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May 30, 2008, 5:36 pm PDT

Changes, Yes. Miracles, No!

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Can you believe that today I had another "horrible" attitude with my mom .. I keep wanting it to be different and it's just getting worse!

And today, I told my girlfriend that I finally GOT IT!!  

WHATEVER I'M RESISTING, PERSISTS.  And I'm resisting my attitudes!  Time for me to back off and just allow whatever happens between us to happen because it's pulling my PAIN-BODY out of me and I'm really having a hard time with this energy.

I feel like I'm watching TV while it's happening.  The voice, the attitude, the emotions ... they're not me .. I can see, feel, and it's just like I'm watching it.  Kinda cool .. but it's not something I want to be.

Brenda & Linda, have you seen changes in your thinking and feelings since reading A NEW EARTH? 

I was thinking about your post this morning as I climbed out of bed early to get dressed and drive my mother and father to the back doctor. My mother uses every second of every minute of every day- when she isn’t sleeping- engaging in DRAMA and/or emotional blackmail. I’m the only one who can drive them right, now or trust me I would NOT be doing it! My father is my mother’s primary enabler. So, when she engages in passive controlling behaviors-just to inconvenience others- I intervene. However, my father has been conditioned by my mother to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that if confronted in anyway my mother, 110 times out of 100 will resort to tears and any other manner of negative attention-seeking that comes into her head. Further, as punishment she will climb back into bed, once at home and loudly sob, scream, or just plain sulks, broods, engage in petulance, insisting that she is ‘just too upset’ to get up out of bed for food or to do anything else for at least 24-76 hours. However, if she feels that the person hasn’t been punished enough with her passive demand for bedside service then she will stretch the time out for a week beyond the time she was confronted. My father brings her food, nervously waits for her next whimper or moan, to run to see if he can “cheer her up” He’s in emotional distress throughout the whole ‘DRAMA’ ordeal. I have said to him, “IT’S WHAT SHE’S ALWAYS DONE!!!” But, my father is going to treat it like a brand new experience each and every time! When that act has seen more performances than all of the plays on and off Broadway, since New York was founded! So, that’s WHY he doesn’t want anyone upsetting my mother! My father has problems with Blood Pressure and when my mother finally climbs out of the bed and his blood pressure is TOO high she has a list of people she chooses to BLAME for this. His brother or ME. (Others have stopped coming around.)

Personally, I know the routine. I know the consequences for challenging the routine. I have repeatedly assured MY father that I will not participate with her in game playing, when I’m helping him do 15 different things and my mother decides to interrupt by standing next to me with her arm hyper extended holding an object because she WILL NOT observe the tiniest courtesy of simply waiting to place whatever nor will she ask. She does this while standing BY the table and wants the item PLACED ON THE TABLE! Instead she will resort to huffing and puffing and finally say, “Here! Take This! I am about to fall down! I can’t hold this any more!” I then say, “Then, JUST PUT IT DOWN!” OR she’ll just point to something expecting you to get up and fetch it for her without her ever uttering a word. Now, MY father is SO well trained that he’ll just break his neck, jumping up to get it!

Well, today was like every other day she was passively trying to block people from either entering or exiting the office with her HUGE rolling walker, for the 1,000,000 time! It’s a favorite game of hers to have people WAIT and she WON”T move the D*** thing until someone asks her personally to move it! So, today, I just moved it away from the small foyer. She just leered at me.

She will do the exercises requested of her perfectly right up until the time the one on one stops then she begins doing them inaccurately -even with my father and I both re-directing her- until someone else COMES BACK OVER to re-address that. In faux sweetness, she tells them how much she appreciates their help and when they again disappear she starts the, ‘I can do this right routine.’ all over again! So, that even when my father and I are there reminding her about the appropriate movements she still wants others involved with her non-stop!

I ask her before we leave anywhere, if she needs to go to the bathroom before we go. Just as soon as we are back in the car, have her 75 lb walker folded and lifted back into the car, then she calmly says, “I believe I will go to the bathroom after all!” So, she gets another opportunity to do the ‘anguished, Sarah Bernhardt’ walk back into the office. (Which, at home and without an audience, is a quick noise-free sprint.)

