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Have you read "Self Matters" or become familiar with the process of uncovering your authentic self from watching the show? Share your story here.

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September 14, 2005, 1:32 pm PDT

Defining Your Authentic Self

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Mantras like affirmations; however, they can be as simple as saying:  HMMMMMM over and over again.  Or a short poem -- it's about focusing on something over and over again.   

  

You don't need 5 or 10 moments -- it's NOT ABOUT THE MOMENTS actually -- it's just the foundation to the program.   Just say OKAY to the 4 and go to the next chapter -- if you can only come up with 2, then do the exercises to just those 2.  You are just learning what moments, people, & choices are about.  The whole answer lies in the reading the book completely and then going back over the book as you began to face your life events or like me, a goal (Sewing). 

  

The pain is addictive and that's one of the reasons we don't want to give it up.   Yet, when you begin the process of listening to what you are saying and then naming what it is (type of internal talk), you begin to see how the process comes together. 

 

Hi there,

I'm now moving past chapter four after getting my thumb out. :) That pain is addictive, I already know... but I haven't realized that I was still doing it, just not cutting but mentally. I will get through this book! I will do it! I've made up my mind - and actually taken month off my relatives. I refuse more then two calls a week and will soon cut it down to one. I moved out of home 1.5 months ago and haven't had more then one nightmare since, something I used to have almost every night.

Thank you so much for all your kind support. I am tired tonight and not making much sense.

- Enzymbia.
 
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September 14, 2005, 3:17 pm PDT

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 It's hard to answer this since we are all different, but I will try. There are many factors that go into our state of health, mentally and physically. When one or more gets out of whack, it can be a round-robin of symptoms, some leading to others. Many times seemingly different ailments can have the same root cause.
I used to be very tense, and just plain irritated inside all the time. I had nervous habits, and like you just wanted the world to leave me alone. I also had a long list of physical symptoms, none serious, but I took all kinds of over-the-counter meds. I won't get into all that, it would fill a book.
My road to health and peace began with nutrition. I was overweight and had tried many diets, yo-yo'd and was not in good health or spirits. When low-carb eating came along I tried it because, hey, why not? Well it worked for me. Many of my physical ailments disappeared over night and the others over the next two months. And, the tense irritability left also. I was actually energetic but happy. Now, I'm not saying this will work for you, but if you eat a lot of sugar, try cutting it out for awhile and see if you feel better. It can be rough, especially if you have a hidden yeast problem and hypoglycemia that has been feeding on sugar, like I did.
The nutrition aspect wasn't all it took though, I had self-esteem problems and let stress lead me away from eating right. I needed some help upstairs to figure out how I got this way. I attended a hypnotherapy weight loss class, and was so impressed by my experience that I went to another to learn self-hypnosis. I now meditate regularly and use hypnosis occasionally. It's been a tremendous help in just about every aspect of my life. I also used Dr Phil's books to help sort out my faulty thinking and reasoning process. And last, I use exercise as a regular practice, not just for health, but for fun.
Like I say, we are all different, so what works for me may not help you. However, one of my sons was diagnosed with ADD, and benefited very much when I took away all sugar. I think he was mis-diagnosed, ADD is such a catch-all these days. I realize its a legitimate syndrome, so if you truly have it, you may not have the results my son did.
Thank's again for responding to my problems so quick.  I think I should try laying off the sugar but I must warn everyone in the Pikes Peak region before hand because it wont be pretty.  I live on sugar, it's what keeps me going.  I will also check out a few of your other ideas about relaxing.  I really need that the most.  As far as changing my regular diet, well that could be a small problem.  I wouldn't know how.  All the advice and books out there deal with weight loss and if I lose anymore weight than I already have in the past 6 months I will dissapear.  Weight for me has been a crazy thing in my life. When I was in High School I weighed 245.  Over the years it has been up and down. Up to 157, down to 135, up to 170, down to 135.  In the past few months it has taken a major nose dive to 127 and while fitting into a size 4 jean for the first time in my life is too cool, I dont want to lose anymore.  It's weird when I think about it. I am the youngest of 7 girls (no boys) and when my sisters were all teens they were skinny and I was fat. Now that we are all adults they are all overweight and I'm skinny. I like to think of it as poetic justice. LOL.  Of corse my sisters & my friends dont think of it that way and in fact most think I have a hidden drug problem I just wont talk about. I dont. I'm not even trying to lose the weight, it's just going away.  Anyway, I will try  some of your ideas about sugar & relaxing. Both sound like winners to me. Thanks again, your the best. Barb
 
