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Created on : Thursday, July 07, 2005, 11:20:02 am
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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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August 19, 2005, 6:58 pm PDT

Self Matters August 20/21

"The state of your life is nothing more than a reflection of your state of mind." 

  

--Dr. Wayne W. Dyer 

  

Thank you Lynn 618 for this weekend's quote. 

 
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August 20, 2005, 4:41 am PDT

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 Lynn wanted me to say Thank You from her. She will post in a few weeks.
 
Hey everybody, she's very busy right now, her husband is not feeling good again and she is caring for him. Send your affection and good wishes her way OK?

Thanks Ritehere, appreciate it.   

  

This is for everybody:  

( source http://flatrock.org.nz/topics/environment/beautiful_baobab.htm ) 

  

We all travel the milky way together, trees and men... trees are travellers, in the ordinary sense.
They make journeys, not very extensive ones, it is true:
but our own little comes and goes are only little more than tree-wavings - many of them not so much. 

- John Muir 

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:00 am PDT

purpose in words

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I dont understand you reply  

Its not a story it was my life, I have not repressed anything, othewise i would not have written about it would I?. If my poem opens one eye to my understanding then to me its worthwhile.  

answers, we all want them, at any cost, 

  

intellectually - poetry is a delicate art, filled with what's going on around us, often the magnitude is enormous, we can't quite express, usually all of it, but some of us are more open (inner-road), I'll give you that much.  Your poetry did seem that way, but I think truly universal poetry, of issues we all relate to, on the other hand, is a bit obscure, from issues that had complications, but not too many. 

  

impulsively - a first responce is not always the best articulated, when I look back at what I write, what I've articulated , I see it as a ring of truth to find first-most within,  that it is like we pass the same difficulties but in different directions, we are like vehicles on the high-way of learning about ourselves, and so true understanding is a reflection of many truths, many understandings and illuminations.  In otherwords, any responce is better than no responce, and might just enable thinking. 

  

Taemanai 

  

  

   

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:03 am PDT

May be tiredness and effort is also

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"The state of your life is nothing more than a reflection of your state of mind." 

  

--Dr. Wayne W. Dyer 

  

Thank you Lynn 618 for this weekend's quote. 

a state of mind, I wonder what isn't. 

  

Taemanai 

  

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:14 am PDT

Somewhere within we know everything there is

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It can be comforting to think that we are born with a master plan, that our soul picked likely people and scenarios to learn the lessons it needs to progress. It's also a great comfort to think of Karma in this way, if everybody's on "different levels" it makes it so much easier not to be judgemental. Yes I've done extensive reading, and continue to. I still have to admit, though, I don't know. All I know for sure is that there is something beyond this life, this plane if you will. I've touched it, it has touched me. I've been assured that it's OK to question. I know that what makes me whole inside usually doesn't involve "the easy way out."
I've also read that there are "exit points" that we can choose if this existence becomes too much. So far, I have been presented with several, and am still here. But I don't know. I don't know if being the best possible human will get me any farther in the big picture, I just know that it feels right. I'm comfortable with not knowing, and I've been assured that this is OK.

I think we all know things that seem to have no proof.  I think that we have created systems so that our life is the way we want it and that is to an agreed reality, like law and order.  Avoid an orderless society, the majority, has an agreed if not absolute truth, we can't live with.  So therefore what is unknown to us, is like this also, even if the truths that make it so, is hard to understand.   

  

I do agree with the who entering and exiting of this world, for reasons of order, I assume.   

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:21 am PDT

Living in a precarious time

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Grey Dog Wisdom: 

Fact: "Before your life can go in the right direction, you have to pull your head out and stop going in the wrong direction." 

Fact: "When you are at the bottom of the well the only way to look is up." 

Fact: "Make a plan and work the plan. Life is not a dress rehearsal." 

  

I suppose these things could show us for how really indecisive and unaware, when it comes to the obvious. 

  

Taemanai 

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:28 am PDT

A world apart

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This morning I went to the mountains with my dog to walk. We found our usual trail and began the ascent. As my mind calmed and I really saw what was around me I found that somewhere along my trail I had again lost my vision. The sky was brilliant blue and the grasses and trees were a vibrant green. With the rain we have had recently the plants were more alive than usual for this time of year. It was then that I noticed the ground beneath my feet was not solid but made of dirt and pebbles and rocks and the things that fall from the surrounding life. I realized how much "life" there was to a mountain. It is not just a mountain but a collection or rocks and stones and pebbles and dirt and foliage. While they are something unto themselves they also make up the mountain so while the mountain is it's parts, the parts are also the mountain. I realized that somewhere along the way I had gone from a mountain, to a rock, to the smallest of pebbles in the winds of change and the talk and chatter of everyday life. As I walked I was able to gather together all the things that had eroded away from me and become once again a "whole" person, made of all my parts just like the mountain.  When I looked at the plants I realized they relied on the mountain for the soil and the mountain relied on their roots to keep its place. In the scrub oaks there were hundreds of new acorns. Each one representing a new life. As these new lives take root, their roots preserve the mountain where it grows. And so I found that there are also "acorns" in me that if I allow will take root and preserve the essence of who I am. These new possiblities and ideas motivate me to move on to see new things and live each day. As I began to descend from the mountain there is a point where the sounds of the highway below can be heard. That is when I took all the thoughts and meditations from my morning walk and found my way back to life once again. It is not the actual journey that matters, it is the discovery of self on the journey that has the greatest rewards.  