After packing her and her 75 lb walker back into the car, she then turns and says, with phoniness that few can imagine, “You don’t know how much I appreciate you.” Well, yes I really DO. She’s been careful to show me that throughout my life! So, when we were stopped at a fast food place, at my father’s request, she actually asks me, “Why do you hate me? I’m Your mother, you know!” After explaining to her that I didn’t “hate” her but went on to identify the numerous behaviors, manipulations, etc that I literally despise about her, I then added that after using people for your own amusement and then telling them you appreciate them is like preparing a crap sandwich for someone and placing their favorite jam on it, I explained. “What you’re consistently missing is the fact that you’re still offering up a Crap Sandwich!”

My father called me after they returned home. He sounded distressed again saying, "Your mother has always had trouble with her nerves! You know that!" I responded with,

"Actually, she just has NERVE, Dad!"

 

Oh, well. It’s progress, not perfection!

 

Brenda

 
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May 31, 2008, 4:20 am PDT

Old patterns play again & again

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I think when it comes to bullying there is way too much emphasis on it in the Australian media and the Australian school system.

 

Now don't get me wrong - bullying certainly does exist and it is quite insidious.  However much of what our kids call bullying is simply teasing and the inability to respond to that teasing results in hurt feelings.

 

Bullying is when someone physically strikes and keeps right on doing it - or when they continually deliver verbal insults about something over which we have no control - for instance calling someone Blue because they have red hair - knowing that it upsets them.  Or calling their mother fat - something the kid can't control - that is bullying.  Inappropriate behaviour in schoolyards is now not just tolerated but ignored because teachers won't and don't want to get involved in the social aspects of the children in their care.  I suppose they would stop if someone was actually being killed.

 

Whn it comes to being a victim - some of us simply decide to adopt that role in our life because without it we may not get the attention that we all seek - some more desperately than others.

 

I think we need to follow the covenants that Jesus placed before us 2000 years ago:

 

1. Love and respect God

2. Love each other as I have loved you.

 

Common courtesy, good manners and respect for the lives and feelings of others is what we should be teaching our kids in school and outside of it.

 

The we all must do though is

 

Continue forward

The thing about Australians, is that they think they can solve all their own problems.  And one's life revolves around what one thinks is right or what should be.  But in reality, it often turns out to be false, like idols.

 

Because everything seems to upset everything else.  And it is the weak who ultimately are the losers without having achieved anything or found any direction.  If one had been respectful & courteous to everyone, this whole situation could have been avoided, but also being unable to help or take responsibility seems to be majorly bad too, just like bullying.  You'd think parents or adults shouldn't bully etc. but for some reason, they do.  They're not always courteous & respectful.  And I wonder if that is people get so isolated.  Due to the lack of acceptance of this behaviour, generally, in Australia & in the playground.  We accept bullying without actually realizing it.  Because we can't see in the higher terms and are so set in one's affections, centring on basic resentments & angry thoughts rather than on a higher being.  Because what we set out to achieve never occurs with an outcome that makes any sense or reward.

 

Seeking attention is the basis of behaviours and people often dislike seeing that in others & prefer to change it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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May 31, 2008, 4:29 am PDT

Brenda,

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I was thinking about your post this morning as I climbed out of bed early to get dressed and drive my mother and father to the back doctor. My mother uses every second of every minute of every day- when she isnt sleeping- engaging in DRAMA and/or emotional blackmail. Im the only one who can drive them right, now or trust me I would NOT be doing it! My father is my mothers primary enabler. So, when she engages in passive controlling behaviors-just to inconvenience others- I intervene. However, my father has been conditioned by my mother to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that if confronted in anyway my mother, 110 times out of 100 will resort to tears and any other manner of negative attention-seeking that comes into her head. Further, as punishment she will climb back into bed, once at home and loudly sob, scream, or just plain sulks, broods, engage in petulance, insisting that she is just too upset to get up out of bed for food or to do anything else for at least 24-76 hours. However, if she feels that the person hasnt been punished enough with her passive demand for bedside service then she will stretch the time out for a week beyond the time she was confronted. My father brings her food, nervously waits for her next whimper or moan, to run to see if he can cheer her up Hes in emotional distress throughout the whole DRAMA ordeal. I have said to him, ITS WHAT SHES ALWAYS DONE!!! But, my father is going to treat it like a brand new experience each and every time! When that act has seen more performances than all of the plays on and off Broadway, since New York was founded! So, thats WHY he doesnt want anyone upsetting my mother! My father has problems with Blood Pressure and when my mother finally climbs out of the bed and his blood pressure is TOO high she has a list of people she chooses to BLAME for this. His brother or ME. (Others have stopped coming around.)