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September 14, 2005, 4:11 pm PDT

You may want to get to a doctor,

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Thank's again for responding to my problems so quick.  I think I should try laying off the sugar but I must warn everyone in the Pikes Peak region before hand because it wont be pretty.  I live on sugar, it's what keeps me going.  I will also check out a few of your other ideas about relaxing.  I really need that the most.  As far as changing my regular diet, well that could be a small problem.  I wouldn't know how.  All the advice and books out there deal with weight loss and if I lose anymore weight than I already have in the past 6 months I will dissapear.  Weight for me has been a crazy thing in my life. When I was in High School I weighed 245.  Over the years it has been up and down. Up to 157, down to 135, up to 170, down to 135.  In the past few months it has taken a major nose dive to 127 and while fitting into a size 4 jean for the first time in my life is too cool, I dont want to lose anymore.  It's weird when I think about it. I am the youngest of 7 girls (no boys) and when my sisters were all teens they were skinny and I was fat. Now that we are all adults they are all overweight and I'm skinny. I like to think of it as poetic justice. LOL.  Of corse my sisters & my friends dont think of it that way and in fact most think I have a hidden drug problem I just wont talk about. I dont. I'm not even trying to lose the weight, it's just going away.  Anyway, I will try  some of your ideas about sugar & relaxing. Both sound like winners to me. Thanks again, your the best. Barb
If you are losing weight and don't know why, you could have a serious problem. I think one of the indicators of diabetes is sudden unexplainable weight loss.
In which case you will absolutely have to get sugar out of your diet.
Please, get to a doctor fast.
 
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September 15, 2005, 6:19 am PDT

to Lynn,

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 Lynn reads the posts, so I'm sure she will get your messages, but I will let her know anyway. Thank you so much.

Dear Lynn , 

  

My heart goes out to you during those horrible times. I offer you my condolences and my prayers. 

  

At least this friend of yours had a wonderful chance to have you as a friend. Sometimes it gets hard but sunshine Will Be Back . 

  

Amitie sincere Lyne xoxox 

 
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September 15, 2005, 7:10 am PDT

Lyne!

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Dear Lynn , 

  

My heart goes out to you during those horrible times. I offer you my condolences and my prayers. 

  

At least this friend of yours had a wonderful chance to have you as a friend. Sometimes it gets hard but sunshine Will Be Back . 

  

Amitie sincere Lyne xoxox 

Today is the big day isn't it? Hope you have a grand time! Moving into a new house can be so much fun. I have actually drank champaigne sitting on the floor of a new house before.
 
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September 15, 2005, 7:19 am PDT

Wish I could remember

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I feel really bad today. I wrote for the first time on this message board yesterday and I was just full of self pitty over the state of my life and my inability to define my authentic self.  It all seem's kind of dumb when I think of what your friend Lynn is going through.  I dont know anyone on the boards yet and I have never talked to Lynn but I feel for her pain right now.  I want to express my sympathy for her loss of a friend and for her husbands health problems.  Please let her know my prayers are with her and her family as they go through these hard times. Barb

Somewhere I saw it written that if you help someone up a hill, you are that much closer to the top yourself.   

  

I could say don't feel bad, yet that won't change much.  What I can say is your pain is valid, just as Lynn's is, and nobody is less than or more than here.  Your prayers count just as much!  I know my prayers are with you, also... 

Teri 

 
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September 15, 2005, 7:37 am PDT

So many posts that apply

Many have written that have spurred thought in my sleepy brain, and I could not post what I feel I need to by replying to any one person.   

  

Autism...great resource is Dr. Temple Grandin...she has a series of tapes.  She has Autism and she has a Ph. D.  Pretty amazing lady, really...did some work with cows as well as helping people understand what minds like hers are like.   