  

Om Mani Padme Hum...LS  

yet like trees, we are all attached to some place.   

  

Taemanai 

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:36 am PDT

Last for the week

Coming on-line for the answers I seek, 

What do I decree, 

That each and everyone has thought about a topic such as 'better clarity'. 

  

That each and everyone has no gloomy thoughts 

Because life is for living and giving;  

For some, singing and kind words 

Others, living is enough and everything falls in place in time or with effort, 

  

Sayoonara 

  

Taemanai 

 
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August 20, 2005, 5:50 am PDT

It's was my mom for me

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I invited my MIL up for a week of our vacation. I did it in spite of the fact that any visiting in the past has ended with me feeling the need for something strong and a whole week of sleep and her comments on how i "Just need to come around to her ways". 

My husband and I had a long conversation on how he should intervene should the experience take a nose-dive.

Well.... needless to say, I should have seen it coming a mile off. Pulling my husband into "private" conversations. Expecting me to be her maid. Running roughshod over me. Going into pout mode to get my husband to pay attention to her instead of having vacation fun (She doesn't want to have fun, just do what she does. It is a vacation for her)

I didn't react well. I quickly had enough of becoming an outsider on "Our" vacation and suggested that my husband find her a hotel room close by, so that, if she didn't feel like joining in, she could spend some quiet time(without pulling my husbands chain). That was rebuffed as if I had told her to go jump in a cesspool(even though we had discussed a hotel beforehand and I have no clue how she ended up in the guest room). MIL goes into a hysterical crying fit. Husband says I am over-reacting. I suggest they just spend a day together to get it out of their system. That brought a response from MIL that "She would just pack now" and more tears, protestations of not being "aware" of any problem, etc.....

Well....... can we say that I LOST it? Yeah, I think I can. I had enough of hysterics and finally said I couldn't deal with that, suggesting she might need a minute to collect herself. She turns to my husband with waterworks turned on full throttle and told him she would just go, she was making things difficult. I admit, at this point I turned to her and said there was no need for us to play tug-of-war with my husband's emotional strings, we fulfilled two different roles in his life, she as his mother, me as his mate for life. We couldn't fill each other's shoes. I would never be his mother and she would never (I went too far) give him the satisfaction that I did in my wifely duties. I told her I refused to converse with her in thar fashion and refused to set my husband at odds in my own house.

Welll......  I ended up threatening to leave. MIL and hubby spent some quality time at my insistence, She ended up leaving just before my patience was completely worn thin. Now, I really don't want her back in my house. I had some respect for her before this, but now... I think it's all used up.  I have to admit, I would rather maintain a polite, but distant respectful relationship with her. I have the feeling after that powerplay she had the nerve to put on that she will just bring it full force now. I really see no need to "compete" with her. I absolutely refuse to bow down to being disrespected in my home or anyone else's any further.

Is there someone who is a MIL, or who has a MIL similar that can somehow explain to me what she was thinking?

Kim

I know how it feels Kim.  For years I've been working up the nerve to finally step forward and tell my mom how hateful she is to me and that she shames & embarrasses me when we meet with people.  There's a whole list of stuff that's wrong with me that she doesn't like. 

  

Yesterday, she admitted to me that she's HATEFUL to me. but her script is so well written that she's not going to be able to stop it.   I'm rather glad that I've read self matters because I understand where she's coming from and that she does love me - she just doesn't know how to be nice to me.  It was how she was treated as a child - it's what role I play in her life. 

  

I would suggest that you sit down at the computer and write her a letter -- actually maybe a couple.  the first one has to be a dump. Just let everything out.  It may take you 2-3 letters before you can peacefully sit down and write her a letter explaining WHEN YOU DO ________, MY REACTION IS _______.   Sit down and write the boundaries you are setting up. 

  

Let your husband read the letter before you mail it out.   If you decide to handwrite it, then you need to make a copy of it before you mail it out.   

  

I know how hard it is to finally step forward and begin the process of building boundaries that enable you to bring closure so you can move on to a healthier life style.  Right now, my bathroom mirror is filled with post-it notes -- one says " I KNOW WHAT TRIGGERS MOM - I CAN STOP IT".  I'm choosing to take the role because it's what I can control.   

  

And if you were like me, wanting a MIL-DIL relationship that you see others have, well, welcome to my world.  I can accept that my mom loves me.  I can accept that I've become the adult in the relationship while my mom has remained the child. 

 
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August 20, 2005, 9:20 am PDT

Another naming is occurring....

I ordered Rhonda Britton's book (CHANGE YOUR LIFE IN 30 DAYS) - I'm hoping it can help me with dealing with the "DYING FEAR" symptoms.   I finally am able to brush aside the "I'm dying" tape and replace it with truth.  Now, I'm finally able to experience/feel/name the emotional shutdown I have been experiencing since May when I first began to bring closure to my long time goals/dreams.  I actually was hyperventilating so bad that I felt I could collapse. 

  

Today, I wrote down how it felt to me and some of the side effects -- that will help me to remember it.  I'm going to transfer my words to my MEMORY book so that I can pull together a plan to handle it the next time.  It does get easier and easier. 

  

Marcia 

 
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