Personally, I know the routine. I know the consequences for challenging the routine. I have repeatedly assured MY father that I will not participate with her in game playing, when Im helping him do 15 different things and my mother decides to interrupt by standing next to me with her arm hyper extended holding an object because she WILL NOT observe the tiniest courtesy of simply waiting to place whatever nor will she ask. She does this while standing BY the table and wants the item PLACED ON THE TABLE! Instead she will resort to huffing and puffing and finally say, Here! Take This! I am about to fall down! I cant hold this any more! I then say, Then, JUST PUT IT DOWN! OR shell just point to something expecting you to get up and fetch it for her without her ever uttering a word. Now, MY father is SO well trained that hell just break his neck, jumping up to get it!

Well, today was like every other day she was passively trying to block people from either entering or exiting the office with her HUGE rolling walker, for the 1,000,000 time! Its a favorite game of hers to have people WAIT and she WONT move the D*** thing until someone asks her personally to move it! So, today, I just moved it away from the small foyer. She just leered at me.

She will do the exercises requested of her perfectly right up until the time the one on one stops then she begins doing them inaccurately -even with my father and I both re-directing her- until someone else COMES BACK OVER to re-address that. In faux sweetness, she tells them how much she appreciates their help and when they again disappear she starts the, I can do this right routine. all over again! So, that even when my father and I are there reminding her about the appropriate movements she still wants others involved with her non-stop!

I ask her before we leave anywhere, if she needs to go to the bathroom before we go. Just as soon as we are back in the car, have her 75 lb walker folded and lifted back into the car, then she calmly says, I believe I will go to the bathroom after all! So, she gets another opportunity to do the anguished, Sarah Bernhardt walk back into the office. (Which, at home and without an audience, is a quick noise-free sprint.)

After packing her and her 75 lb walker back into the car, she then turns and says, with phoniness that few can imagine, You dont know how much I appreciate you. Well, yes I really DO. Shes been careful to show me that throughout my life! So, when we were stopped at a fast food place, at my fathers request, she actually asks me, Why do you hate me? Im Your mother, you know! After explaining to her that I didnt hate her but went on to identify the numerous behaviors, manipulations, etc that I literally despise about her, I then added that after using people for your own amusement and then telling them you appreciate them is like preparing a crap sandwich for someone and placing their favorite jam on it, I explained. What youre consistently missing is the fact that youre still offering up a Crap Sandwich!

My father called me after they returned home. He sounded distressed again saying, "Your mother has always had trouble with her nerves! You know that!" I responded with,

"Actually, she just has NERVE, Dad!"

 

Oh, well. Its progress, not perfection!

 

Brenda

in my experience, reprogramming oneself is to get on with life. 

 

Women & Men are supposed to be equal.  And where one has a whole lot of flaws, another must be equally faulted ie. in judgement or honesty or other qualities.

 

Things boomerang back.  And that seems to very true when it comes to women.  And although when young, this was avoided.  When one gets older, it appears to be a fundamental truth.  And sometimes it is only from the right kind of relationships in one's life can we see these truths that are a constant.  And see how best to handle this.  Whether over minor trivialities or total chaos.   

 
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Brenda ...

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I was thinking about your post this morning as I climbed out of bed early to get dressed and drive my mother and father to the back doctor. My mother uses every second of every minute of every day- when she isnt sleeping- engaging in DRAMA and/or emotional blackmail. Im the only one who can drive them right, now or trust me I would NOT be doing it! My father is my mothers primary enabler. So, when she engages in passive controlling behaviors-just to inconvenience others- I intervene. However, my father has been conditioned by my mother to know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that if confronted in anyway my mother, 110 times out of 100 will resort to tears and any other manner of negative attention-seeking that comes into her head. Further, as punishment she will climb back into bed, once at home and loudly sob, scream, or just plain sulks, broods, engage in petulance, insisting that she is just too upset to get up out of bed for food or to do anything else for at least 24-76 hours. However, if she feels that the person hasnt been punished enough with her passive demand for bedside service then she will stretch the time out for a week beyond the time she was confronted. My father brings her food, nervously waits for her next whimper or moan, to run to see if he can cheer her up Hes in emotional distress throughout the whole DRAMA ordeal. I have said to him, ITS WHAT SHES ALWAYS DONE!!! But, my father is going to treat it like a brand new experience each and every time! When that act has seen more performances than all of the plays on and off Broadway, since New York was founded! So, thats WHY he doesnt want anyone upsetting my mother! My father has problems with Blood Pressure and when my mother finally climbs out of the bed and his blood pressure is TOO high she has a list of people she chooses to BLAME for this. His brother or ME. (Others have stopped coming around.)