  

In my work in Self Matters, I am finding some interesting "side effects" for lack of a better term.  I am having very strange dreams.  Rarely is there a nightmare, but occasionally there is and it is usually centered around a major point of pain for me.  What I am finding is most of these strange dreams are ones of healing.  I will dream about people in my life that ties have been cut for one reason or another and in my dreams we discuss, forgive, and move on, still no longer a part of each other's lives.  Last night it was about my mother actually listening to me about my ex husband and the lies he told about me and this time she believed me.  I woke crying, and cried even harder when I realized it was just a dream.  I don't know if I am craving the healing from this so much my mind has created a fantasy world when I am asleep, or if it is my sub conscience trying to work through things when I am not "in the way" so to speak.   

  

Sometimes I wake very comforted by these dreams, other times I end up depressed.  There also seems to be a relationship to my menstrual cycle, the closer it comes, the more intense the dreams are and I often wake during them.   

  

I have seen my acupuncturist, and she has treated me for depression and racing thoughts, as well as to help me with making better eating choices, (which side note:  I have officially lost 8 1/2 pounds.)  I then wonder if the dreams are a combination of all these things and I just feel a bit unsettled because it is new, not familiar.  Sigh...I guess I am really feeling sad this morning, sad for others, sad for me, sad for the state of the world and my life, yet feeling as if I am being proactive and not just waiting for things to happen.   

  

On a more positive note, my boyfriend/mate and I have been talking a lot about our relationship, and the hostility we have both felt.  It comes from poor communication.  We are trying hard to make sure we are on the same page with each other, as well as on the same page with ourselves, so to speak.   

  

Well, the day calls, and there is work to do, so for now I shall go and say thanks to everyone for sharing what they do.  It helps to know we are not alone. 

Teri 

 
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September 15, 2005, 7:49 am PDT

Going To The Doctor

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If you are losing weight and don't know why, you could have a serious problem. I think one of the indicators of diabetes is sudden unexplainable weight loss.
In which case you will absolutely have to get sugar out of your diet.
Please, get to a doctor fast.
  Going to the doctor is a good idea but I think the first thing I need to do is get a new doctor.  The  doctor I have been seeing for the past 16 years just isn't working for me anymore.  When I go to see him he will come in and just stand there while I sputter and try to explain what I am feeling and where it hurts.  Then he will say I'll give you this pill or that pill and off he goes. I cant remember the last time he did an exam on me or touched me even.  Getting an apointment with him is always hard, I think he is the doctor that about half the parents in Colorado Springs take there kids to.  He has other doctors that work with him but I really dont like any of them. The one I always end up with gives me the willies.  Every time that man walks into the room my brain starts screaming SEXUAL PREDATOR!!!!  I'm not sure why because he has never done anything to me.  It's just a feeling I get when I see him.  Weird!  I am going to try to find a new doc for me and my son Jose.  Last school year he had Jose and me on the same pills for ADD.  We still are but now I take a higher dose.  I hate that I have to have Jose on pills but it's eather that or home school.  I dont think that would work because I didn't do so good in school and I wouldn't have a clue how to teach him.  What a mess.  Anyway, I guess I will start trying to find a new doc that my insurance will aprove.  Thanks again for all your help. Barb
 
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September 15, 2005, 8:02 am PDT

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  Is anyone else out there freezing to death out there, or is it just me?  I feel like the older I get the colder I get.  I would kill for a hotflash right about now to warm me up.  I guess I will just have to settel for another cup of coffee. Anyone care to join me?  I think that some day I will go to get blood drawn and all they will get is Folgers. LOL.  Just wanted all of you to know that after writting in here the past few day's has really made me feel less alone with my problems.  Just talking to others has helped alot. Thank God for all of you and thank God for Dr. Phil. I hope everyone on here has the best of days today.  I'm gonna try to myself. Barb
 
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September 15, 2005, 8:06 am PDT

Teri, for me it was death before dishonor!!!

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The wisdoms that are posted on this board come from real people, living real lives in places all over the world.  I also have much gratitude for this venue, as I can get feedback from different paradigms, and find that I am not "terminally unique" in any way.  That has been so healthy for me! 

  

I have had to do some reading about a Gestalt Group, as I had never heard the term before.  Sounds like an interesting way to approach group psychotherapy.   

  

When I read your post, the song "Comfortably Numb" by Pink Floyd came to mind.  I wonder if sometimes we have this protective barrier that keeps us from feeling, or at least recognizing feelings, when we don't know how to handle them.   

