

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o.k. maybe im not "shy" in the strictest sense, but i know i am not 'normal' like most people in that i get really really nervous and turn hot and just wanna get out of the situation when im forced to talk to someone i dunno. for instance today we had to this exercise where we go to a stranger in our class and find out some things about them. I HATE these exercises because it makes me feel so uncomfortable and i can feel that the person im talkin to thinks im weird cuz u can see it in my body language. anyway i got really hot and couldnt look them in the face and always knew that they knew exactly how uncomfortable i was. oh ya i was never called shy by anyone...
 Ok, so maybe I projected my experience onto you, that someone called me shy, and I assumed that's the way it happened with you.
Do you understand that if you keep labeling yourself this way, it won't get better? The first step is to accept that you have a problem talking to new people. (And I think you've done this.) There is a way to overcome the uncomfortable physical reactions. Its a choice. The choice involves doing some things you REALLY don't want to, like taking some sort of speech class. (A Dale Carnegie class on presentations comes to mind as a very quick immersion.) Or you can take it slow and easy by forcing yourself to say hi to a stranger everyday, something like that.
But you have to realize that nobody else can do this for you, nothing will change for you until you do it yourself. And it won't magically go away either.
I hated those exercises too, where you have to meet a stranger. You want to know something? The other person is not judging you, or thinking you're weird. They know exactly what's going on and they feel sorry for you. The next time this happens, have the courage to look up at them, and say, "I really hate these things they make us do, don't you?" Its guaranteed to smooth the situation and get them talking. After that it's easier to get through the rest of it. Just remember that 95% of the population considers themselves shy also, so everybody's going to understand.
 
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October 4, 2005, 1:19 pm PDT

Did you catch last Friday's show?

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o.k. maybe im not "shy" in the strictest sense, but i know i am not 'normal' like most people in that i get really really nervous and turn hot and just wanna get out of the situation when im forced to talk to someone i dunno. for instance today we had to this exercise where we go to a stranger in our class and find out some things about them. I HATE these exercises because it makes me feel so uncomfortable and i can feel that the person im talkin to thinks im weird cuz u can see it in my body language. anyway i got really hot and couldnt look them in the face and always knew that they knew exactly how uncomfortable i was. oh ya i was never called shy by anyone...

Last Friday's show would have shown you that you are not alone in feeling unvalued/worthless/or whatever you'r label is that you live to 24/7.   

  

And you don't have to look people in the eyes - did you know that?  In fact, many people find it offensive.   Look at their chins instead -- it gives the appearance that you are looking them in the eyes.    

 
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October 4, 2005, 2:04 pm PDT

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Last Friday's show would have shown you that you are not alone in feeling unvalued/worthless/or whatever you'r label is that you live to 24/7.   

  

And you don't have to look people in the eyes - did you know that?  In fact, many people find it offensive.   Look at their chins instead -- it gives the appearance that you are looking them in the eyes.    

 
Further thinking:

I strongly dislike looking people in the eye, it makes it hard for me to focus on what they are saying. To look away is to say that you're not paying attention, so insted I can be looking at the bridge of their nose, glasses, earings... Most often I'm studying their lipmovements, as that makes it easier for me to understand what they are saying. I have a hard time distiguishing one voice from a lot of voices or noises at all and to read lips helps me a lot. I prefer to meet one or two persons at a time, as more then that exhausts me greatly.

It's okay to feel this way. Take it easy, no one requires of you to have a thousand and two friends. It isn't how popular you are that counts. It's the person you are.

Best,
Sanna-Terocia.
 
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October 4, 2005, 6:09 pm PDT

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Last Friday's show would have shown you that you are not alone in feeling unvalued/worthless/or whatever you'r label is that you live to 24/7.   

  

And you don't have to look people in the eyes - did you know that?  In fact, many people find it offensive.   Look at their chins instead -- it gives the appearance that you are looking them in the eyes.    

i dont really have time with skool around to watch much TV as i try to go on the comp instead....so i didnt catch last friday's bit but um thats kool with the bit bout the lookin at chin i'll remember that (except people with big chins)
 
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