Personally, I know the routine. I know the consequences for challenging the routine. I have repeatedly assured MY father that I will not participate with her in game playing, when Im helping him do 15 different things and my mother decides to interrupt by standing next to me with her arm hyper extended holding an object because she WILL NOT observe the tiniest courtesy of simply waiting to place whatever nor will she ask. She does this while standing BY the table and wants the item PLACED ON THE TABLE! Instead she will resort to huffing and puffing and finally say, Here! Take This! I am about to fall down! I cant hold this any more! I then say, Then, JUST PUT IT DOWN! OR shell just point to something expecting you to get up and fetch it for her without her ever uttering a word. Now, MY father is SO well trained that hell just break his neck, jumping up to get it!

Well, today was like every other day she was passively trying to block people from either entering or exiting the office with her HUGE rolling walker, for the 1,000,000 time! Its a favorite game of hers to have people WAIT and she WONT move the D*** thing until someone asks her personally to move it! So, today, I just moved it away from the small foyer. She just leered at me.

She will do the exercises requested of her perfectly right up until the time the one on one stops then she begins doing them inaccurately -even with my father and I both re-directing her- until someone else COMES BACK OVER to re-address that. In faux sweetness, she tells them how much she appreciates their help and when they again disappear she starts the, I can do this right routine. all over again! So, that even when my father and I are there reminding her about the appropriate movements she still wants others involved with her non-stop!

I ask her before we leave anywhere, if she needs to go to the bathroom before we go. Just as soon as we are back in the car, have her 75 lb walker folded and lifted back into the car, then she calmly says, I believe I will go to the bathroom after all! So, she gets another opportunity to do the anguished, Sarah Bernhardt walk back into the office. (Which, at home and without an audience, is a quick noise-free sprint.)

After packing her and her 75 lb walker back into the car, she then turns and says, with phoniness that few can imagine, You dont know how much I appreciate you. Well, yes I really DO. Shes been careful to show me that throughout my life! So, when we were stopped at a fast food place, at my fathers request, she actually asks me, Why do you hate me? Im Your mother, you know! After explaining to her that I didnt hate her but went on to identify the numerous behaviors, manipulations, etc that I literally despise about her, I then added that after using people for your own amusement and then telling them you appreciate them is like preparing a crap sandwich for someone and placing their favorite jam on it, I explained. What youre consistently missing is the fact that youre still offering up a Crap Sandwich!

My father called me after they returned home. He sounded distressed again saying, "Your mother has always had trouble with her nerves! You know that!" I responded with,

"Actually, she just has NERVE, Dad!"

 

Oh, well. Its progress, not perfection!

 

Brenda

Remember chapter 4 when they talk about roles .. your parents are in a role and it looks like you're in the middle of it as well.  The defiant daughter.

I know that whatever you're doing is just feeding the Pain-Body. 

I'm glad you posted the latest epsiode .. you really do need to let it out so you can deal with it. Like Dr. Phil is always saying .. you can't change something you don't acknowledge.

I know that my mom triggers my Pain-Body and I know that I'm not a victim anymore.  That I'm focusing on changing my pattern which means, I'm resisting which means it's persisting. 

Your mom and mine are drama queens .. they have to have full 100% attention of everyone so they can feel "important".  I also know that not eating right causes my blood sugars to drop and causes me some crazy nasty behaviors.  So I'm working on eating healthy and carrying a snack pack with me so I can eat right.
 
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I shocked myself yesterday!

I realized yesterday that I wanted to make a certain amount of pay each pay period .. and I finally thought ... well that means:  15 hours per week.  And I never thought about actively programming my work time.  DUH!!!  Some times I wonder if it will ever come natrually for me.  However, that's quite alright.  That's what I've been doing all week.  Figuring out how and when I can do things.

Like cutting back the hedges means I can only do it on Sundays - my upper arms need 24 hours rest for swimming. Otherwise, I'm unable to even swim 8 laps. 

And if I really want them done quickly, I'll just pay G $$ to have him cut them down for me.  Then I can focus on other areas of my yard.  And all these other "opportunities" hide behind a wall until I finally step back and ask myself (while I'm journaling) -- "WHAT IS GOING ON or NOT GOING ON?"

Now, I'm figuring out yard, work, & dance into my life.  Dr. Phil says "program my active life style" and that's exactly what I'm doing!
 