  

In the movie "What the Bleep do We Know" they talked about how the Indians in the Caribbean didn't see Columbus's ships because they did not believe they could exist.  They saw the ripples on the water, yet could not see the ships because they were beyond their comprehension.  Sometimes I think we don't feel what we are feeling because it may be more than we can comprehend at the time, giving us this flat, numb thing where we almost live as observers in our lives instead of participants.   

  

As a teenager, I used alcohol and pot to numb myself.  I had feelings of anger, hatred and rage, and because I couldn't recognize them at the time, I went numb.  I became quite depressed, using alcohol a lot.  My parents had no idea, so they took me to a shrink who put me on Elavil.  I took 30 of them and slept for 3 days straight.  Nobody knew.  Nobody really cared.  This reinforced the numbness to me, as if nobody else noticed what I was going through, why should I?   

  

Thank goodness I am not living like this today.  I love having feelings, even if they are negative ones, because they reinforce that I am REAL!  I am alive and I am experiencing my world as actively as I can and participating to the best of my ability.   

  

My heart is warm with appreciation for the words you have shared with me.  Thank you. 

Teri 

Thank You for your post! I think that you are absolutely on target about that ‘protective barrier’ and the inability to completely comprehend my situation in my early history. I believe that’s why I just kept on moving from task to task, not really thinking nor giving voice to the things that I simply could not fully understand. Though I do think that I bought into the idea that what was happening was my fault, because I always felt riddled with guilt 24/7!!! I am finding that the older I was in my defining moments the better I am at identifying feelings. However, when I say older I mean MUCH OLDER, like as a young adult. 

Elavil!!! You are VERY lucky to be alive! We do share some common experiences. 

I really had to stop reading when I read your adolescent experience. It was so painful for me. I even signed off rather than respond to your post. I was very deeply moved by your account. I had a very very similar experience at 15 yrs. old. An experience that I thought about for almost a year before, then actively planned for six months. I was puberty stricken and couldn’t even imagine my life being anything other than what it had always been and was already. Being the ‘good little Baptist girl’ that I was I had never consumed alcohol or used illicit drugs. No! Why, that would have been a sin!! (I had this built in belief about the way God graded ‘sin’.) So instead, one Friday night I went to the medicine cabinet and robbed it of about 7 very strong sedative barbiturates, that were prescribed for my mother. It was a drug called Doriden. (My parents called them her, “upset pills.”) Thus, stealing barbiturates for the purpose of ending one’s life was just…well…one of those minor things that God would surely overlook. On that Sunday night, I consumed them all and as I was telling my father that I was going to go to bed early, my Aunt Betty-one of my surrogate mothers- without calling, just dropped by! She really questioned ‘why’ I was going was going to bed early! Pointing out that that sure wasn’t like me. I was praying that she would not mother me right then! I assured her that I was just fine, just needed to get some ‘shut-eye.’ After repeatedly reassuring my Aunt Betty that there was NOTHING wrong with me I went to bed, hoping that she would just let me sleep. However, at some time later my Aunt Betty-I was told- went into my room before she left and found me unresponsive. I really don’t remember much about the rest of that night or the days that followed. I have some very vague dreamlike memories of someone forcing me to drink black coffee. My twin told me that my father had induced vomiting and then forced me to drink the coffee before allowing me to return to bed. I slept for about 36 hours after that. Then, no one ever spoke of it again. But, I was actually relieved that no one pursued that. I was SO embarrassed, humiliated and disappointed that I couldn’t even kill myself and get that right. I felt more inadequate than ever. I worried that I would be viewed as a FREAK for having done such a thing. I was devastated that I had been unsuccessful. I REALLY DID WANT TO BE DEAD! I actually mourned the fact that I wasn’t dead. Worse, I had disappointed and worried my father. He already had enough grief!!! The LAST thing he needed was another loose cannon!!! 

I had included this as one of my defining moments, however, it wasn’t until I read your adolescent experience that I actually realized how badly I felt about myself, my life and everything else at that point in time. I was able to fill in the blank spaces about that event, thanks to you!Thank You for your willingness to share something so personal. I am so grateful, to you for just offering that. I found ALL these ‘feelings’ after I read about your experience!!! 

  

Thank You, Teri!  

  

Brenda 

 
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