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May 31, 2008, 1:55 pm PDT

Sorry....I Just Had To Vent.....

I have to apologize for my last post.

In re-reading it, I recognized that like it or not, I made an agreement to help my dad.

I knew that it was bad and many times it gets worse than just plain awful. However, this bizarre on-going DRAMA is NOT going away. I just have to find a way of reducing any unnecessary contact with my mother. Others besides my father's brother and my very sensative Aunt Betty have just detached from my mother because....well...for reasons that are now obvious. Even my very caring Aunt Betty has reduced her visits to 10 mins. and once a month, if that. I completely understand. The 'Every-Single-Second-DRAMA' is draining, exhausting. There are far better things in life than having that when it isn't absolutely necessary!

I am now following Aunt Betty's lead- to be present when needed and that's it!

 

Brenda

 
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May 31, 2008, 2:25 pm PDT

Oh...As I Was Reading Marcia's Post...

I've finally given myself permission to have a housekeeper come in and help me, every other week!

I just had this OLD lingering belief that if I wasn't WANTING to be June Cleaver that there was something WRONG with me. I had this thing in my head that if I didn't ASPIRE to be 'Suzy Homemaker' that I was 'abnormal' or something.

However, after the encounter I described in the long post I just said, "Well! Screw That! Now, Where did I put that woman's number?"

 

 

Brenda

 
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June 1, 2008, 7:05 am PDT

Brenda - you had to vent to get to this place

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I have to apologize for my last post.

In re-reading it, I recognized that like it or not, I made an agreement to help my dad.

I knew that it was bad and many times it gets worse than just plain awful. However, this bizarre on-going DRAMA is NOT going away. I just have to find a way of reducing any unnecessary contact with my mother. Others besides my father's brother and my very sensative Aunt Betty have just detached from my mother because....well...for reasons that are now obvious. Even my very caring Aunt Betty has reduced her visits to 10 mins. and once a month, if that. I completely understand. The 'Every-Single-Second-DRAMA' is draining, exhausting. There are far better things in life than having that when it isn't absolutely necessary!

I am now following Aunt Betty's lead- to be present when needed and that's it!

 

Brenda

One of the very first things I learned from SELF MATTERS was I had to "vent" - to acknowledge what I was saying and feeling so that I could do differently.  Yep, his famous words:  YOU CAN'T CHANGE WHAT YOU WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE.

My mom's drama isn't a lot anymore. I'm finding that she gets on my nerves when she's tired and needs to go home and rest. 

And now that you've vent it out loud and it's not a secret .. you've told the whole world haven't you? ... you can now move on and pass this. 

Spending 10 minutes isn't so hard to do.  I'm working on less time with my mom as well. I can take her in spurts ... and with me "acknowledging" to the world that my mom gets this way when she's tired .. I'm going to cut way back on our outtings.  Like she says .. she's 76 years old now and she's not a spring chicken anymore. 

Thanks Brenda, I'm so glad you posted your words!  It's helped me to say out loud what I've been thinking quietly about. 
 
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YOU GOGIRL!!!

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I've finally given myself permission to have a housekeeper come in and help me, every other week!

I just had this OLD lingering belief that if I wasn't WANTING to be June Cleaver that there was something WRONG with me. I had this thing in my head that if I didn't ASPIRE to be 'Suzy Homemaker' that I was 'abnormal' or something.

However, after the encounter I described in the long post I just said, "Well! Screw That! Now, Where did I put that woman's number?"

 

 

Brenda

I can't wait to hear the stories you come up from bringing a housekeeper into your home.  Are you going to clean your home first?   I've known people who clean for a living and they all said that happens at first.  The people at first feel uncomfortable letting people into their homes .. so they do other stuff like dusting down the walls, etc.  until the folks finally just leave the house to them. 
 
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June 1, 2008, 10:22 am PDT

help!!

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I can't wait to hear the stories you come up from bringing a housekeeper into your home.  Are you going to clean your home first?   I've known people who clean for a living and they all said that happens at first.  The people at first feel uncomfortable letting people into their homes .. so they do other stuff like dusting down the walls, etc.  until the folks finally just leave the house to them. 

Hi; I have been reading  A New Earth and I am having difficulty grasping the concepts. Well; Allright I am totally confused. I tried to log onto Oprah's teleclass but her website wouldnt let me in.

There are some things I am getting but Having a hard time understanding what the pain body is?

I totally get living in the now and all but what is this book really about? Is God now dividing the earth into the good and the bad? Does it have anything to do with God?

 

 
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